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Hello! I've been putting some thought into how to make fishing more rewarding and a game in itself. Please feel free to add ideas!


Fishing Skill line

XP in this skill line will be gained through fishing. The rarity of the fish determines the XP gained


EQUIPMENT:

Note: All crafted equipment is fully customizable with all racial styles.

– Craftable Fishing poles –Not enchantable – no need to introduce new runes but can be upgraded up to Legendary using the existing wood tempers. Each upgrade slightly improves chance of rare fish and fishing speed. (If you have no need to catch rare fish, stick with the basic white pole.) – Note – this would not go into your weapon slot. This item would go into a new inventory slot specifically for fishing poles and filet knives.
- Epic and Legendary poles required to catch Epic and Legendary fish

Craftable Filet knives – Increased chances of perfect roe or other unique ingredients (insert ideas for new ingredients!) – Note – this would not go into your weapon slot. This item would go into a new inventory slot specifically for fishing poles and Filet knives.
- Epic and Legendary filet knives required to filet Epic and Legendary fish

Craftable Fishermans gear (light armor 3 piece set) – Vest, Waders, and hat.
​2 pieces – Fishing speed increased
​3 pieces – Chance for 2 fish on one hook (also possible to nab 2 rares on one hook!)


SKILLS:

Note – all skills are “Passive skills” – no active skills (and no hotbar!) would be added

Skill line 1 – Gunny Master–
• Sack Frequency - Improves the drop rate for gunny sacks
• Valuable Sacks - Improves the loot table for gunny sacks (also adds a very small chance to get unique fishing gear that cannot be obtained from crafting – for increased chances read further)
- With this skill, Gunny Sacks now drop Skyshards! (this is in order to make extra room for all of these new skills). There will be a cap on the number of Skyshards you can obtain. The exact number would be somewhere around the number needed to get all skills in the fishing line.


Skill line 2 – Experienced fisherman
• Choosy Fisherman- Improves the catch rate for rare fish.
• Speed Caster- Increase the speed of fishing from the time of cast to hook
• Faultless– longer time given to “catch” the fish once it is hooked
• Fishing Hole Sense – Special fishing holes now appear. These are only visible to fisherman with this skill. These holes are required for a chance to catch the new Epic and Legendary fish


Skill line 3 – Filleting Expertise
• Roe Extraction- Improves chances for perfect roe
• Roe Connoisseur - Small chance for proc - double perfect roe!
• Master Filleter – Ability to filet Epic and Legendary fish


Skill Line 4 – Master Baiter
• Bait finder - Improves the drop rate of all forms of bait (through gathering and fishing)
• Premium Baiter - Using Special bait (chub, minnows, etc), the fisherman can now catch epic and legendary fish!
- Must be used in conjunction with the “Fishing hole sense” skill, as well as Epic/Legendary poles in order to catch Epic and Legendary fish.
- These new fish are NOT needed for master angler achievement


Epic (purple) fish – when fileted (must have “Master Fileter” skill line) - moderate chance for gunny sacks and rare fish (up to blue) inside of their bellies. (“Sack Frequency” and “Choosy fisherman” skill lines increase the chances for these drops)

Legendary (gold) fish – when caught do not automatically go in your inventory. You have to fight them first! These would be similar in strength to a world boss (not a wrothgar world boss!). When killed, These new Legendary fish bosses have a chance to drop unique non-craftable fishing gear (hats, vests, waders) – presumably from the last fisherman that attempted to catch this particular fish! Keep in mind that this fish is loot-able only to the fisherman, however others can help you take the fish down.

• When fileted (must have “Master Fileter” skill line) - good chance for perfect roe, gunny sacks and multiple rare fish (up to Epic) inside of their bellies. (“Sack Frequency” and “Choosy fisherman” skill lines increase the chances for these drops)

• There is also a possibility for exclusive combat gear to drop, as these formidable fish have no qualms about their meals. Warriors taste the same as fisherman. (adding this would be a major incentive to everyone to take up the fishing skill line)
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  • Gidorick
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    Crafting fishing poles! Finally someone else wants this! Oh happy day! Add in a feature where we are able to fish anywhere in any water and I'm SOLD!

    eh, I'm sold anyway +1 agree from me.
    Edited by Gidorick on December 16, 2015 3:59AM
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  • Flynch
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    I can definitely get behind this. +1 from me too!
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  • Spacemonkey
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    Umm, i'd rather have fish more valuable - and fishing more fun - than a new thing to grind.

