Maintenance for the week of January 6:
• PC/Mac: No maintenance – January 6
• NA megaservers for maintenance – January 8, 4:00AM EST (9:00 UTC) - 8:00AM EST (13:00 UTC)
• EU megaservers for maintenance – January 8, 9:00 UTC (4:00AM EST) - 13:00 UTC (8:00AM EST)
• PC/Mac: No maintenance – January 6
• NA megaservers for maintenance – January 8, 4:00AM EST (9:00 UTC) - 8:00AM EST (13:00 UTC)
• EU megaservers for maintenance – January 8, 9:00 UTC (4:00AM EST) - 13:00 UTC (8:00AM EST)
Server Down again, for a few hours, in 10 mins.
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Tandor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭If the rumors on what this exploit was is true then it's huge and absolutely warrants immediate downtime for a fix.
Agreed, and they may not even have a fix yet but have simply closed the servers down for damage limitation. Only when they have a fix and have run it through QA will they be in a position to give an estimate on when the servers will come back up.1 -
Bosov✭✭✭✭✭omg zos what have you done i went outside and this yellow thing in the sky blinded me and it felt weird on my skin help what is this i cant even find the . on my keyboard anymore im blaming you zos
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kagorsa✭✭✭To touch on what I was saying...for the dude up there that thinks it's a personal attack.
They kicked people in the Guild to make room for their other accounts to get added to our Guild. We're always at capacity, so have to kick to invite.
They promoted other accounts to speed-up the purge of the Bank and to gain access to the Bank, as only Officers have access (good time to touch base on the Guild Overhaul ESO so desperately needs!).
They at least had the decency to re-promote me to GM (LOL) and our Officers. Shame they kicked a few OG Beta / Psijic Order members when they were making room. ***...
They also bought Crown Crates and unlocked some mounts. In my original ticket, I noted that behavior as a method to prove it wasn't me. I cannot stand Crown Crates. haha
They also deleted a Warden of mine. Not sure why. I suspect their main is a Templar and they're still bitter about Major Mending and Blazing Spear Stun.
Passwords have been changed, also.
Last year two companies got hacked, yes I know lots did. but these two hold information for lots of other companies, so the pyramid effect stats to appear, but I only got told this year in febuary, & the thieves got my details & managed to get into some games I play and other accounts like mmorpg. I got all the accounts back very fast & now I have very strong passwords each different each long and complicated, sadly there are still sites that don't allow special characters.Barbed wire has so many uses. Please bear in mind I have writing Dyslexia & I use Grammarly to help me type.0 -
Mureel✭✭✭✭✭
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Agree! Ran the gamut of calm yer tittenbooben to call a Doctor! Decided to post nothing xD
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Can't decide if explain or smh and lol! You're welcome.1 -
Huyen✭✭✭✭✭
✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »OrphanHelgen wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »
That fix will be in the next incremental, not during this downtime.Hopefully they fix the Treasure Hunter CP while they're at it!
We certainly avoid taking the server offline during prime time, but in this case, the issue was serious enough to require us to apply a fix immediately.ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »What is the exploit please @ZOS_GinaBruno ?
Due to the nature of the exploit, we aren't able to divulge any details. That said, you can rest assured that we will be fixing it, and any accounts found to be abusing it will be taken care of.
Please explain us once again, why downtime is done only when EU prime time is nearby? Few hours for fixing some exploit? Since when applying fixes takes so much time? You need to replace whole game data at servers or what?
everything in an mmo is primetime XD
I know someone who have their playtime before work at 6 am, and someone getting up from bed at 15 pm.
That's very true. It's always tough to choose a time to do maintenance since someone will always be affected. But playing before 6am? Ouch!
I agree that you cant keep everyone happy, but I think that we (the players in Europe that is) would be really really thankfull if you consider moving the downtime for European Server to a time that is more suited for our timezones, instead of doing everything at once.Huyen Shadowpaw, dedicated nightblade tank - PS4 (Retired)
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InvitationNotFound✭✭✭✭✭
✭InvitationNotFound wrote: »I have a few theories...
