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Maintenance for the week of April 14:
• PC/Mac: No maintenance – April 14
• Xbox: NA and EU megaservers for maintenance – April 16, 6:00AM EDT (10:00 UTC) - 9:00AM EDT (13:00 UTC)
• PlayStation®: NA and EU megaservers for maintenance – April 16, 6:00AM EDT (10:00 UTC) - 9:00AM EDT (13:00 UTC)
  • DBZVelena
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    Devilhand wrote: »

    There is an error here...

    Forum account may be diferent to game log in account. Hence, the date you join forums to post might be desync with the date you actually started playing the game.
    Happens to me too.

    oh yea, i played beta, but my forum acc says 2016 too. So very possible.
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  • Cpt_Teemo
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    Samadhi wrote: »

    Willing to bet yours is even higher than my own
    personally left back before Dark Brotherhood, and just came back a few weeks ago
    all those missed potential hours of play

    Same, left 3 months after initial launch then came back last december
  • Kronuxx
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    Is it the armor stacking exploit, where people gain the benefit of multiple armor set buffs?
  • yodased
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    TeIvanni wrote: »

    I guess if i was in the mob, yeah.

    WAIT is Gina in the mob??

    Dunno about Mafia, but she is pretty gangster.

    Hey, Gina when you guys gonna ban them damn exploiters??

    kpyDROv.png

    Tl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.
  • DBZVelena
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    TeIvanni wrote: »

    I guess if i was in the mob, yeah.

    WAIT is Gina in the mob??

    LOL ZOS is secretly backed by the mob, they're using an mmo to launder money.
    What are Natch Potes? Can you eat those?
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  • Cpt_Teemo
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    DBZVelena wrote: »

    oh yea, i played beta, but my forum acc says 2016 too. So very possible.

    Weird, always thought they had the same date cause my account said I made it on November as well weird
  • SixVoltCar
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    DBZVelena wrote: »

    oh yea, i played beta, but my forum acc says 2016 too. So very possible.

    I fail to see why it matters when you started.

    Is it a prestige thing? Or just arbitrary "I know better than you" 's
    Edited by SixVoltCar on August 16, 2017 4:33PM
  • yodased
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    SixVoltCar wrote: »

    I fail to see why it matters when you started.

    epeen.jpg
    Tl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.
  • maryriv
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    It's ok. This can be a good place to chat in the meantime.

    Gina, since CP is bugged can we please have a free refund of our CP. I ONLY put points in that tree because of Treasure Hunter, they are wasted if that does not work.
  • SixVoltCar
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    maryriv wrote: »

    Gina, since CP is bugged can we please have a free refund of our CP. I ONLY put points in that tree because of Treasure Hunter, they are wasted if that does not work.

    Lol is she viewed as some sort of genie? We're dealing with an unspeakable exploit here.
  • yodased
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    maryriv wrote: »

    Gina, since CP is bugged can we please have a free refund of our CP. I ONLY put points in that tree because of Treasure Hunter, they are wasted if that does not work.

    ZOS be like

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvXpUksn5hU
    Tl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.
  • Nebthet78
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    nine9six wrote: »

    This.

    I can't say this is *EXACTLY* what the issue is, but I'll give you a little insight on what I've experienced in the last 12 hours...

    I logged-off around 9:30 PM EST last night.

    I checked Discord on my phone around 7 AM EST while taking my puppy out and had our 2nd In Command messaging me saying I was demoting people, kicking people, Guild Bank, etc. They knew it wasn't me, and that my account had been compromised.

    I logged in and checked, sure enough...my account (Tens of millions of Gold and tens of thousands of Gold Materials, Psijic Recipes, Rare Motifs, etc. Literally...a Jackpot Account.) had been hijacked.

    I never got an "unknown IP" email. I only play in 2 locations. Neither are accessible during the hours which this 'attack' took place. Unless you like armed security at one location or a nasty Doberman in your face at another...lol.

    I lost 3.5 years worth of stuff, not to mention 2 of my Personal Guild Banks! :(

    I hope this is all related, and I hope they roll-back all the changes that were made during this time.

    *IF* this isn't related...well...it's been fun playing with you all!

    Wow, this is super serious and will be warning all my guilds to check their banks and for the leaders to update their passwords just in case. Hopefully this will get fixed asap.

    Devilhand wrote: »

    Well, yea.. that makes sence for the permition part. Yet, I dont feel this is the reason. It's a personal account issue, does not justify for a whole server roll back and neither a hotfix mantainance. ZOS should be capable of returning such amount of items/gold after a proper investigation, as has done before to a friend of mine with out the need of going global.

    And why the hell they would delete a toon? Warden hate there...

    I feel they will manage to give you you your stuff back. GL.

    You are assuming that the Guild he is a GM of was the only one that was hit. Rest assured, if these people did this with one Guild, they most certainly did it with another.
    This is more than enough reason to take the servers down and fix an account exploit. Even if it was only one Guild affected. I would rather know that everyones accounts are secure than keep playing and wondering if myself or other guilds I'm in will be hit next. I don't care if it takes 10hrs to fix or 10 days.

    Lastly, it also sounds like you are the one to have a personal issue with nine9six. You don't know how many other players have been affected by this. The fact that ZOS took the servers offline so quick, does indicate this is actually a security issue as the first thing they would be checking is to see if the login servers were bypassed.
    Edited by Nebthet78 on August 16, 2017 4:37PM
    Far too many characters to list any more.
  • elfantasmo
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    Also can I have free crowns?
  • Samadhi
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    SixVoltCar wrote: »

    Lol is she viewed as some sort of genie? We're dealing with an unspeakable exploit here.