    (maybe a khajiit passive that allows you to consume raw fishies without fileting, for short duration bonuses) :smile:


    fish can be 'fileted' (harvested) for more than just food mats. (scales could be harvested for blacksmithing and clothing) -
    And figure out a short mini game for fishing that involves more than just finding a water hole and waiting for the bait to bob.
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  • Asherons_Call
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    Spacemonkey wrote: »
    Umm, i'd rather have fish more valuable - and fishing more fun - than a new thing to grind.

    (maybe a khajiit passive that allows you to consume raw fishies without fileting, for short duration bonuses) :smile:


    fish can be 'fileted' (harvested) for more than just food mats. (scales could be harvested for blacksmithing and clothing) -
    And figure out a short mini game for fishing that involves more than just finding a water hole and waiting for the bait to bob.

    It's not a grind if it's fun! Although everyone is different so I understand where you're coming from.

    I love your idea for filleting! Possibly add a chance to get fish scales to craft special armor (similar to the malachite/glass mechanic)
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  • ajwest927
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    I like that idea
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  • MissBizz
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    I love fishing. +1

    I'm happy @Gidorick saw this. Had to double check the OP twice to make sure it wasn't gidorick lol
    Edited by MissBizz on December 16, 2015 1:51AM
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    Another reason to level my Woodworking; I like it!
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    MissBizz wrote: »
    I love fishing. +1

    I'm happy @Gidorick saw this. Had to double check the OP twice to make sure it wasn't gidorick lol

    Is he an advocate of fishing? We need all we can get! I'll have to check out some of his posts. I think what I am going to do is start consolidating ideas here. Hopefully someone with some pull will see it and say, wow those ideas might actually work!

    If even a few of these ideas got serious ZOS consideration I would be overjoyed. If probably spend more time fishing than questing! Wait I think I already do that :)
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    MrDerrikk wrote: »
    Another reason to level my Woodworking; I like it!

    Exactly. Woodworking is a skill that barely gets used compared to cloth and smithing. We need to use all of this ruby ash that we're stockpiling :)
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    Asherons_Call wrote: »
    MrDerrikk wrote: »
    Another reason to level my Woodworking; I like it!

    Exactly. Woodworking is a skill that barely gets used compared to cloth and smithing. We need to use all of this ruby ash that we're stockpiling :)

    It has so much less traits as well, in that I've almost got 8 traits in everything, when I'm only halfway through the other two. Another reason for my skills to be sought after would be wonderful. :D
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    Asherons_Call wrote: »
    MissBizz wrote: »
    I love fishing. +1

    I'm happy @Gidorick saw this. Had to double check the OP twice to make sure it wasn't gidorick lol

    Is he an advocate of fishing? We need all we can get! I'll have to check out some of his posts. I think what I am going to do is start consolidating ideas here. Hopefully someone with some pull will see it and say, wow those ideas might actually work!

    If even a few of these ideas got serious ZOS consideration I would be overjoyed. If probably spend more time fishing than questing! Wait I think I already do that :)

    hehe... well... no. I'm not exactly an advocate for fishing. I'd say I'm an advocate for ZOS adding fun and functionality to ESO.

    This MMO is so full of promise but at every corner things were done simply or shortcuts were taken. I understand about deadlines and work schedules but in an MMO there is always the future possibility of change! The game continues to grow and I would love to see it grow into a broad, encompassing experience where players are the masters of their own narrative and we can adventure in a living, breathing, vibrant Tamriel.

    As such, I have suggested a right many things on this forum, which I have compiled in my Concept Repository. Link here: Gidorick's Concept Repository

    and a copy of the current contents of the repository here:
    Gidorick wrote: »
    Below is a collection of some of the ideas I have posted on this forum. I’ve gathered them into categories for ease of discovery. Beyond that, the organization is haphazard and random. If I post any new ideas (lol, who am I kidding... IF. :lol: ) I will update this thread.

