Zos adding the ability to become zombie or dwarven

BabeestorGor · January 2016

No.

DaniAngione wrote: »

This has to be the worst poll since "Flying mounts?"

I'd put this poll in a class of its own.
Although you couldn't become one there have been werebears and wereboars in previous games and other werecreatures have been mentioned in lore but 1 flea-ridden pest is enough for me.

CaptainObvious · January 2016

basdisco wrote: »

A zombie wouldn't be able to quest, talk or move consciously, so no. And the Dwemer have long been extinct, so another no.

They could quest for brains. Depending on who's logged on though, there may not be any objectives.

WhiteCoatSyndrome · January 2016

No.

Isn't there already a Draugr polymorph in the Crown Store?

Steampunk cybernetics just doesn't enthuse me.

Xendyn · January 2016

No.

It's Dwemer and it's a race not a disease.
As for zombies, well if you want to throw up on everyone, there's a trophy you can do that with.

Gidorick · January 2016

Zomibes would be fun... dwarven... not so much.

Cazzy · January 2016

No.

attackjet wrote: »

Cazzy wrote: »

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Dwemer - just thought I'd link the info about Dwemer. You obviously mean Dwemer constructs rather than dwarves themselves (they don't exist!) - but I'd be interested to know what you had in mind, OP

I think having a quest line where some dudes turn you into a dwemer (sorry I thought it was dwarven) and turn you legs and arm into like dwemer parts to like defeat some ultimate dwemer dude or something along those lines. This is still a thought concept to me and sorry guys......

No eta

I think you're still confused about who the dwarves were

srfrogg23 · January 2016

Not sure.

What, eh..., what kind of zombies are we talking about here? "Night of the living dead" or "Idle hands"? The first would really suck to play as but the 2nd could be kind of interesting.

And aren't dwarves, or dwemer, just an extinct sub-species of elves? I'm trying to figure out how you could turn your character into a dwarf like a vampire or werewolf. What would a khajit dwarf look like?

Acrolas · January 2016

No.

They could give you an option to be cultists, but that's what the forums are for.

troner2 · January 2016

No.

Zorrashi wrote: »

Since when is "dwarven" an affliction or disease?

Made me chuckle... passives would suck though...decrease run speed by 25%....Increase beard growth by 1000%

Forestd16b14_ESO · January 2016

No.

By Dwarf I assume you mean like one of the orcs of the Wrothgar public dungeon were the half mer and half "thing" (best way to describe those things).

As for zombies what could you possible do zombie in TES lore are mindless slaves and that's the best case worst case you're just a mindless rotting meat bag eating flesh.

attackjet · January 2016

I like twurtles

I don't get why everyone is hating on this so much. Its just an idea and I am fairly new to the game. Maybe not a zombie or dwemer but something new and cool that will add to the game. I don't follow lore so I don't know what is "not allowed" but I really do want to hear some ideas people have and what people would like to see.

Cazzy · January 2016

No.

attackjet wrote: »

I don't get why everyone is hating on this so much. Its just an idea and I am fairly new to the game. Maybe not a zombie or dwemer but something new and cool that will add to the game. I don't follow lore so I don't know what is "not allowed" but I really do want to hear some ideas people have and what people would like to see.

The game has to follow certain "strict" lore because the Elder Scrolls has established such a rich history and has been going since 1994. That's over 20 years of building a world and it's histories. To add anything new is risky and would have to work with lore that already exists and would need to be something that would be received well. Lots of people don't want ZoS to add *new* stuff because they feel that belongs in the long-running single player campaigns.

Your suggestions haven't been well liked because they simply don't make sense. It would be like adding Robots and Aliens to Lord of the Rings.

A lot of us have been expecting new skill lines with upcoming DLC but that recently has been quashed. So nearly everybody is more focused on what we can realistically expect with Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood.

Really, there isn't anything (that I know of) that could be similar to Vampire and Werewolf skills.

Also, a lot of people like the mystery behind the Dwemer disappearance. Maybe future games will offer more insight to their disappearance, but for now we'll have to make do with the lorebooks and theories

Gidorick · January 2016

Hey @attackjet , I'm loving the passion you're bringing to this... You might really enjoy learning about ESO Dwarves... AKA... the Dwemer. Their name means "Deep Ones" or "Profound People". They're not tiny, short or fat like other Dwarves. They're generally the size of all other races. I think the reason they're called Dwarves is because they were underground dwelling.

Here is a great video about them...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK-WXrOhoHU

If you want to learn more about TES check out the other TES videos from Shoddy Cast. They are pretty amazing and entertaining videos.

One think you'll learn is that there are MANY of us who take TES lore very seriously and treat it as seriously as actual history or religion (in the context of Tamriel, of course). So when you hear things like "NO FLYING MOUNTS!!!" Many times there's great lore reasons for these cries, like with the Dwemer. Sometimes there isn't, like with capes.