    GenieBruno?
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  • Vivecc
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    It´s that Bind on pickup - bug again :s

    i found some lousy, white level 3 Sandals, picked ´em up, but they weren´t bound. I had to do it myself :(
    pc/eu
  • DBZVelena
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    SixVoltCar wrote: »

    I fail to see why it matters when you started.

    Is it a prestige thing? Or just arbitrary "I know better than you" 's

    Mostly a prestige thing, also players who played in the beta get an in game monkey pet. But other than that I've never thought it very important.
    What are Natch Potes? Can you eat those?
    I believe in Genie-Gina.
  • Cpt_Teemo
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    DBZVelena wrote: »

    Mostly a prestige thing, also players who played in the beta get an in game monkey pet. But other than that I've never thought it very important.

    How dare you claim monkey is not important, that was the best part of the beta lol
  • InvitationNotFound
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    I have a few theories...

    @ZOS_GinaBruno could you at least stop with your "we don't disclose anything" policy when the issue has been fixed? I consider such information as quite important.
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  • SixVoltCar
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    I have a few theories...

    @ZOS_GinaBruno could you at least stop with your "we don't disclose anything" policy when the issue has been fixed? I consider such information as quite important.

    Well yeah but the issue hasn't been fixed.

    It said few more hours an hour ago in the official thread.

    Do you not enjoy a mystery? It could be anything. ANYTHING.
    Edited by SixVoltCar on August 16, 2017 4:44PM
  • DBZVelena
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    I have a few theories...

    @ZOS_GinaBruno could you at least stop with your "we don't disclose anything" policy when the issue has been fixed? I consider such information as quite important.

    except they're still fixing it. so nope no Genie-Gina for you!
    What are Natch Potes? Can you eat those?
    I believe in Genie-Gina.
  • yodased
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    I have a few theories...

    @ZOS_GinaBruno could you at least stop with your "we don't disclose anything" policy when the issue has been fixed? I consider such information as quite important.

    The problem is, if this WAS an intrusion or a player found exploit, if you tell people what it is it gives them a basis of testing parameters to break the code.

    So if you have an electric fence and they tell you that there was a break in this specific area, but it was repaired, you investigate the circumstances of that break and the repeat attacks until success.

    If you never know where that break was, you can't try to replicate it. It's a decent idea to obfuscate in these situations.

    They may tell you privately if you have some need or ability to assist, but public sharing is not wise.
    Tl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.
  • maryriv
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno I am not asking you to personally manipulate code as some claim, I am simply asking you to pass on this request. Thank you.
  • emeed
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    Guys, multiple guilds already reported that their bank was robbed.

    Maybe it was a bug in the guild permissions that got escalated really fast, maybe it's a general exploit that came into being because of the patch in general.
    Only the exploiters now. You can't expect to have the details in the open on day 1 on all public exploit boards. Probably not even on the private ones.
    Edited by emeed on August 16, 2017 4:46PM
  • OC_Justice
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    I am assuming @nine9six issue is the reason is for this down time.

    After some thought, I believe they are rolling back the servers. Some people might not even know their account was even hit. They might not know for weeks if they don't play that often or read the forums. To have to comb through countless accounts just to see the history would take days if not weeks, if that is even possible. To not restore any account that was affected would be wrong.
  • SixVoltCar
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    emeed wrote: »
    Guys, multiple guilds already reported that their bank was robbed.

    Maybe it was a bug in the guild permissions that got escalated really fast, maybe it's a general exploit that came into being because of the patch in general.
    Only the exploiters now. You can't expect to have the details in the open on day 1 on all public exploit boards. Probably not even on the private ones.

    There are exploit boards? Is that where the dark council meets?
  • Giraffon
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    They should put up a flash sale on crowns for the time the server is down.
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  • DBZVelena
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    yodased wrote: »

    The problem is, if this WAS an intrusion or a player found exploit, if you tell people what it is it gives them a basis of testing parameters to break the code.

    So if you have an electric fence and they tell you that there was a break in this specific area, but it was repaired, you investigate the circumstances of that break and the repeat attacks until success.

    If you never know where that break was, you can't try to replicate it. It's a decent idea to obfuscate in these situations.

    They may tell you privately if you have some need or ability to assist, but public sharing is not wise.

    That is very insightful, i had not considered that. But its very possible then that they won't give us any info on this exploit even after its fixed.
    We'll be left to speculate and wonder... bummer ;)
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  • richo262
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    Been 2 hours now, lan over I guess. Sigh.
  • DBZVelena
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    Giraffon wrote: »
    They should put up a flash sale on crowns for the time the server is down.

    For a limited time only, the cost of buying crowns will be 200% of what its normally, enjoy!
    What are Natch Potes? Can you eat those?
    I believe in Genie-Gina.
  • Cpt_Teemo
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    emeed wrote: »
    Guys, multiple guilds already reported that their bank was robbed.

    Maybe it was a bug in the guild permissions that got escalated really fast, maybe it's a general exploit that came into being because of the patch in general.
    Only the exploiters now. You can't expect to have the details in the open on day 1 on all public exploit boards. Probably not even on the private ones.

    Where are the other reports on the other guilds I checked forums and don't see any
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