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Improving On ESO S03E01) Parkour In ESO,ESO Prisons,Xfer's And A Bloodier ESO

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☆ Introduction

Welcome to series 3 of improving ESO Thank you for the continued support.
Please make sure you read first before voting also make sure to explain why as voting is only one part of the feedback. :D

☆ Season 1
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☆ Gidorick's Repository Of brillant Ideas
Environmental Concepts:
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Game Systems:
Player Options & Items and Systems:
Crown Store/ ESO+ Centric Concepts:
Silly odds and ends:

☆ Some Music While You Read
https://youtu.be/cCxjP0SON2I

☆ Slip And Slide Rooftops and Parkour

With the addition of stealing its time to see the rooftops become more Useable and more assassin style.
With any luck we will see the thieves guild come into eso this year and this should be included but why stop there.
Im going to link a video covering parkour style movement in warframe a shooter mmo rpg of course i wouldn't expect that level of movement.

But imagine leaping from rooftop to rooftop, leaping over guard rails and sliding down hills and at the last moment jumping over your target.

"But Heromofo ESO cant support this type of movement"

They said the same about warframe and over time they have perfected this note that warframe is much much older of a game than eso.
Also see the second video added using Skyrim as a base as parkour is added.
See for yourself
https://youtu.be/86DFeTqLp3s

Here is a rough version of it using Skyrim as a base
https://youtu.be/XOj7WAAABm0


☆ Jail And Jailed Time

"Lets Go To Prison"
Prisons and jails are a big part of The Elder Scrolls games. They have been included in Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim. When the player commits crimes they are sent to jail to pay for said crimes.

*From Skyrims Prison System*
After committing a crime and being put into a jail, one option is to escape from it.
When put in the jail after committing a crime, the Dragonborn suffers a skill decrease and their progress towards the next skill level in all skills is reset to zero.

So say you have a 50,000 gold bounty on your head and you choose to go to jail.
You can choose to serve the sentence this will put all experience towards your next level by x amount ( 50,000 = 50 percent of said level)(If the player is maxed level this does not affect them) and reduces all your skills by 5 ( 1 for every 10 thousand) instead.
Meaning after you leave you will need to re level your skills back up if your max level or if your not max level you have just lost some experience.

Option two would be to escape the jail this would be a mini game of not been detected based on your level should you fail you are forced to take option 1 and serve the sentence. But if your a master thief and pull this off then the effects of sentence is halfed so instead of ( 50,000 equaling 50 percent it is instead 25 percent) if your maxed level (50,000 equaling minus 5 to all skills it is then only 2.5).

A skill could be added to the thieves guild line to lower the effects of this as well.

https://youtu.be/ftVwi_AhhnY


☆ Console To Pc Transfer And Vice Versa / Paid Server Swap

now this will be short but i feel that once the console versions are out that you guys should offer transfers between consoles and pc versions of the game for all. Say you charged $29.99 usd for this option to everyone and say 120,000 people took use of this within the first month then zos would bank $3,598,800 that month alone.

I would also like to add in a possible paid server swap between EU and NA as well as a possible Oceanic mega server later on if the sales do well.
A simple 20 dollars to swap between servers would also help create more income and make setting up the console transfers more worth while.

Win Win to all
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☆ Blood Blood And Maybe Khajiit Blood


Blood and gore you gotta love this option in games but in ESO it feels lacking.
Of course not everyone will want this but this could simply be on the player side not the server side.
With a slider option in the gameplay section we have a version of this now but lets see it increased for the players like myself who want this.

There was a beautiful mod for skyrim made for just this check it out @ZOS
https://youtu.be/BzAWv_JAb5I


Edited by Heromofo on June 5, 2015 8:41PM

Improving On ESO S03E01) Parkour In ESO,ESO Prisons,Xfer's And A Bloodier ESO 33 votes

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darkspyro92_ESOGidorickHeroOfNoneSpazzKidd3KendaricSigunoShiunTrazeTierbookTheShadowScoutUberkulldafox187HeromofoWoodoochill 13 votes
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AquilonPsychobunniRebKorprokNebthet78daswahnsinnBBSoonerVictusRomosix2fallNaeramarth 11 votes
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c.p.garrett1993_ESOLeijonaWodwophairdonMedivh50 5 votes
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AlienSlofKalifasnastuugAzurephoenix999 4 votes
  • Heromofo
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    Just to point out warframe is a f2p mmo rpg

    Soooo zos you should look at it
  • Heromofo
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    @ZOS_AlanG
    Here is skyrim using some of the parkour not hard to implement but you will need to improve on it.

    Edit: Added the video to the thread
    https://youtu.be/XOj7WAAABm0
    Edited by Heromofo on May 15, 2015 12:02PM
  • Heromofo
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    If you do not wish to explain your vote then please do not vote as the poll is only half the feedback needed.

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  • Gidorick
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    Parkour should be a skill and it should have a meter like Shadow of the Colossus.
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  • Heromofo
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    Gidorick wrote: »
    Parkour should be a skill and it should have a meter like Shadow of the Colossus.

    Yup did you see the skyrim parkour video Gidorick if it can be done there and in an mmo like warframe it can be done in eso. :)
    Edited by Heromofo on May 15, 2015 12:26PM
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    I Agree To One Or More Here But I Have A Different Take On it (Explain Below)
    I like the blood and prisons ideas - especially the blood! I like gore in my games, what can I say? ;)

    Couldn't care less about parkour or console, though.
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  • Heromofo
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    AlienSlof wrote: »
    I like the blood and prisons ideas - especially the blood! I like gore in my games, what can I say? ;)

    Couldn't care less about parkour or console, though.

