ladyonthemoon wrote: »

Alucardo wrote: »

ladyonthemoon wrote: »

I don't care what they are or are not.

Uh.. well you should considering you commented on a post regarding Rings of Mara

About objects being account bound instead of character bound, in general.

If you dont know what they are then how can you make any informed comment? Wait dont answer this its the internet after all. People think they should be able to blast off their instant emotional responses to everything on the internet.

Ill happily hide your comments from here on out so I can ignore you. Thanks.

No thanks. They're fine how they are. The Ring of Mara is a commitment one character makes to another character. If you want XP buffs across the board, join ESO+.

Snowgoons wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

No thanks. They're fine how they are. The Ring of Mara is a commitment one character makes to another character. If you want XP buffs across the board, join ESO+.

See what I mean people? People like this quoted guy make this forum useless to post ideas within.

Its a commitment to one character guys! Thats how it should work everyone. I don't really have anyone to use the rings with or don't even use them myself but I'm gonna be sure to say no to something that doesn't affect me.

Sigh.

LOL @Snowgoons saying that people like ME make this forum useless to post ideas within. Here are a few of the ideas I've posted Mr. Goons.

Gidorick wrote: »

Below is a collection of some of the ideas I have posted on this forum. I’ve gathered them into categories for ease of discovery. Beyond that, the organization is haphazard and random. If I post any new ideas (lol, who am I kidding... IF. ) I will update this thread.

Environmental Concepts:

• Immersive Darkness Concept
• Environmental Immersion Features that should be added to future zones
• Hopefully someday we will travel all of Nirn!
• Zoning logic
• Water Overhaul Suggestion
• ESO Contextual Fog Concept
• Environment & Weather Systems Overhaul Concept
• Day Length Adjustment & Holiday Implementation Concept
• Brutality Pack Concept

UI Concepts:

• Exhaled Breath Condensate
• ESO Advanced Mapping Concept
• Remove Zone Chat and do the following
• De-Mystical Mounts - A Crown Store Concept
• Informative Loading Screens Concept

Game Systems:

• Advanced Speechcraft Expansion Concept
• Remove Vet & Raise Level Cap Concept
• Invulnerable NPC Danger Awareness Concept
• ESO Character Offspring: A Phylogenetics Concept
• Mount Specific Racial Riding Bonuses Concept
• Advanced Mounts Overhaul Concept
• Tangible Mounts Advanced Concept
• Siege Weapon Concept: War Mounts
• Let the mobs roam FREE!!!!
• Player Driven Treasure Hunting Concept
• Advanced Lockpicking Concept/Suggestion
• Instigation Concept for Justice System and PvP
• Another Housing Suggestion: A 3 Phase Release Plan
• Player created content - Suggestion for the future of ESO
• Quest Desertion - Suggestion for a Justice System Addition
• In Game ZOS Developer Events - Concept
• Skooma Concept/Suggestion
• Merchant Specific Perk Suggestion
• ESO mobile app
• Dead Horse? Nope... Target Dummy
• ESO Needs an Auction Horse
• Khajiit and Dunmer Mount Sellers Concept
• A guard should NOT be invincible, but THE guard should be.
• Champion Points Catch Up Mechanic
• End Game Fighters & Mages Guild Questing Concepts
• Downward Scaling of players to match Zone levels
• Cadwell's Redux - An End Game Concept
• Make Vet Ranks levels
• Courier's Guild Mechanics, Skills, & Quests
• Perpetual Independent End Game Level Progression
• Justice System Addition - Public Indecency
• Player Home Personal Crafting Stations

Player Options & Items and Systems:

• Summonable Beast Merchants and Banker Concept
• Hirable NPC Companion concept
• ESO Tailor: A New Merchant and Skill Concept
• ESO Furrier, A Pet Shop Concept
• Portable Wayshrine Pieces
• Allow Multiple Pets Followers
• More Bags and Encumbrance: Crown Store Concepts
• Collecting ears...
• The need for functional torches
• Pay off the Guards!: Crown Store Items Concept
• Monetization of Character Creation Concept
• The Barber Shop
• Expanded Rested Bonus Concept
• Training Dummies Concept
• CP Active Passive Bar & CP Burn Concept
• Race Sub-Culture Concept
• Play-as-Creatures Concept
• Birthsign Mechanic Concept

Crown Store/ ESO+ Centric Concepts:

• ESO+ Subscription Benefits Suggestions
• Crown Store Costumed Disguises Bundles Concept
• split up Costume Bundles in the Crown Store
• In Game Crown Store Integration Concept
• Immersive Crown Store Concept
• Portable Dyes

Silly odds and ends:

• In-Game Headnetch
• Serious Crown Store Suggestion... but with levity!
• Suggestions for an eventual Khajiit-centric update
• Concept for a future Argonian Centric update
• Miniatures of our characters!