    Environmental Concepts:
    UI Concepts:
    Game Systems:
    Player Options & Items and Systems:
    Crown Store/ ESO+ Centric Concepts:
    Silly odds and ends:

    I hope your idea gets seen by ZOS too! It would really make a great addition to ESO. Please post any other ideas you have. I enjoyed your thoughts. Two other posters that have had some amazing ideas are @tinythinker & @TheShadowScout . Take a look at @tinythinker 's profile page to check out some of his ideas and just keep an eye out for @TheShadowScout as he prefers to post his ideas as comments in threads. I hope with reckless abandon that ZOS is listening to our ideas and they are looking to make ESO the penultimate MMO and TES title... but the realist in me knows better. :confused:

    My honest advice for posting your thoughts and ideas: Do so because you want to share some cool "what-ifs" with those who will appreciate it and try not to let what isn't in ESO ruin what is. :wink:

    Edited by Gidorick on December 16, 2015 8:00AM
    What ESO really needs is an Auction Horse.
    That's right... Horse.
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  • damtotb16_ESO
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    I hate fishing but would like to love it!
    +1
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  • PrinceBoru
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    Yeah fishing needs some attention.
    It ain't easy being green.
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    I made a post about this last week and people crushed my idea in two seconds. I guess the community here is bipolar.

    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/234149/idea-fishing-skill-line#latest
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  • ChuckyPayne
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    Very detailed idea. I like it. +1.
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    MaKTaiL wrote: »
    I made a post about this last week and people crushed my idea in two seconds. I guess the community here is bipolar.

    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/234149/idea-fishing-skill-line#latest

    LOL @MaKTaiL ... it works that way sometimes.

    Of course @Unsent.Soul and @Pchela didn't comment on this thread... and those were the only two people who commented on your thread. I hate to say it but visibility is key. That's why I hate the bumping rules on this forum. There are many of my concepts that get buried because people don't comment. If I was the last comment, I can't make another comment or else I'll get busted for bumping. So concepts get buried and people just don't see them.
    What ESO really needs is an Auction Horse.
    That's right... Horse.
    Click HERE to discuss.

    Want more crazy ideas? Check out my Concept Repository!
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  • Asherons_Call
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    MaKTaiL wrote: »
    I made a post about this last week and people crushed my idea in two seconds. I guess the community here is bipolar.

    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/234149/idea-fishing-skill-line#latest

    I'm sorry to hear that Mak. I didn't notice your post either or I would have made a positive comment. I've noticed that the timing of the post can have a huge impact on who sees it. It's very much a mini game in itself as you are playing with RNG :)

    After reading it, it appears we are on the same wavelength on a couple of points, especially with the loot tables on gunny sacks. I also absolutely love your idea about fishing writs! This never crossed my mind but it could be implemented in the current system perfectly.

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    Gidorick wrote: »
    Asherons_Call wrote: »
    MissBizz wrote: »
    I love fishing. +1

    I'm happy @Gidorick saw this. Had to double check the OP twice to make sure it wasn't gidorick lol

    Is he an advocate of fishing? We need all we can get! I'll have to check out some of his posts. I think what I am going to do is start consolidating ideas here. Hopefully someone with some pull will see it and say, wow those ideas might actually work!

    If even a few of these ideas got serious ZOS consideration I would be overjoyed. If probably spend more time fishing than questing! Wait I think I already do that :)

    hehe... well... no. I'm not exactly an advocate for fishing. I'd say I'm an advocate for ZOS adding fun and functionality to ESO.

    This MMO is so full of promise but at every corner things were done simply or shortcuts were taken. I understand about deadlines and work schedules but in an MMO there is always the future possibility of change! The game continues to grow and I would love to see it grow into a broad, encompassing experience where players are the masters of their own narrative and we can adventure in a living, breathing, vibrant Tamriel.

    As such, I have suggested a right many things on this forum, which I have compiled in my Concept Repository. Link here: Gidorick's Concept Repository

    and a copy of the current contents of the repository here:
    Gidorick wrote: »
    Below is a collection of some of the ideas I have posted on this forum. I’ve gathered them into categories for ease of discovery. Beyond that, the organization is haphazard and random. If I post any new ideas (lol, who am I kidding... IF. :lol: ) I will update this thread.

