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Linaleah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »What is the exploit please @ZOS_GinaBruno ?
Due to the nature of the exploit, we aren't able to divulge any details. That said, you can rest assured that we will be fixing it, and any accounts found to be abusing it will be taken care of.
What if you didn't do an exploit intentionally? Me and a group of friends got the no death on our first run, despite dying on the last boss countless times. We were confused as to how we even got the achievement, especially when we had someone dc at the last boss, and we got in a random, that also got the achievement.
This isn't for the no-death achievement - you're fine.
would you be able to clarify exactly what the exploit was once its fixed? please? I know, I know, curiosity killed the cat and all, but would just really like to know. don't say how it was done, just what was it that people accomplished with it.Edited by Linaleah on August 16, 2017 3:43PMdirty worthless casual.
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Luigi_Vampa✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I prefer hearing about exploits after they are fixed. Why? Because it cuts down on temptation. Nobody is tempted to try out a exploit that is already fixed. So no risk of getting banned because you were a curious Khajit and couldn't control yourself.
Side note, i hope your account gets fixed @nine9six cus that just sux. And if it means a roll back, then i really don't mind the extra time i'll have to play to get back to where i left off. Cus thats just not cool to do that to people.
The servers are down so what would be the difference between telling us now or when they are back up?PC/EU DC4 -
OC_Justice✭✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »OrphanHelgen wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »
That fix will be in the next incremental, not during this downtime.Hopefully they fix the Treasure Hunter CP while they're at it!
We certainly avoid taking the server offline during prime time, but in this case, the issue was serious enough to require us to apply a fix immediately.ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »What is the exploit please @ZOS_GinaBruno ?
Due to the nature of the exploit, we aren't able to divulge any details. That said, you can rest assured that we will be fixing it, and any accounts found to be abusing it will be taken care of.
Please explain us once again, why downtime is done only when EU prime time is nearby? Few hours for fixing some exploit? Since when applying fixes takes so much time? You need to replace whole game data at servers or what?
everything in an mmo is primetime XD
I know someone who have their playtime before work at 6 am, and someone getting up from bed at 15 pm.
That's very true. It's always tough to choose a time to do maintenance since someone will always be affected. But playing before 6am? Ouch!
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Eiagra✭✭✭✭✭Hmm. Well, I am sure you guys are hard at work getting things fixed up and will let us know if there's something actionable we as players need to be aware of once the dust has settled. In the meanwhile, this gives me ample time to make a delicious toasted egg sandwich for breakfast and do my laundry up town. We all have our errands, I guess. ██████ █████████ ███████ In verity.4 -
Feanor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭In the case a server roll back occurs I'm outright happy my last vMA run didn't yield the fabled sharpened destro.Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard StamplarAll chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.0 -
DBZVelena✭✭✭✭✭Not everybody works a 9 - 5 job. Some people work a 5 to 9 job or a 12 to 8 job or whatever. (some don't have a job and are insomniacs playing at 3 am at night ^_^;; )
Still i'm sure there are times where more people play than other times.What are Natch Potes? Can you eat those?
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SilentRaven1972✭✭✭✭Hmm. Well, I am sure you guys are hard at work getting things fixed up and will let us know if there's something actionable we as players need to be aware of once the dust has settled. In the meanwhile, this gives me ample time to make a delicious toasted egg sandwich for breakfast and do my laundry up town. We all have our errands, I guess.
And I get to be the chauffeur "Such is the nature of evil. Out there in the vast ignorance of the world, it festers and spreads. A shadow that grows in the dark. A sleepless malice as black as the oncoming wall of night. So it ever was, so will it always be. In time all foul things come forth." -Thranduil0 -
Juli'St✭✭✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »OrphanHelgen wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »
That fix will be in the next incremental, not during this downtime.Hopefully they fix the Treasure Hunter CP while they're at it!
We certainly avoid taking the server offline during prime time, but in this case, the issue was serious enough to require us to apply a fix immediately.ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »What is the exploit please @ZOS_GinaBruno ?
Due to the nature of the exploit, we aren't able to divulge any details. That said, you can rest assured that we will be fixing it, and any accounts found to be abusing it will be taken care of.
Please explain us once again, why downtime is done only when EU prime time is nearby? Few hours for fixing some exploit? Since when applying fixes takes so much time? You need to replace whole game data at servers or what?
everything in an mmo is primetime XD
I know someone who have their playtime before work at 6 am, and someone getting up from bed at 15 pm.