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/171334/gidoricks-concept-repository

You can post ideas all you want, but you have to accept that some people won't like your ideas. Divines know there are a LOT of people that don't like a LOT of my ideas.

Snowgoons wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

Snowgoons wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

No thanks. They're fine how they are. The Ring of Mara is a commitment one character makes to another character. If you want XP buffs across the board, join ESO+.

See what I mean people? People like this quoted guy make this forum useless to post ideas within.

Its a commitment to one character guys! Thats how it should work everyone. I don't really have anyone to use the rings with or don't even use them myself but I'm gonna be sure to say no to something that doesn't affect me.

Sigh.

LOL @Snowgoons saying that people like ME make this forum useless to post ideas within. Here are a few of the ideas I've posted Mr. Goons.

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Sorry to knock you off your high horse but: Half of those ideas are poorly thought out.

and rings of mara being connected to only one character never crossed your mind?

Just because you can type a lot doesn't mean you actually have something to say.

Perhaps some of them are poorly thought out but I would venture to guess you've read very few of them. Good try at a cheap shot though. If you really want to get at me go tell me which ones are poorly thought out (and how they are poorly thought out) on the individual threads. That'll get me REALLY riled up.

The ring of mara being account wide concept IS poorly thought out. They are character specific pledges. Full stop. No further discussion needed. Not every single design decision should cater to the "I deserve everything now!" crowd.

And again. If you want 10% bonuses across all character, just get ESO+. You actually get MORE bonuses for that.

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Islyn wrote: »

For the cost of these and the one time use of the pre-ESOTU version the should really be account bound.

You can buy more. It's a choice. Obviously they intended to permit us to buy more if we wanted and priced them accordingly.

I get some people want things for less or even free but it's a business and we choose to support it or not. How about cutting your wages 10%. Don't think you'd like that much.

OK but you didn't USED TO BE able to.

*Holy*

Why do some people attempt to convolute EVERY topic into another topic??

Also, I bought imperial box set AND a monthly sub since early access so I am the wrong chick to get on about 'free stuff.'

Thanks.

You guys, knock it off.

To me for what I paid for what I bought I thought all along I could use my rings BETWEEN CHARACTERS with SAME account.

Most people have more than one char and still play with the same account person. I feel like it's a priceyass thing for one character which is useless later anyway.

No need to get your manly bits all in a twist over it ffs.

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

I disagree that the "Ring of Mara" should should be account bound.
I do agree that an account exp benefit should exist if purchased via crowns.

??? Scuse me?

So if I buy one with crowns, it can be account bound?

Well i already bought mine with real money before crowns existed....

I think I am misunderstanding you.


If I'm not, what's the difference?

laksikus wrote: »

i want a ring that reduces the xp i get by 10%.
i would even pay crowns for it

I want a ring/ritual/stone/etc. that reduces XP gain by 100%. Been asking for this since Beta. I think it wouldn't work with 100% though since so many things in the game are scaled off from or set into motion by XP gain at this point. That being said, I would settle for 10%.

Hear Ye! I for one am in favor of account bound Rings of Mara!

Necrelios wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

No thanks. They're fine how they are. The Ring of Mara is a commitment one character makes to another character. If you want XP buffs across the board, join ESO+.

You aren't seeing the bigger picture here, some of us like myself created 8 versions of the same exact person split across fractured shards of Mundus linked through Aetherial harmonic resonance. In all of those different realities we are married to the same person! Or at least would be if we weren't too scared of the commitment to go through with it, but that's a different story.

lol. naw. interesting fan-fiction aside, I don't think ZOS should implement mechanics just to appease your very specific concept of your characters.

Islyn wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

No thanks. They're fine how they are. The Ring of Mara is a commitment one character makes to another character. If you want XP buffs across the board, join ESO+.