    Environmental Concepts:
    UI Concepts:
    Game Systems:
    Player Options & Items and Systems:
    Crown Store/ ESO+ Centric Concepts:
    Silly odds and ends:

    I hope your idea gets seen by ZOS too! It would really make a great addition to ESO. Please post any other ideas you have. I enjoyed your thoughts. Two other posters that have had some amazing ideas are @tinythinker & @TheShadowScout . Take a look at @tinythinker 's profile page to check out some of his ideas and just keep an eye out for @TheShadowScout as he prefers to post his ideas as comments in threads. I hope with reckless abandon that ZOS is listening to our ideas and they are looking to make ESO the penultimate MMO and TES title... but the realist in me knows better. :confused:

    My honest advice for posting your thoughts and ideas: Do so because you want to share some cool "what-ifs" with those who will appreciate it and try not to let what isn't in ESO ruin what is. :wink:

    Wow thank you!! This gives me a lot of good material to read. (While at work) :)
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    Ok that's it. In the spirit of nerfember I withdraw all ideas on fishing skill line. Nerf fishing! Way overpowered
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    stopped reading at dropping skyshards....
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    Artjuh90 wrote: »
    stopped reading at dropping skyshards....

    So you would be ok with using your existing skill points to pay for these skills? Just trying to find a balance if they did indeed add several new skills
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    Asherons_Call wrote: »
    Artjuh90 wrote: »
    stopped reading at dropping skyshards....

    So you would be ok with using your existing skill points to pay for these skills? Just trying to find a balance if they did indeed add several new skills

    yes i would, it is not that skillpoints are hard to come by.
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    I think getting Skyhards in Gunny Sacks would be alright... but not so many that it'll completely fill up the Fishing Skill line. like... 4 max.
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    Gidorick wrote: »
    I think getting Skyhards in Gunny Sacks would be alright... but not so many that it'll completely fill up the Fishing Skill line. like... 4 max.
    Naw, I have a better idea for that (maybe) @Gidorick. See my revised version of the OP's proposal in my comment above.
    Edited by tinythinker on December 16, 2015 8:54PM
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    Asherons_Call wrote: »
    Hello! I've been putting some thought into how to make fishing more rewarding and a game in itself. Please feel free to add ideas!




    Skill Line 4 – Master Baiter
    • Bait finder - Improves the drop rate of all forms of bait (through gathering and fishing)
    • Premium Baiter - Using Special bait (chub, minnows, etc), the fisherman can now catch epic and legendary fish!
    - Must be used in conjunction with the “Fishing hole sense” skill, as well as Epic/Legendary poles in order to catch Epic and Legendary fish.
    - These new fish are NOT needed for master angler achievement



    I would suggest for the less "chuckle" effect that skill line #4 be "Bait Master"
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    gw2only1b14_ESO wrote: »
    Asherons_Call wrote: »
    Hello! I've been putting some thought into how to make fishing more rewarding and a game in itself. Please feel free to add ideas!




    Skill Line 4 – Master Baiter
    • Bait finder - Improves the drop rate of all forms of bait (through gathering and fishing)
    • Premium Baiter - Using Special bait (chub, minnows, etc), the fisherman can now catch epic and legendary fish!
    - Must be used in conjunction with the “Fishing hole sense” skill, as well as Epic/Legendary poles in order to catch Epic and Legendary fish.
    - These new fish are NOT needed for master angler achievement



    I would suggest for the less "chuckle" effect that skill line #4 be "Bait Master"

    Haha I was wondering when someone would call me out on that one!
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    Asherons_Call wrote: »
    Hello! I've been putting some thought into how to make fishing more rewarding and a game in itself. Please feel free to add ideas!


    Fishing Skill line

    XP in this skill line will be gained through fishing. The rarity of the fish determines the XP gained


    EQUIPMENT:

    Note: All crafted equipment is fully customizable with all racial styles.