That's very true. It's always tough to choose a time to do maintenance since someone will always be affected. But playing before 6am? Ouch!
Ok Gina, you win...
Who knows, then, let's do this:
ZOS start to consider 'the collection' - Subscription Time - period of the game only, exclusively, when we are online?
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TeIvanni✭✭✭✭Luigi_Vampa wrote: »The servers are down so what would be the difference between telling us now or when they are back up?
Well if it was something similar to what the Great House Hlaalu (which might i add, is not the greatest of the great houses) leader was talking about, you could still mess around with people's accounts. Even if the game server is offline.
Edited by TeIvanni on August 16, 2017 3:47PM-Telvanni
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oMrRust✭✭✭✭In the case a server roll back occurs I'm outright happy my last vMA run didn't yield the fabled sharpened destro.
If a roll back happens.. I lose 225k that I had just made from a sale of a Necropotence Lightning Staff
I need that gold to use towards a mansion when I get there.. lol.1 -
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✭✭✭StackonClown wrote: »BlackbirdV wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »What is the exploit please @ZOS_GinaBruno ?
Due to the nature of the exploit, we aren't able to divulge any details. That said, you can rest assured that we will be fixing it, and any accounts found to be abusing it will be taken care of.
Any MMO server going down for unscheduled maintenance without much of a warning usually means the bug is very severe. I smell duplication bug.
They don't take servers down for duplication bugs afaik. These have been in game for weeks shortly after launch and they didn't care - not enough to take servers down for instant fix, anyway. I'd guess Crown Store because THAT they'd react to alright...or perhaps indeed something related to account security.
@ZOS_GinaBruno, I understand you're simply saying what you're allowed to say and I assume you won't be allowed to say what it is even after it's fixed, but what is the actual reasoning for this total lack of transparency? Surely if you're getting this fixed it cannot possibly harm anyone to know what it actually was.
Unless there is a law or legal requirement, there shouldn't be a reason to not be 'allowed to say' - at least in the most generic terms.. e.g. some people were found to 'get' 50 items for the price of 1 - whatever - without giving up the exploit (so people dont frantically try to discover it) and sure do this after you take the servers down.
There is no 'not allowed' - its simply a 'choose not to' because most users tolerate it and *some* would rather focus on flower or kitten memes
I meant being allowed/not allowed by her higher-ups rather than the actual laws. ZOS on the whole doesn't seem to be much on transparency/communication in general and I'd imagine community managers basically just tell the players what they're told/allowed to tell themselves, not what they personally choose to.1 -
Cpt_Teemo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭In the case a server roll back occurs I'm outright happy my last vMA run didn't yield the fabled sharpened destro.
If a roll back happens.. I lose 225k that I had just made from a sale of a Necropotence Lightning Staff
I need that gold to use towards a mansion when I get there.. lol.
Yeah i'd lose about 625k or something over night but I'd rather sacrifice those sales if it meant someone to get there 3 year progression back tbh, also means they can just go literally buy it again so all not lostEdited by Cpt_Teemo on August 16, 2017 3:49PM13 -
DBZVelena✭✭✭✭✭Luigi_Vampa wrote: »I prefer hearing about exploits after they are fixed. Why? Because it cuts down on temptation. Nobody is tempted to try out a exploit that is already fixed. So no risk of getting banned because you were a curious Khajit and couldn't control yourself.
Side note, i hope your account gets fixed @nine9six cus that just sux. And if it means a roll back, then i really don't mind the extra time i'll have to play to get back to where i left off. Cus thats just not cool to do that to people.
The servers are down so what would be the difference between telling us now or when they are back up?
Well, that might depend on if it really is about a server roll back or not. Since account stealing is mostly done by gold sellers. And those you do not want to warn ahead of time that you're cracking down on their key accounts before you can do some real serious damage. of the type that will cost them actual money instead of in game gold.What are Natch Potes? Can you eat those?
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StackonClown✭✭✭✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »What is the exploit please @ZOS_GinaBruno ?
Due to the nature of the exploit, we aren't able to divulge any details. That said, you can rest assured that we will be fixing it, and any accounts found to be abusing it will be taken care of.
