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Improving On ESO S04E04) NewTitle's,Inspecting,Connect Characters,Completion Slots,World Bosses ETC

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☆ Introduction


Please make sure you read first before voting also make sure to explain why as voting is only one part of the feedback. :D

☆ Season 1
☆ Season 2
☆ Season 3
☆ Season 4
☆ Season 5
☆ Gidorick's Repository Of brillant Ideas
Environmental Concepts:
UI Concepts:
Game Systems:
Player Options & Items and Systems:
Crown Store/ ESO+ Centric Concepts:
Silly odds and ends:

☆ Some Music While You Read
https://youtu.be/cp-v3LsEJKY

☆ Crafting titles And Titles In General
Just an idea but i believe like many that most things should carry a title i.e Loremaster for getting all mage books.

Just an example:
Highest Rank
Mid Rank
Lowest Rank


Maxing All Crafts
= Master artisan

Cooking Ranks / Enchanter Ranks
head chef / Grand Master Enchanter
Sous Chef / Skilled Enchanter
Station Chef / Soul Binder

Alchemy Ranks / Smithing Ranks
Doctor / Master Blacksmith
Experimentist / Renowned Blacksmith
Physician / Anvil Smith

Clothier / Wood Worker
Expert Maker / Elite Craftsman
Skilled needler / Trained Crafter
Apprentice Clothier / Skilled Hand

Gidorick's Opinion On This
There's a lot of Good stuff on this episode! I would like more titles in general. Crafting titles seem like a good way to add these. +1

☆ Inspect Players And Connect Your Characters
Inspecting players is a very helpful tool of mmos both to grow super jealous and to check someones gear to help them (geared for certain things).
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The ability to connect characters together is a time old favorite of our roleplaying friends and a very simple thing to setup.
I will let this picture speak for itself as its been asked for multiple times.
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Gidorick's Opinion On This
Inspect player: I'll quote myself here:
Gidorick wrote: »
IF inspect player is ever added to ESO it should be to see a text field that each player can set for themselves.

You select "Inspect Gidorick"

And since I am allowed to put whatever I want in that text field (within reason... standard community rules apply), you see:
You see a shifty eyed Argonian who thumbs the edge of the blade by his side. He obviously doesn't trust you, and you shouldn't trust him.

If I wanted to I could put stats and whatnot in that area, but that's up to each individual player to decide what they want to divulge.

It's not that I would be opposed to inspect player showing gear (especially since we have costumes that let players hide their gear). If we allow for gear inspection it should allow for the player to choose one of four visibility options.

Inspection Permissions
-Anyone
-Friends and group
-Friends only
-No one

The option to add your own public message shouldn't be associated with the Inspection Permissions.

The Legacy system in SWOTOR seems awesome! (I had to read up on it). My Phylogenetics concept touches on the idea of offspring.... which could totally work with a broader Lineage mechanic.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/153977/eso-character-offspring-a-phylogenetics-concept/p1

Amsel_McKay Opinion On Inspecting Players
Iron Boots

Or for unique items

Steel Boots 'Glow with the power of Nirn"

No stats, colors or anything... gear should have unique looks so an inspect should not need to exist.

Also if they add the Justice system (pvp version) and you inspect me their could be the possibility that you can see more info (justice system toggled on) with skills and abilities, but this gives a chance that you will get flagged PvP by the inspected player.

So inspect 1 50% chance of detect:

Iron Boots (Quality Gold)

Inspect 2 25% chance of detect:

Iron Boots of Magic / Quality Gold / 200 mana

but again this is only if you have the justice system toggled on. It adds to the ES feel and would make for some new skill lines / mini games.

☆ Achivement/ Completion Attachments
Have you ever wanted to show off your ability to find all the lore books?, Or for mastering a craft?.
Well what if they offered attachments under the collection tab for completing certain objects or achievements.
Say they added an attachment slot [1 back, 1 top piece, 1 bottom piece] that let you show off different achievements.
Possibly dyeable objects so people can add their own touch and to help people look different even with tonnes of choices.

Imagine walking around with a collection of books strapped to your back for getting all the mage books.

Imagine walking around with potions strapped to your waist for maxing the alchemy line.

Imagine walking around with knife strapped to your leg for maxing the Legerdemain line.