    Lol i love it bloody as well did you watch the video the difference in blood as well is important.
  • c.p.garrett1993_ESO
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    Parkour is definitely a must. Let's pass on the flips and tricks, though. Simple climbing mechanisms are fine. Get to the rooftops and use those to escape guards. The ability to vault over obstacles would also be nice.

    Prison sentences, blood & gore, and system transfers would all be nice as well.
  • darkspyro92_ESO
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    I love them, but that video is just acrobatics, not parkour. The Warframe is, but not the Skyrim one.
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    I'm all good for the blood, but that's about all. No Ass Creed ESO plskthx.
    Edited by nastuug on May 15, 2015 1:57PM
  • Heromofo
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    Parkour is definitely a must. Let's pass on the flips and tricks, though. Simple climbing mechanisms are fine. Get to the rooftops and use those to escape guards. The ability to vault over obstacles would also be nice.

    Prison sentences, blood & gore, and system transfers would all be nice as well.

    Yeah i believe some version of it should be brought in :)
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    Climbing on top of buildings is going to be near impossible to implement if you listen to the underwater discussion in the last ESO live. If ZOS can't get underwater going, jumping on rooftops will be difficult. How is that related? If I can scale rooftops, now ZOS has to deal with 'out of bounds' areas in a vertical sense. Picking off NPCs from rooftops, abusing the Justice system, unreachable areas, etc.

    When I played WoW, one of the issues was exploiting rooftops. So the devs had to take GM reports one by one and fix rooftop layouts, adding barriers, invisible walls, so people couldn't sit and snipe. It became more annoying than fun to be on rooftops.
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  • Heromofo
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    I love them, but that video is just acrobatics, not parkour. The Warframe is, but not the Skyrim one.

    Yeah i just wanted to show them versions of it and see what may come of it. :D

    Ps. Updated alot of threads just small bits and pieces if you feel up for a read. :D
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    Especially a prison system is something I´d love to see, as the current system lacks any real consequences.
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      nastuug wrote: »
      I'm all good for the blood, but that's about all. No Ass Creed ESO plskthx.

      I wouldn't go that far but roof jumping and jumping over rails would really help lol.
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      I think parkour should absolutely be in the game for all classes. It adds more dynamism to the game. I think Acrobats should be a Nightblade only movement and the other classes should get unique movements. DragonKnight should get brute force movements and Sorceror warps and levitation type stuff.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06LAXhXNLLQ

      And finishers should come to ESO, it just makes combat that much cooler. Minus the blood, because then it would veer into the Dragon Age feel or face mature only rating. I think too much gore while realistic in life, it wouldn't really fit in this game.


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    • Heromofo
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      Kalifas wrote: »
      I think parkour should absolutely be in the game for all classes. It adds more dynamism to the game. I think Acrobats should be a Nightblade only movement and the other classes should get unique movements. DragonKnight should get brute force movements and Sorceror warps and levitation type stuff.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06LAXhXNLLQ

      And finishers should come to ESO, it just makes combat that much cooler. Minus the blood, because then it would veer into the Dragon Age feel or face mature only rating. I think too much gore while realistic in life, it wouldn't really fit in this game.


      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bxsy3j3dRo

      Dam mate that bloke is a true ninja aha lol thanks for the videos bud.
      I have been trying to get feedback on all episodes but very little so far from ZOS.
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      Kendaric wrote: »
      Especially a prison system is something I´d love to see, as the current system lacks any real consequences.

      You are right there i just hope ZOS likes my idea for it.
    • Aquilon
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      These all require new gameplay mechanics, which take a lot of time to prototype, debug, and implement, furthermore they almost always introduce new exploits. Not that I'm against any of these ideas but (other than parkour because IMO it breaks immersion), but they really require a lot of dev resources that probably don't exist, feedback about the modification of existing mechanics would probably be more useful.

      Gore and blood is plausible, but once again there's the issue of rendering it. In addition to requiring additional operations to calculate fluid-dynamics, there is also the issue of the scope of who can see gore. I imagine that people could easily spam the splash animations and cause massive amounts of lag. They could be rendered on local machines too but as far as I know, all animations are global.
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      More blood ftw, the game is rated M for mature now isn't it?
    • daswahnsinn
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      Well you want to play assassins creed, cool go play it. Account transfers are good but they did it once and may do it again before June. Prisons will xome once consoles are released and the second part of the justice system is pushed out. Blood woyld cause more lag and fps drop and the M+ rating isn't really true to this game due to the code of conducts.
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    • Heromofo
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      Tierbook wrote: »
      More blood ftw, the game is rated M for mature now isn't it?

      Lol indeed but ESO lacks it big time also i am posting to let yas know i have updated the thread to include paid server swapping.
    • Azurephoenix999
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      I don't think our skills should decrease. Ever. If you're going to have prisons here's what you should do instead.

      The bounty at the time of imprisonment determins the length of the sentence. The length of the sentence served should affect the magnitude and duration of a debuff. This debuff (Atrophy) cannot be removed by any means until it expires on its own. The timer only goes down while the player is logged in and playing as that character.

      The debuffs could be:

      Less max health, magicka, stamina.
      Less regeneration in all 3.
      XP from all sources except quests (as they can't be repeated and thus are finite) is decreased.
      Moving speed is decreased.
      Cast time for all spells and abilities is increased.
      Damage dealt is decreased.
      Damage taken is increased.

      The reason I think skills themselves shouldn't decrease is because people worked hard to get them where they are. In an MMO, prison is supposed to be a strictly temporary thing. This means all repercussions should be temporary. Although skills can be retrained, it still requires the player to actively level them again.

      Also, that mages skill line only increases when you collect lorebooks, which are finite. If the skill line kept decreasing by half of the maximum every time you went to prison, it'd be impossible to max out.
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