What if you didn't do an exploit intentionally? Me and a group of friends got the no death on our first run, despite dying on the last boss countless times. We were confused as to how we even got the achievement, especially when we had someone dc at the last boss, and we got in a random, that also got the achievement.
This isn't for the no-death achievement - you're fine.
would you be able to clarify exactly what the exploit was once its fixed? please? I know, I know, curiosity killed the cat and all, but would just really like to know. don't say how it was done, just what was it that people accomplished with it.
Dont bother asking - all of these posts are being ignored and the 'light banter' ones are being responded to.
Further, we should also be told how many bans were issued.
I'm checking with a few contacts and most are certain they know what it is - not very impressed - dang those cheaterz!Edited by StackonClown on August 16, 2017 3:48PM0 -
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✭To touch on what I was saying...for the dude up there that thinks it's a personal attack.
They kicked people in the Guild to make room for their other accounts to get added to our Guild. We're always at capacity, so have to kick to invite.
They promoted other accounts to speed-up the purge of the Bank and to gain access to the Bank, as only Officers have access (good time to touch base on the Guild Overhaul ESO so desperately needs!).
They at least had the decency to re-promote me to GM (LOL) and our Officers. Shame they kicked a few OG Beta / Psijic Order members when they were making room. ***...
They also bought Crown Crates and unlocked some mounts. In my original ticket, I noted that behavior as a method to prove it wasn't me. I cannot stand Crown Crates. haha
They also deleted a Warden of mine. Not sure why. I suspect their main is a Templar and they're still bitter about Major Mending and Blazing Spear Stun.
Passwords have been changed, also.Wake up, we're here. Why are you shaking? Are you ok? Wake up...13 -
UrbanMonk✭✭✭✭✭
✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »AcadianPaladin wrote: »Gina has a thread up on this in the Maintenance Announcements section - https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/366588/pc-mac-na-eu-downtime-8-16-10-40am-edt#latest
That said, not everyone looks there without a reason so I think having a thread here in General is a great idea.
That's why I did it. I wasn't just trying to be stupid or annoying.
It's ok. This can be a good place to chat in the meantime.
Yeah! Let's chat about it.
So what was the exploit again????Urban.Monk
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GCVDJ11T✭✭✭✭Edited by GCVDJ11T on August 16, 2017 4:05PM4 -
SixVoltCar✭✭✭No rollbacks unless absolutely necessary. I played a lot this morning and I'm not inclined to resub if these localized exploits and incidents can't be locally reversed.3
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JasonSilverSpring✭✭✭✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »OrphanHelgen wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »
That fix will be in the next incremental, not during this downtime.Hopefully they fix the Treasure Hunter CP while they're at it!
We certainly avoid taking the server offline during prime time, but in this case, the issue was serious enough to require us to apply a fix immediately.ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »What is the exploit please @ZOS_GinaBruno ?
Due to the nature of the exploit, we aren't able to divulge any details. That said, you can rest assured that we will be fixing it, and any accounts found to be abusing it will be taken care of.
Please explain us once again, why downtime is done only when EU prime time is nearby? Few hours for fixing some exploit? Since when applying fixes takes so much time? You need to replace whole game data at servers or what?
everything in an mmo is primetime XD
I know someone who have their playtime before work at 6 am, and someone getting up from bed at 15 pm.
That's very true. It's always tough to choose a time to do maintenance since someone will always be affected. But playing before 6am? Ouch!
Hey! Don't knock it till you try it.
I get up at 4:30 am and play till 6 am before getting ready for work. Sometimes that is the only time I get to play.
I am on the East coast and often find West coast players doing a late night play. They say good night and I reply good morning. LOL8 -
WyndStryke✭✭✭... but atleast its not like eve-online when they found a large exploit the servers were instantly shut down with no warning. So at least you got a warning.:)
If it is an account hijacking issue as speculated, then perhaps it would have been better to just immediately shut down without warning.
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Sheyta✭✭✭I never encounter any exploit from 1990's
I dont know what people realy do are they playing a game or are they trying to crack the servers?
Well there was a item bug on time in eve online but that was ccp's error and I think I got to keep it as
memory by ccp
And there was some error in a sql server on ED and we got to keep it
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Sheyta✭✭✭Even better: just one exploit. Normal downtime is already a few hours, so why does it take another few hours to fix one little thing?
This is ZOS - Their on/off switch is RNG based, so they only have a 1 in 6 million chance of getting the result they want whenever they press it. They are thinking about introducing a token system to make it faster, but there's no ETA yet.