Imagine walking around with sets of keys/lockpicks hanging off your belt for completing the thieves guild line.

Imagine walking around with a lantern of magical essence for completing the mage guild line.

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Gidorick's Opinion On This
I love the idea.... you got me thinking @Heromofo. Damn you. :wink:

Achievement items would be great too, we sort of have this in the Trophy system. If ZOS were willing to add an additional accessory slot for players I would think they could add all SORTS of items both earnable in game and purchasable from the Crown Store.

This could be the slot that holds the body parts from my Collecting Ears thread. :naughty:
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/156333/collecting-ears

☆ World Bosses
A world boss is a raid boss-level monster that appears in the main, shared game world rather than an instance limited to a certain number of players. They are also known as world raid bosses, outdoor bosses, or outdoor raid bosses, and the phrase raid encounter may be used in place of raid boss. These bosses were designed to be fought by one or more raid-sized groups of max-level characters, although lower level characters may be brought along.

For ESO i would recommend 12-24 style world bosses we have a version of them now but 1. Not in size and 2. The ones we have now can be soloed.
Imagine a beast of insane size been spawned in Cyrodiil with an insane amount of health. As all three sides try to bring down this beast of Molag Bal while fighting each other. Of course the lag in pvp needs to be sorted out before any thing like this can be brought in. But things like this will help to spice up the game even if they are once a week events.

Estimate of old school style world bosses was roughly:
Initial spawn:

Tuesday Night, very late (~1-5%)
Wednesday Night (50-80%)
Thursday Night (15-20%)
Respawn:

2 days after previous kill (30%)
3 days after previous kill (40%)
4 days after previous kill (30%)

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I also wrote this up in another thread for AVAVA world bosses see here make sure to check it out its an unreal idea by @QuadroTony

Molag Bals Gate Guardians
Huge demon like creatures have entered the world of Nirn under Molag Bal's banner.
So gather your allies and rush to lend aid to your alliance to bring down these mighty demons!.

-They roam the country side of Cyrodil awaiting orders from Molag Bal but will crush anyone that tries to harm them.
-Each Guardian has unique abilities and god like strength.
-If your side can bring down a guardian you will be rewarded with a unique item and gain your alliance a temporary buff to aid in your victory.
-Once they drop to 50% hp all sides will become aware of this, so watch your back because you never know who is comming.

ETC ETC ETC

Just Some Cool Drawings:
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Gidorick's Opinion On This
World bosses would be cool but I wonder if "Overactive Anchors" might serve the same purpose. Everything as you suggested except it's just that the anchors spew overleveled mobs for a time. Each anchor of a zone remains opened until closed and will reopen if the other anchors aren't closed in a certain amount of time. This way the "boss" is the overwhelming task and not one specific creature.

I had an idea regarding Developer Events where ZOS would come in ams create a ruckus in game from time to time. That would also act as a "boss" event.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/143464/in-game-zos-developer-events-concept

I like the core concept of boss events but I think ESO's esthetic woud be better served with a more grandular event than one large creature to fight. Oh, and Zones should have failure states, if the players don't win.... merchants have pittance to sell. The sky is red.... just bad juju all around.

Edited by Heromofo on June 5, 2015 5:03PM

Improving On ESO S04E04) NewTitle's,Inspecting,Connect Characters,Completion Slots,World Bosses ETC 13 votes

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SpazzKidd3WodwooWOTANoHeromofo 4 votes
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Amsel_McKayKorprokRomo 3 votes
Agree To Some of This And I will Explain Below (What You Like/Dont Like)
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Gidorick 1 vote
  • Heromofo
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    I Agree To All (Explain Below)
    Notice
    Please explain why when voting on these episodes.
    The vote is only half of the feedback and i cannot count votes without an explanation.
    Because for all i know it's just a donkey vote so once again please explain your vote. :)


    Voting without no explanation will not be counted to the feedback of the episode its on.
    Edited by Heromofo on May 28, 2015 7:33AM
  • Heromofo
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    Fixed a few things and updated the thread overall.
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    Agree To Some of This And I will Explain Below (What You Like/Dont Like)
    Crafting titles OK but all others, no
    -PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
    ~<{[50]}>~ looks better than *501
  • Heromofo
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    I Agree To All (Explain Below)
    Crafting titles OK but all others, no

    Even the idea to give slots for completing certain things?.
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    I Agree To One Or More Here But I Have A Different Take On it (Explain Below)
    There's a lot of Good stuff on this episode! I would like more titles in general. Crafting titles seem like a good way to add these. +1

    Inspect player: I'll quote myself here:
    Gidorick wrote: »
    IF inspect player is ever added to ESO it should be to see a text field that each player can set for themselves.