JD2013 · January 2016

Gidorick wrote: »

Hey @attackjet , I'm loving the passion you're bringing to this... You might really enjoy learning about ESO Dwarves... AKA... the Dwemer. Their name means "Deep Ones" or "Profound People". They're not tiny, short or fat like other Dwarves. They're generally the size of all other races. I think the reason they're called Dwarves is because they were underground dwelling.

Here is a great video about them...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK-WXrOhoHU

If you want to learn more about TES check out the other TES videos from Shoddy Cast. They are pretty amazing and entertaining videos.

One think you'll learn is that there are MANY of us who take TES lore very seriously and treat it as seriously as actual history or religion (in the context of Tamriel, of course). So when you hear things like "NO FLYING MOUNTS!!!" Many times there's great lore reasons for these cries, like with the Dwemer. Sometimes there isn't, like with capes.

Great explanation.

TES videos from Shoddy Cast are awesome videos to learn more about lore.

And I am DEFINITELY more serious about ES lore than religion

Gidorick · January 2016

JD2013 wrote: »

And I am DEFINITELY more serious about ES lore than religion

I have to say I'm just as serious about the Mythos of my religion... Like the priest Melchizedek, the Nephalem, Leviathan & Behemoth... good stuff.

But back to ESO! If we talk too much about real-world stuff we will incur the wrath of the mods!

attackjet · January 2016

I like twurtles

Thank you guys for really explaining this to me. I think a lot of people along with me have a deep passion for this game, not only because of the graphics and the fact that it is really good (though something need tweeking) but also because this game has some serious lore fans who know what they are talking about with the history of the game. I think the devs of this game shouldn't give up on it and should really pay attention to what people have to say about it. Though sometimes (even thought I like PvP a lot) the PvP people take the smallest little glitch and make it seem like the sky is falling and that zos diosnt care about what the community thinks of the game at all, I still think PvP is very good it just needs some battlegrounds and arenas (and dueling of course). But I wish pve was a bit more interactive, I feel like some of the quest are more tedious than fun, not all of them of course, but some.

Gidorick · January 2016

attackjet wrote: »

But I wish pve was a bit more interactive, I feel like some of the quest are more tedious than fun, not all of them of course, but some.

I can agree with this. I have long wished that there were enough to do in ESO to keep us entertained outside of PVE and PVP... we need the ability to just... BE in the world. I would love it if there were enough to do in towns that we could just loose ourselves in doing odd jobs around town, playing games in the inns, reading in the mages guild, sparring the in the fighters guild... etc.

attackjet · January 2016

I like twurtles

@Gidorick so true I couldn't have said it better, like once you are bored with running around and stuff you can just go to a town and relax and talk to people and just lay low. The game kinda lacks in this

though I do like going to town and seeing all the high level peoples armor, some of it looks amazing +_+ but I wish they would add more

Gidorick · January 2016

attackjet wrote: »

@Gidorick so true I couldn't have said it better, like once you are bored with running around and stuff you can just go to a town and relax and talk to people and just lay low. The game kinda lacks in this though I do like going to town and seeing all the high level peoples armor, some of it looks amazing +_+ but I wish they would add more

You know what I did once I got "bored"?

I came on the forums... and... well... this happened:

Gidorick wrote: »

Below is a collection of some of the ideas I have posted on this forum. I’ve gathered them into categories for ease of discovery. Beyond that, the organization is haphazard and random. If I post any new ideas (lol, who am I kidding... IF. ) I will update this thread.

Environmental Concepts:
Immersive Darkness Concept

Environmental Immersion Features that should be added to future zones

Hopefully someday we will travel all of Nirn!

Zoning logic

Water Overhaul Suggestion

ESO Contextual Fog Concept

Environment & Weather Systems Overhaul Concept

Day Length Adjustment & Holiday Implementation Concept

Brutality Pack Concept

Random Oblivion Oubliette Concept

Advanced Inns and Tavern concept

UI Concepts:
Exhaled Breath Condensate

ESO Advanced Mapping Concept

Remove Zone Chat and do the following

De-Mystical Mounts - A Crown Store Concept

Informative Loading Screens Concept

Game Systems:
Advanced Speechcraft Expansion Concept

Remove Vet & Raise Level Cap Concept

Invulnerable NPC Danger Awareness Concept

ESO Character Offspring: A Phylogenetics Concept

Mount Specific Racial Riding Bonuses Concept

Advanced Mounts Overhaul Concept

Tangible Mounts Advanced Concept

Siege Weapon Concept: War Mounts

Let the mobs roam FREE!!!!