    – Craftable Fishing poles –Not enchantable – no need to introduce new runes but can be upgraded up to Legendary using the existing wood tempers. Each upgrade slightly improves chance of rare fish and fishing speed. (If you have no need to catch rare fish, stick with the basic white pole.) – Note – this would not go into your weapon slot. This item would go into a new inventory slot specifically for fishing poles and filet knives.
    - Epic and Legendary poles required to catch Epic and Legendary fish

    Craftable Filet knives – Increased chances of perfect roe or other unique ingredients (insert ideas for new ingredients!) – Note – this would not go into your weapon slot. This item would go into a new inventory slot specifically for fishing poles and Filet knives.
    - Epic and Legendary filet knives required to filet Epic and Legendary fish

    Craftable Fishermans gear (light armor 3 piece set) – Vest, Waders, and hat.
    ​2 pieces – Fishing speed increased
    ​3 pieces – Chance for 2 fish on one hook (also possible to nab 2 rares on one hook!)


    SKILLS:

    Note – all skills are “Passive skills” – no active skills (and no hotbar!) would be added

    Skill line 1 – Gunny Master–
    • Sack Frequency - Improves the drop rate for gunny sacks
    • Valuable Sacks - Improves the loot table for gunny sacks (also adds a very small chance to get unique fishing gear that cannot be obtained from crafting – for increased chances read further)
    - With this skill, Gunny Sacks now drop Skyshards! (this is in order to make extra room for all of these new skills). There will be a cap on the number of Skyshards you can obtain. The exact number would be somewhere around the number needed to get all skills in the fishing line.


    Skill line 2 – Experienced fisherman
    • Choosy Fisherman- Improves the catch rate for rare fish.
    • Speed Caster- Increase the speed of fishing from the time of cast to hook
    • Faultless– longer time given to “catch” the fish once it is hooked
    • Fishing Hole Sense – Special fishing holes now appear. These are only visible to fisherman with this skill. These holes are required for a chance to catch the new Epic and Legendary fish


    Skill line 3 – Filleting Expertise
    • Roe Extraction- Improves chances for perfect roe
    • Roe Connoisseur - Small chance for proc - double perfect roe!
    • Master Filleter – Ability to filet Epic and Legendary fish


    Skill Line 4 – Master Baiter
    • Bait finder - Improves the drop rate of all forms of bait (through gathering and fishing)
    • Premium Baiter - Using Special bait (chub, minnows, etc), the fisherman can now catch epic and legendary fish!
    - Must be used in conjunction with the “Fishing hole sense” skill, as well as Epic/Legendary poles in order to catch Epic and Legendary fish.
    - These new fish are NOT needed for master angler achievement


    Epic (purple) fish – when fileted (must have “Master Fileter” skill line) - moderate chance for gunny sacks and rare fish (up to blue) inside of their bellies. (“Sack Frequency” and “Choosy fisherman” skill lines increase the chances for these drops)

    Legendary (gold) fish – when caught do not automatically go in your inventory. You have to fight them first! These would be similar in strength to a world boss (not a wrothgar world boss!). When killed, These new Legendary fish bosses have a chance to drop unique non-craftable fishing gear (hats, vests, waders) – presumably from the last fisherman that attempted to catch this particular fish! Keep in mind that this fish is loot-able only to the fisherman, however others can help you take the fish down.

    • When fileted (must have “Master Fileter” skill line) - good chance for perfect roe, gunny sacks and multiple rare fish (up to Epic) inside of their bellies. (“Sack Frequency” and “Choosy fisherman” skill lines increase the chances for these drops)

    • There is also a possibility for exclusive combat gear to drop, as these formidable fish have no qualms about their meals. Warriors taste the same as fisherman. (adding this would be a major incentive to everyone to take up the fishing skill line)

    This would make fishing more fun. :)
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    I was going to make my own thread but did a search and saw this and decided to bump this instead.

    I started to finally start fishing a bit here and there to eventually get the coveted Master Angler title and I'm thinking "why isn't there a skill line dedicated to fishing?" We have skill lines for everything else we do in this game that it seems like an odd omission to ignore fishing.

    Like the OP mentioned there are tons of good ideas to reward people who fish a lot. It would be pretty simple, the more you fish the more XP you get in the skill line. If you dedicate skill points, you can get things like slight increase to obtain rare fish, perfect roe, faster cast times, more fish per hole, etc.

    Seems like a no-brainer to me.
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