    You select "Inspect Gidorick"

    And since I am allowed to put whatever I want in that text field (within reason... standard community rules apply), you see:
    You see a shifty eyed Argonian who thumbs the edge of the blade by his side. He obviously doesn't trust you, and you shouldn't trust him.

    If I wanted to I could put stats and whatnot in that area, but that's up to each individual player to decide what they want to divulge.

    It's not that I would be opposed to inspect player showing gear (especially since we have costumes that let players hide their gear). If we allow for gear inspection it should allow for the player to choose one of four visibility options.

    Inspection Permissions
    -Anyone
    -Friends and group
    -Friends only
    -No one

    The option to add your own public message shouldn't be associated with the Inspection Permissions.

    The Legacy system in SWOTOR seems awesome! (I had to read up on it). My Phylogenetics concept touches on the idea of offspring.... which could totally work with a broader Lineage mechanic.
    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/153977/eso-character-offspring-a-phylogenetics-concept/p1

    I love the idea.... you got me thinking @Heromofo. Damn you. :wink:

    Achievement items would be great too, we sort of have this in the Trophy system. If ZOS were willing to add an additional accessory slot for players I would think they could add all SORTS of items both earnable in game and purchasable from the Crown Store.

    This could be the slot that holds the body parts from my Collecting Ears thread. :naughty:
    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/156333/collecting-ears

    World bosses would be cool but I wonder if "Overactive Anchors" might serve the same purpose. Everything as you suggested except it's just that the anchors spew overleveled mobs for a time. Each anchor of a zone remains opened until closed and will reopen if the other anchors aren't closed in a certain amount of time. This way the "boss" is the overwhelming task and not one specific creature.

    I had an idea regarding Developer Events where ZOS would come in and create a ruckus in game from time to time. That would also act as a "boss" event.
    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/143464/in-game-zos-developer-events-concept

    I like the core concept of boss events but I think ESO's esthetic woud be better served with a more grandular event than one large creature to fight. Oh, and Zones should have failure states, if the players don't win.... merchants have pittance to sell. The sky is red.... just bad juju all around.

    Great stuff Mofo! Keep it up!
    Edited by Gidorick on May 28, 2015 4:09PM
    What ESO really needs is an Auction Horse.
    That's right... Horse.
    Click HERE to discuss.

    Want more crazy ideas? Check out my Concept Repository!
  • Heromofo
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    @Gidorick
    Done and done

    Thanks bud but you just blew me away with that addition to the inspection bit that i did not consider.
    Think of the possibilities
    1. It stops people pulling the mickey out of others gear unless you let them.
    2. That message deal would add tonnes of immersion and i especially liked your message. :D
  • Heromofo
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    Heromofo wrote: »
    @Gidorick
    Done and done

    Thanks bud but you just blew me away with that addition to the inspection bit that i did not consider.
    Think of the possibilities
    1. It stops people pulling the mickey out of others gear unless you let them.
    2. That message deal would add tonnes of immersion and i especially liked your message. :D

    With your addition i feel this thread is a top must be seen episode so i must try to summon two of the most powerful moderators out there!.

    WITH ALL MY STRENGTH I SHALL SUMMON @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

    Chant with me :D
    Edited by Heromofo on May 28, 2015 4:22PM
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    I Agree To One Or More Here But I Have A Different Take On it (Explain Below)
    Lol. That made me chuckle Mofo. :lol:
    What ESO really needs is an Auction Horse.
    That's right... Horse.
    Click HERE to discuss.