Player Driven Treasure Hunting Concept

Advanced Lockpicking Concept/Suggestion

Instigation Concept for Justice System and PvP

Another Housing Suggestion: A 3 Phase Release Plan

Player created content - Suggestion for the future of ESO

Quest Desertion - Suggestion for a Justice System Addition

In Game ZOS Developer Events - Concept

Skooma Concept/Suggestion

Merchant Specific Perk Suggestion

ESO mobile app

Dead Horse? Nope... Target Dummy

ESO Needs an Auction Horse

Khajiit and Dunmer Mount Sellers Concept

A guard should NOT be invincible, but THE guard should be.

Champion Points Catch Up Mechanic

End Game Fighters & Mages Guild Questing Concepts

Downward Scaling of players to match Zone levels

Cadwell's Redux - An End Game Concept

Make Vet Ranks levels

Courier's Guild Mechanics, Skills, & Quests

Perpetual Independent End Game Level Progression

Justice System Addition - Public Indecency

Player Home Personal Crafting Stations

Worship in Tamriel: an ESO Religion Concept

Narcotic Addiction Concept

Player Options & Items and Systems:
Summonable Beast Merchants and Banker Concept

Hirable NPC Companion concept

ESO Tailor: A New Merchant and Skill Concept

ESO Furrier, A Pet Shop Concept

Portable Wayshrine Pieces

Allow Multiple Pets Followers

More Bags and Encumbrance: Crown Store Concepts

Collecting ears...

The need for functional torches

Pay off the Guards!: Crown Store Items Concept

Monetization of Character Creation Concept

The Barber Shop

Expanded Rested Bonus Concept

Training Dummies Concept

CP Active Passive Bar & CP Burn Concept

Race Sub-Culture Concept

Play-as-Creatures Concept

Birthsign Mechanic Concept

Immersive (battle) Pets Concept

Expanded Pledge of Mara: A Marriage Concept

Crown Store/ ESO+ Centric Concepts:
ESO+ Subscription Benefits Suggestions

Crown Store Costumed Disguises Bundles Concept

split up Costume Bundles in the Crown Store

In Game Crown Store Integration Concept

Immersive Crown Store Concept

Portable Dyes

Silly odds and ends:
In-Game Headnetch

Serious Crown Store Suggestion... but with levity!

Suggestions for an eventual Khajiit-centric update

Concept for a future Argonian Centric update

Miniatures of our characters!

ListerJMC · January 2016

No.

attackjet wrote: »

Thank you guys for really explaining this to me. I think a lot of people along with me have a deep passion for this game, not only because of the graphics and the fact that it is really good (though something need tweeking) but also because this game has some serious lore fans who know what they are talking about with the history of the game. I think the devs of this game shouldn't give up on it and should really pay attention to what people have to say about it. Though sometimes (even thought I like PvP a lot) the PvP people take the smallest little glitch and make it seem like the sky is falling and that zos diosnt care about what the community thinks of the game at all, I still think PvP is very good it just needs some battlegrounds and arenas (and dueling of course). But I wish pve was a bit more interactive, I feel like some of the quest are more tedious than fun, not all of them of course, but some.

Well I mean glitches are a fixture of the Elder Scrolls series, so I'm not even inclined to say they're lore-breaking

.

I'm sure I've seen a video of a dev talking about pve interactivity, and trying to find the right balance between people having more freedom in the world and making sure people interacting with things doesn't slow down the game too much. I believe the example was of that player who dropped 2,500 cheese wheels down a mountain in Skyrim, the dev didn't want stuff like that crashing the game for other players but he wants the world to feel more interactive and fun

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Edit: It was 2,500 cheese wheels. https://youtube.com/watch?v=fCrhDamN82k

attackjet · January 2016

I like twurtles

Woah so much good stuff. I am at work right now so it might take me a couple hours to fully read it all and give my opinions on the best ones , but you have some REALLY good ideas. Never thought about mob free roam but that would be a really good idea. Is dueling in there?

Zinaroth · January 2016

It's 3 AM and I don't even...

Alucardo wrote: »

Your Zombie transformation would have two skills

- Slow heavy attack
- Vomit

Sounds like this one could be a winner

Still better than being a Templar.

Gidorick · January 2016

ListerJMC wrote: »

I'm sure I've seen a video of a dev talking about pve interactivity, and trying to find the right balance between people having more freedom in the world and making sure people interacting with things doesn't slow down the game too much. I believe the example was of that player who dropped 1,000 cheese rolls down a mountain in Skyrim, the dev didn't want stuff like that crashing the game for other players but he wants the world to feel more interactive and fun .

These devs seem out of touch sometimes. I don't think anyone has ever asked to be able to drop all their things in the world and have other players see them and have them have individual physics. The kinds of things we would like are...