I am in ESO+ - want 20%

What I REALLY want to know is can you use TWO rings of Mara on one player, and run around with those two other players... all wearing each other's rings. Like this:

Gidorick wrote: »

What I REALLY want to know is can you use TWO rings of Mara on one player, and run around with those two other players... all wearing each other's rings. Like this:

Someone brought that up back in 'The Day' but I cannot recall what the answer was. I think it was Yes, but I am not sure.

Gidorick wrote: »

What I REALLY want to know is can you use TWO rings of Mara on one player, and run around with those two other players... all wearing each other's rings. Like this:

I suppose it could go a little something like that eventually. Plus there would be the problem with people wanting to Mara up with other people across different characters so I guess that's why the rings wouldn't work out so well if they were account bound after all.

SatanicSister wrote: »

As far as I've heard, if you wear 2 rings of Mara, then you still get only +10%. It's meant to prevent all people marrying many times just to get the bonus.

Bunch-a-prudes I tell ya.

But really, since Rings of Mara are a crown store item, I would think they'd want to sell as many as possible!

Islyn wrote: »

baratron wrote: »

Islyn wrote: »

wtfak?

I am 'the type' that when I mara'd my friend I always play with I would like to stay Mara'd to the same friend on all our characters, not just one.

What about other people who roleplay their characters, and have their characters marry based on that roleplay? Or who have characters in different Alliances?

My female character, Arzhela, is married to my real-life boyfriend's DC character. It wouldn't be appropriate for her to be married to his AD character because they've never met. Likewise, it would be weird to have any of my male characters married to his male character, seeing as that character identifies as straight. It would be even weirder if my straight male character ended up married to his straight male character. (I have a bisexual man, a bisexual woman, a gay guy, a straight guy, and two characters who haven't told me what their sexuality is yet.)

I understand that you want all of your characters to be married to all of your friend or partner's other characters, but that wouldn't suit everyone.

BUT ALL OUR CHARACTERS HAVE MET and are IN LOVE and married in a POLYAMOUROUS CROSS TAMRIELIC OCTAGONIC RELATIONSHIP!!! Are you putting down our ROLEPLAY!!? *Don't make me get out my fisticuffs*
In other words, don't crap all over my opinion on what would be better for my gaming experience for your roleplay stuffs. Thanks.

If it doesn't suit you then you just don't do it. However your version prevents me from doing something to make playing with my real friend for +10% xp more fun and quicker to lvl - whereas my version prevents from nor forces anything upon anyone.

I'm mystified as to why you are shouting at me. "My" version, as you call it, is the way that the game was coded. As for "crapping all over your opinion", I worded my post with the utmost respect for your opinion and I am not sure how I could have been any more respectful.

I am also unsure how you can believe that your version of ESO marriage "prevents from nor forces anything upon anyone". Your version forces every character that belongs to me to be married to the same other player. It also prevents my characters from marrying appropriately according to their gender and sexual orientation, which I find offensive.

I understand that your version would be better for your gaming experience, but to retrospectively change the Pledge of Mara in the way that you want would force your opinion on everyone who has already Pledged!

Islyn wrote: »

Also - I really hope you're not one of the ones crying about vet levels then telling me to go pack sand over a 10% xp increase. If so, I don't have a LOL big enough to fit that in, sorry.

What in Oblivion? Why was this comment even aimed at me? When did I say anything at all about the 10% XP increase - or indeed about Veteran levels?

I would have no problem at all if a new form of marriage was invented for players like you, and @Vyle_Byte , and the OP in this thread. There are dozens of gods in the Elder Scrolls universe after all, and Mara doesn't have a monopoly on marriage. I would support a petition for a new form of account-based marriage in addition to the existing Pledge of Mara.

However, to retrospectively change the way that the Pledge of Mara works would be extremely upsetting.

Vyle_Byte wrote: »

@baratron I do not hold exactly the same belief as the others you mentioned. While I do believe an account bound Ring should be available I didn't and haven't asked for all of my characters to be married to the same person. The ring, could be used by any of your characters, to marry who you'd like. While you are wearing said ring with said person you married, it would be active. You take the account bound ring and give it to a different character, then marry the said person of your choice.

For me its like that. It is NOT in my view that one account is married to one account only.

Agree with this.

Incarnatus wrote: »

Marriage should not be a convenience but a commitment. Therefore likewise with the rings of Mara. However if you are the kind of person without a selfless streak in you entire body .... I feel for you

What if your spouse passes away?!?