    Want more crazy ideas? Check out my Concept Repository!
  • Heromofo
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    Gidorick wrote: »
    Lol. That made me chuckle Mofo. :lol:

    :D always a bonus

    Chanting
    Edited by Heromofo on May 28, 2015 4:32PM
  • Amsel_McKay
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    Crafting titles And Titles In General - I would have them all, but I dont need to share it with others and titles now are useless I see people with titles and I like do you walk around in the real world with a tag on your chest that states "I work a 6 figure job" - epeen item

    Inspect Players And Connect Your Characters - Gear should be unique enough to be able to tell what item it is. In EQ I remember to this day what the Wurmslayer looked like I did not need to inspect... Its an ultimate epeen item

    Achievement/ Completion Attachments - Ultimate epeen item that people will most likely only put on the ones that are the hardest to get. They could just add costumes items like this and not link them to achievements.

    World Bosses - Like in every game that has World Bosses they are locked down by elitist big guilds, even with random timers. My old guild had the sleeper tomb locked down for a year and a half, and all the other big mobs as well... and this was on a PvP server.

    So far a majority of your posts just add more work to ESO if you want to improve ESO you need to start looking at what is broken with the game at the moment and fix that FIRST... then start adding more "features" This week is a no to all.
  • gurluasb16_ESO
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    As for Titles, I'd like more factional titles.
    "Hand of Almalexia" and all those IC titles you received would be nice as proper titles.

    Also divines titles would be good like:
    "Stendarr's Spear"
    "Meridia's Blade"
    "Auriel's Arrow" etc.
  • Heromofo
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    Crafting titles And Titles In General - I would have them all, but I dont need to share it with others and titles now are useless I see people with titles and I like do you walk around in the real world with a tag on your chest that states "I work a 6 figure job" - epeen item

    Inspect Players And Connect Your Characters - Gear should be unique enough to be able to tell what item it is. In EQ I remember to this day what the Wurmslayer looked like I did not need to inspect... Its an ultimate epeen item

    Achievement/ Completion Attachments - Ultimate epeen item that people will most likely only put on the ones that are the hardest to get. They could just add costumes items like this and not link them to achievements.

    World Bosses - Like in every game that has World Bosses they are locked down by elitist big guilds, even with random timers. My old guild had the sleeper tomb locked down for a year and a half, and all the other big mobs as well... and this was on a PvP server.

    So far a majority of your posts just add more work to ESO if you want to improve ESO you need to start looking at what is broken with the game at the moment and fix that FIRST... then start adding more "features" This week is a no to all.

    @Amsel_McKay
    You make some good points bud but the inspect player would be handy now with costumes plus i highly recommend checking out @Gidorick opinion on each part really love his input on that part.

    Yeah i know there are so many problems with ESO that it is becomming a running joke.
    But i have faith in them that by the end of this year that they will have most problems sorted.
    All we can do is suggest possible new features and ways for them to make more money for now.

    Like with the attachment part think about the money that would be made by allowing say a belt of throwing knifes for show to the crown store for 1000 a pop to go over your beautiful armor. :)
    Edited by Heromofo on May 28, 2015 5:28PM
  • Heromofo
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    As for Titles, I'd like more factional titles.
    "Hand of Almalexia" and all those IC titles you received would be nice as proper titles.

    Also divines titles would be good like:
    "Stendarr's Spear"
    "Meridia's Blade"
    "Auriel's Arrow" etc.
    @gurluasb16_ESO
    I can definitely get on board with this i enjoy seeing different titles. :)
    Edited by Heromofo on May 28, 2015 5:26PM
  • Amsel_McKay
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    Heromofo wrote: »
    You make some good points bud but the inspect player would be handy now with costumes

    Why is it "handy" why do you care what stuff other people have? I dont understand that concept? So what if a VR14 player is wearing a gold item or a purple item on his head slot... Its armor it "should" have a look that is better quality if the item is better quality if you want the game to be good.

    In WOW people would walk around town and inspect my players and I just think that they should have been auto marked for PvP if they want to see my gear so bad.

    If they add an inspect it should only have the material name of the item like "Iron Boots" and not anymore info like traits, stats, quality... because it should not matter...
  • Heromofo
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    Heromofo wrote: »
    You make some good points bud but the inspect player would be handy now with costumes

    Why is it "handy" why do you care what stuff other people have? I dont understand that concept? So what if a VR14 player is wearing a gold item or a purple item on his head slot... Its armor it "should" have a look that is better quality if the item is better quality if you want the game to be good.