Sitable chairs
Layable beds
Climbable ladders
Picking up items we see in the world (this has actually been improved GREATLY since initial launch)

We're not asking for cheese waterfalls. If they really used that as an example they are either being dramatic or they don't know what we mean by "interactivity".

attackjet · January 2016

I like twurtles

Hirable NPC's sounds really cool. I think more interactive NPCs to battle on your side, and the ability to have more than one. What about mounts? I saw another post about and someone said a spider deemed mount and I thought that would be really cool. And what about being able to go underneath water??? Not a big deal, would be cool though. I think the champion point system in non vet PvP has to go... People are just way too overpower. With the vet ranks being regular levels I think that is a really good idea, though would need some tweeking to pvp .

attackjet · January 2016

I like twurtles

^spider dwemer mount*

starkerealm · January 2016

No.

Xendyn wrote: »

It's Dwemer and it's a race not a disease.
As for zombies, well if you want to throw up on everyone, there's a trophy you can do that with.

Or roll a DK so you can vomit fire.

starkerealm · January 2016

No.

Gidorick wrote: »

Hey @attackjet , I'm loving the passion you're bringing to this... You might really enjoy learning about ESO Dwarves... AKA... the Dwemer. Their name means "Deep Ones" or "Profound People". They're not tiny, short or fat like other Dwarves. They're generally the size of all other races. I think the reason they're called Dwarves is because they were underground dwelling.

IIRC, the actual name Dwemer meant deep elves. The name Dwarves is a mistranslation of their name. If you want to slot them into a more conventional fantasy role, and you know D&D, the best description for them would be steampunk Drow, without the spider fetish and infighting, while being slightly friendlier.

ListerJMC · January 2016

No.

Gidorick wrote: »

ListerJMC wrote: »

I'm sure I've seen a video of a dev talking about pve interactivity, and trying to find the right balance between people having more freedom in the world and making sure people interacting with things doesn't slow down the game too much. I believe the example was of that player who dropped 1,000 cheese rolls down a mountain in Skyrim, the dev didn't want stuff like that crashing the game for other players but he wants the world to feel more interactive and fun .

These devs seem out of touch sometimes. I don't think anyone has ever asked to be able to drop all their things in the world and have other players see them and have them have individual physics. The kinds of things we would like are...

Sitable chairs
Layable beds
Climbable ladders
Picking up items we see in the world (this has actually been improved GREATLY since initial launch)

We're not asking for cheese waterfalls. If they really used that as an example they are either being dramatic or they don't know what we mean by "interactivity".

I honestly can't find the video again where I saw that, I'm pretty sure it was exclusively referring to picking up objects though. That's why there isn't a "drop" feature on items.

Gidorick · January 2016

starkerealm wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

Hey @attackjet , I'm loving the passion you're bringing to this... You might really enjoy learning about ESO Dwarves... AKA... the Dwemer. Their name means "Deep Ones" or "Profound People". They're not tiny, short or fat like other Dwarves. They're generally the size of all other races. I think the reason they're called Dwarves is because they were underground dwelling.

IIRC, the actual name Dwemer meant deep elves. The name Dwarves is a mistranslation of their name. If you want to slot them into a more conventional fantasy role, and you know D&D, the best description for them would be steampunk Drow, without the spider fetish and infighting, while being slightly friendlier.

I always considered the Dunmer to be the closest TES race to the Drow.

And in Aldmeri "Mer" means "Ones, People, or Folk"... it doesn't translate to "elves" directly but contextually... yea... elves.

Gidorick · January 2016

ListerJMC wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

ListerJMC wrote: »

I'm sure I've seen a video of a dev talking about pve interactivity, and trying to find the right balance between people having more freedom in the world and making sure people interacting with things doesn't slow down the game too much. I believe the example was of that player who dropped 1,000 cheese rolls down a mountain in Skyrim, the dev didn't want stuff like that crashing the game for other players but he wants the world to feel more interactive and fun .

These devs seem out of touch sometimes. I don't think anyone has ever asked to be able to drop all their things in the world and have other players see them and have them have individual physics. The kinds of things we would like are...

Sitable chairs
Layable beds
Climbable ladders
Picking up items we see in the world (this has actually been improved GREATLY since initial launch)

We're not asking for cheese waterfalls. If they really used that as an example they are either being dramatic or they don't know what we mean by "interactivity".

I honestly can't find the video again where I saw that, I'm pretty sure it was exclusively referring to picking up objects though. That's why there isn't a "drop" feature on items.

I'm comfortable saying that I'm one of the more... erm... demanding ESO players. I think I feel like there is a LOT more missing from this game than the average ESO player. I mean I have made several posts and a thread about the fact that there the moon Secunda doesn't reflect on the surface of the water:

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/150755/wait-a-secunda-whats-with-this-moon-logic/p1

That REALLY bothers me... but even I don't expect players to be able to drop stuff in world.. imagine the mess!!!