HAHAHA
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UrbanMonk✭✭✭✭✭
✭It can't be no death achv in new dungeon as last dungeon exploit of last boss farming or scaling dungeons took a whole new patch to fix...so that's out of window...Urban.Monk
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-Hot Nöödle- MagDK - AVA37
-Pablo Necrobar- StamCro- AVA24
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Linaleah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭StackonClown wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »What is the exploit please @ZOS_GinaBruno ?
Due to the nature of the exploit, we aren't able to divulge any details. That said, you can rest assured that we will be fixing it, and any accounts found to be abusing it will be taken care of.
What if you didn't do an exploit intentionally? Me and a group of friends got the no death on our first run, despite dying on the last boss countless times. We were confused as to how we even got the achievement, especially when we had someone dc at the last boss, and we got in a random, that also got the achievement.
This isn't for the no-death achievement - you're fine.
would you be able to clarify exactly what the exploit was once its fixed? please? I know, I know, curiosity killed the cat and all, but would just really like to know. don't say how it was done, just what was it that people accomplished with it.
Dont bother asking - all of these posts are being ignored and the 'light banter' ones are being responded to.
Further, we should also be told how many bans were issued.
I'm checking with a few contacts and most are certain they know what it is - not very impressed - dang those cheaterz!
could you pm me then? curiosity is a failing of mine
I'm cool if pm comes after servers are back up and exploit is fixed, in case ZOS doesn't reveal what it was. dirty worthless casual.
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Cpt_Teemo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I never encounter any exploit from 1990's
I dont know what people realy do are they playing a game or are they trying to crack the servers?
Well there was a item bug on time in eve online but that was ccp's error and I think I got to keep it as
memory by ccp
And there was some error in a sql server on ED and we got to keep it
it's only a game not irl issues
You do realize people put "Time" into playing games, and also not to mention they're is very personal information most of the time on those games you don't want others to know about, so don't go there ever about "It's only a game not Irl issues" it definitely is a "RL issue"5 -
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✭✭✭JasonSilverSpring wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »OrphanHelgen wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »
That fix will be in the next incremental, not during this downtime.Hopefully they fix the Treasure Hunter CP while they're at it!
We certainly avoid taking the server offline during prime time, but in this case, the issue was serious enough to require us to apply a fix immediately.ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »What is the exploit please @ZOS_GinaBruno ?
Due to the nature of the exploit, we aren't able to divulge any details. That said, you can rest assured that we will be fixing it, and any accounts found to be abusing it will be taken care of.
Please explain us once again, why downtime is done only when EU prime time is nearby? Few hours for fixing some exploit? Since when applying fixes takes so much time? You need to replace whole game data at servers or what?
everything in an mmo is primetime XD
I know someone who have their playtime before work at 6 am, and someone getting up from bed at 15 pm.
That's very true. It's always tough to choose a time to do maintenance since someone will always be affected. But playing before 6am? Ouch!
Hey! Don't knock it till you try it.
I get up at 4:30 am and play till 6 am before getting ready for work. Sometimes that is the only time I get to play.
I am on the East coast and often find West coast players doing a late night play. They say good night and I reply good morning. LOL
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DBZVelena✭✭✭✭✭SixVoltCar wrote: »No rollbacks unless absolutely necessary. I played a lot this morning and I'm not inclined to resub if these localized exploits and incidents can't be locally reversed.
Really? Somebody lost 3,5 years worth of progress possibly because of an exploit but boohoo if you have to re-do some hours of play. Selfish much?What are Natch Potes? Can you eat those?
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✭Status update - Still a few more hours. So now 3 hours.
... and we are lanning, specifically planned on a day without maint.0 -
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✭Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »I never encounter any exploit from 1990's
I dont know what people realy do are they playing a game or are they trying to crack the servers?
Well there was a item bug on time in eve online but that was ccp's error and I think I got to keep it as
memory by ccp
And there was some error in a sql server on ED and we got to keep it
it's only a game not irl issues
You do realize people put "Time" into playing games, and also not to mention they're is very personal information most of the time on those games you don't want others to know about, so don't go there ever about "It's only a game not Irl issues" it definitely is a "RL issue"
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Juli'St✭✭✭✭This question nobody has done before in the whole history of ESO:
Will there be compensation for this extended downtime?
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