    In WOW people would walk around town and inspect my players and I just think that they should have been auto marked for PvP if they want to see my gear so bad.

    If they add an inspect it should only have the material name of the item like "Iron Boots" and not anymore info like traits, stats, quality... because it should not matter...
    @Amsel_McKay
    I will quote from @Gidorick
    It should help and i think you will like it.

    Inspect player: I'll quote myself here:
    Gidorick wrote: »
    IF inspect player is ever added to ESO it should be to see a text field that each player can set for themselves.

    You select "Inspect Gidorick"

    And since I am allowed to put whatever I want in that text field (within reason... standard community rules apply), you see:
    You see a shifty eyed Argonian who thumbs the edge of the blade by his side. He obviously doesn't trust you, and you shouldn't trust him.

    If I wanted to I could put stats and whatnot in that area, but that's up to each individual player to decide what they want to divulge.

    It's not that I would be opposed to inspect player showing gear (especially since we have costumes that let players hide their gear). If we allow for gear inspection it should allow for the player to choose one of four visibility options.

    Inspection Permissions
    -Anyone
    -Friends and group
    -Friends only
    -No one

    The option to add your own public message shouldn't be associated with the Inspection Permissions.



    As for the world of warcraft bit i found it very useful to weed out peoples builds i found useless for what ever raid we were doing.
    Normally by comparing their build to their gear to maximize their dps but i understand people dont like this.
    Hence why i really like Gidorick idea on it as it allows you to deny it with your own message. :)


    Edit: this is back in vanilla wow - Hk Lk because every bit was vital until a nerf lol.
    Of course our guild always gave the gold for respecs and showed the optimal builds for that raid.
    But for ESO this would be handy to both help people and to see what other people are running to better customize your own build.
    Edited by Heromofo on May 28, 2015 5:44PM
  • Amsel_McKay
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    Heromofo wrote: »
    As for the world of warcraft bit i found it very useful to weed out people i deemed useless.
    Normally by comparing their build to their gear to maximize their dps but i understand people dont like this.
    Hence why i really like Gidorick idea on it as it allows you to deny it with your own message. :)

    You see the problem is if you deny it then you are saying you are useless according to the ways MMOs epeen / elitists work... You are saying that you want this information so you can find out who is better then another, if they have it deny showing that information you will assume that they are not good enough.

    If my info said "go away stop looking at my underwear" people would assume that it was because I dont have good gear and to get groups I would be required to allow all. For a while in WOW I had the highest "gear score" for a warrior and I hated that I would get messages every day about how did you get so and so and you must have no life etc etc. If you open that API I can guarantee that a gear score page will show up.

    So its catch 22, either I deny all to stop people looking at my stats, or its allow all to get into groups to prove I have the best gear...

    Having this selection:
    -Anyone
    -Friends and group
    -Friends only
    -No one

    Would be useless in this situation once that data is let out to your friends or group members it will be known.
  • Heromofo
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    Heromofo wrote: »
    As for the world of warcraft bit i found it very useful to weed out people i deemed useless.
    Normally by comparing their build to their gear to maximize their dps but i understand people dont like this.
    Hence why i really like Gidorick idea on it as it allows you to deny it with your own message. :)

    You see the problem is if you deny it then you are saying you are useless according to the ways MMOs epeen / elitists work... You are saying that you want this information so you can find out who is better then another, if they have it deny showing that information you will assume that they are not good enough.

    If my info said "go away stop looking at my underwear" people would assume that it was because I dont have good gear and to get groups I would be required to allow all. For a while in WOW I had the highest "gear score" for a warrior and I hated that I would get messages every day about how did you get so and so and you must have no life etc etc. If you open that API I can guarantee that a gear score page will show up.

    So its catch 22, either I deny all to stop people looking at my stats, or its allow all to get into groups to prove I have the best gear...

    Having this selection:
    -Anyone
    -Friends and group
    -Friends only
    -No one

    Would be useless in this situation once that data is let out to your friends or group members it will be known.

    @Amsel_McKay
    Thank you Amsel_McKay you have given me alot to think about as i did not even consider this.

    I think for every feature there will always be a down side mmmm.
  • Heromofo
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    @Amsel_McKay

    Speaking of say you were to implement this feature how would you want it?.

    Say it was going in ither way.
  • Amsel_McKay
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    Heromofo wrote: »
    @Amsel_McKay

    Speaking of say you were to implement this feature how would you want it?.

    Say it was going in ither way.

    Like I think I said before just a simple armor info like:

    Iron Boots

    Or for unique items

    Steel Boots 'Glow with the power of Nirn"

    No stats, colors or anything... gear should have unique looks so an inspect should not need to exist.

    Also if they add the Justice system (pvp version) and you inspect me their could be the possibility that you can see more info (justice system toggled on) with skills and abilities, but this gives a chance that you will get flagged PvP by the inspected player.

    So inspect 1 50% chance of detect:

    Iron Boots (Quality Gold)

    Inspect 2 25% chance of detect:

    Iron Boots of Magic / Quality Gold / 200 mana

    but again this is only if you have the justice system toggled on. It adds to the ES feel and would make for some new skill lines / mini games.
  • Heromofo
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    Heromofo wrote: »
    @Amsel_McKay

    Speaking of say you were to implement this feature how would you want it?.

    Say it was going in ither way.

    Like I think I said before just a simple armor info like:

    Iron Boots

    Or for unique items

    Steel Boots 'Glow with the power of Nirn"

    No stats, colors or anything... gear should have unique looks so an inspect should not need to exist.

    Also if they add the Justice system (pvp version) and you inspect me their could be the possibility that you can see more info (justice system toggled on) with skills and abilities, but this gives a chance that you will get flagged PvP by the inspected player.

    So inspect 1 50% chance of detect:

    Iron Boots (Quality Gold)

    Inspect 2 25% chance of detect:

    Iron Boots of Magic / Quality Gold / 200 mana

    but again this is only if you have the justice system toggled on. It adds to the ES feel and would make for some new skill lines / mini games.

    @Amsel_McKay
    I have added your opinion to the main part of the thread because i am a strong believer that for an idea to be considered both sides must be heard.

    Plus i like how you brought in the justice system. :D
  • Gidorick
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    Heromofo wrote: »
    As for the world of warcraft bit i found it very useful to weed out people i deemed useless.
    Normally by comparing their build to their gear to maximize their dps but i understand people dont like this.
    Hence why i really like Gidorick idea on it as it allows you to deny it with your own message. :)

    You see the problem is if you deny it then you are saying you are useless according to the ways MMOs epeen / elitists work... You are saying that you want this information so you can find out who is better then another, if they have it deny showing that information you will assume that they are not good enough.

    If my info said "go away stop looking at my underwear" people would assume that it was because I dont have good gear and to get groups I would be required to allow all. For a while in WOW I had the highest "gear score" for a warrior and I hated that I would get messages every day about how did you get so and so and you must have no life etc etc. If you open that API I can guarantee that a gear score page will show up.

    So its catch 22, either I deny all to stop people looking at my stats, or its allow all to get into groups to prove I have the best gear...

    Having this selection:
    -Anyone
    -Friends and group
    -Friends only
    -No one

    Would be useless in this situation once that data is let out to your friends or group members it will be known.

    it depends on the REASON you're denying. Is it to make others think you're more powerful than you are? Maybe you want them to think you're less powerful. Do you want your friends to see your gear so they can find out the style? Do you want to weed out those with inferior gear for a raid? Do you want to inspect a friend to see if you have better gear to give them? Maybe you want to hide your gear because your gear is inconsequential to your play style...

    There are many reasons to allow it. Mostly tough, options are good to have. :)
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  • Heromofo
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    Gidorick wrote: »
    Heromofo wrote: »
    As for the world of warcraft bit i found it very useful to weed out people i deemed useless.
    Normally by comparing their build to their gear to maximize their dps but i understand people dont like this.
    Hence why i really like Gidorick idea on it as it allows you to deny it with your own message. :)

    You see the problem is if you deny it then you are saying you are useless according to the ways MMOs epeen / elitists work... You are saying that you want this information so you can find out who is better then another, if they have it deny showing that information you will assume that they are not good enough.

    If my info said "go away stop looking at my underwear" people would assume that it was because I dont have good gear and to get groups I would be required to allow all. For a while in WOW I had the highest "gear score" for a warrior and I hated that I would get messages every day about how did you get so and so and you must have no life etc etc. If you open that API I can guarantee that a gear score page will show up.

    So its catch 22, either I deny all to stop people looking at my stats, or its allow all to get into groups to prove I have the best gear...

    Having this selection:
    -Anyone
    -Friends and group
    -Friends only
    -No one

    Would be useless in this situation once that data is let out to your friends or group members it will be known.

    it depends on the REASON you're denying. Is it to make others think you're more powerful than you are? Maybe you want them to think you're less powerful. Do you want your friends to see your gear so they can find out the style? Do you want to weed out those with inferior gear for a raid? Do you want to inspect a friend to see if you have better gear to give them? Maybe you want to hide your gear because your gear is inconsequential to your play style...

    There are many reasons to allow it. Mostly tough, options are good to have. :)
    @Gidorick
    Loooove more options o and player housing. :D
  • Leijona
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    Crafting titles And Titles In General: Yes, would be nice

    Inspect Players And Connect Your Characters: I'm not certain about the inspect part. I could never see the use for connecting the own characters. I would love to see such connections between characters of different players, though.

    Achivement/ Completion Attachments: Yes, but certainly nothing ZOS will ever do, as it would "influence performence in Cyrodiil .. bla, bla, bla". Loved it in Warhammer Online, but ZOS isn't even making good armor, they would never do such a thing.

    World Bosses: That would really be good. If ZOS had good programmer, they could make them like the rifts in ... RIFT, were you can auto-group and afterwards ungroup easily. Even premade groups can group together, it's working just great. And of course, players would have to be downgraded, like in FFXIV. But that is complicate, as ZOS said, and therefor nothing they would spend their time on.
  • Heromofo
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    Leijona wrote: »
    Crafting titles And Titles In General: Yes, would be nice

    :D

    Inspect Players And Connect Your Characters: I'm not certain about the inspect part. I could never see the use for connecting the own characters. I would love to see such connections between characters of different players, though.

    yeah could be interesting to see say setting up a gene map showing othe players apart of it like that.

    Achivement/ Completion Attachments: Yes, but certainly nothing ZOS will ever do, as it would "influence performence in Cyrodiil .. bla, bla, bla". Loved it in Warhammer Online, but ZOS isn't even making good armor, they would never do such a thing.
    yeah it's a shame that can't even handle cloaks and capes but i thought i would bring this up maybe for the future.

    World Bosses: That would really be good. If ZOS had good programmer, they could make them like the rifts in ... RIFT, were you can auto-group and afterwards ungroup easily. Even premade groups can group together, it's working just great. And of course, players would have to be downgraded, like in FFXIV. But that is complicate, as ZOS said, and therefor nothing they would spend their time on.

    I have not played Rift but i am aware of how it works for them and would work for ESO. :)
  • Heromofo
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    Thread has been updated and new ideas added also check out the linked in thread for AVAVA world bosses pretty interesting idea.
  • nastuug
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    Like most of it except the inspecting of others. I'd rather keep that out.
  • Heromofo
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    nastuug wrote: »
    Like most of it except the inspecting of others. I'd rather keep that out.

    Yeah it doesn't seem to be popular i just figured it would be because im a dirty old school wow player. :D

    But it comes with downsides and can cause elitism and then i normally get in trouble for pulling the mickey out of them when they try that lol.
  • nastuug
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    Heromofo wrote: »
    nastuug wrote: »
    Like most of it except the inspecting of others. I'd rather keep that out.

    Yeah it doesn't seem to be popular i just figured it would be because im a dirty old school wow player. :D

    But it comes with downsides and can cause elitism and then i normally get in trouble for pulling the mickey out of them when they try that lol.

    I hate it when you pull your mickey out here.
  • Heromofo
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    nastuug wrote: »
    Heromofo wrote: »
    nastuug wrote: »
    Like most of it except the inspecting of others. I'd rather keep that out.

    Yeah it doesn't seem to be popular i just figured it would be because im a dirty old school wow player. :D

    But it comes with downsides and can cause elitism and then i normally get in trouble for pulling the mickey out of them when they try that lol.

    I hate it when you pull your mickey out here.

    Lol im going to stop saying that now. :D
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