@ZOS_GinaBruno could you at least stop with your "we don't disclose anything" policy when the issue has been fixed? I consider such information as quite important.
The problem is, if this WAS an intrusion or a player found exploit, if you tell people what it is it gives them a basis of testing parameters to break the code.
So if you have an electric fence and they tell you that there was a break in this specific area, but it was repaired, you investigate the circumstances of that break and the repeat attacks until success.
If you never know where that break was, you can't try to replicate it. It's a decent idea to obfuscate in these situations.
They may tell you privately if you have some need or ability to assist, but public sharing is not wise.
Yes, that's called security through obscurity and hasn't anything to do with security at all.
There were several exploits that were fixed but people found ways to exploit the issues again. So let us see to what this may lead:
- The people who exploited the issue previously know where to look.
- The people who would report the issue have no idea that there might be an issue with something.
Keeping such information away from the community doesn't help at all in my opinion. (Besides the fact we're dealing here with ZOS, which means chances bug reports are read are small anyway)
Just as an example against what you wrote above, when we're dealing with security. You know what CVE is or what NVD (nvd.nist.gov) is?
Vulnerabilities which have been made public. Mostly by the companies themselves or by the researcher who found the issue. According to your logic this would be a bad thing as people could try to break the same thing again. As you might have guessed by now, you're wrong.We want firing off Dark Exchange in the middle of combat to feel awesome... - The Wrobler
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Concret✭✭✭What about making a permanent and non modifiable title for exploiters (in case of non perma ban) ?2 -
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✭Could you fix Critical Charge aka Loading Screen Magnet while you're at it? Thank you.1 -
Nogawd✭✭✭✭✭No wonder why I rarely visit these forums.
The geek/nerd whiner has to be the worst type of whiner. So entitled. Such big babies.3 -
SixVoltCar✭✭✭[/quote]
I agree that you cant keep everyone happy, but I think that we (the players in Europe that is) would be really really thankfull if you consider moving the downtime for European Server to a time that is more suited for our timezones, instead of doing everything at once.[/quote]
It appears to be an emergency-- they're aware of this and gave little notice across the board.1 -
zsban✭✭✭✭InvitationNotFound wrote: »I have a few theories...
@ZOS_GinaBruno could you at least stop with your "we don't disclose anything" policy when the issue has been fixed? I consider such information as quite important.
The problem is, if this WAS an intrusion or a player found exploit, if you tell people what it is it gives them a basis of testing parameters to break the code.
So if you have an electric fence and they tell you that there was a break in this specific area, but it was repaired, you investigate the circumstances of that break and the repeat attacks until success.
If you never know where that break was, you can't try to replicate it. It's a decent idea to obfuscate in these situations.
They may tell you privately if you have some need or ability to assist, but public sharing is not wise.
Security by obscurity is never a good tactic. It's just a matter of time until someone else finds a similar (yet unfixed) bug. Imho it's better to encourage people to test it on PTS and give rewards for ones who finds a new exploit. Reward that makes it worth sharing with ZOS instead of abusing it for personal gains.
You're assuming people who would find the bug on PST would not be silent about it for personal gain. You like to believe all people are good and honest, don't ya.
It works fairly well for Google, and not so well for Apple - main difference being in the value of their reward vs. the worth of the exploit on the black market.0 -
Wildcopper✭✭I have no complains about taking down the servers to stop and fix an exploit.
What I find very annoying though is the servers being taken down every week during European daytime hours for maintenance.
This company should take example of companies like Blizzard, where the weekly maintenance happens during the very early morning times of the respective world regions.2 -
kagorsa✭✭✭Well if you think you are entitled to compensation you should read the agreement you agreed to before logging in.What about making a permanent and non modifiable title for exploiters (in case of non perma ban) ?
CCP did that once in eve many years ago when they still had the guts to stand up and name & shame. sadly companies won't do that anymore.Barbed wire has so many uses. Please bear in mind I have writing Dyslexia & I use Grammarly to help me type.1 -
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✭So.. um... the PTS is at least up.
I guess it says a lot when I would rather play on ESO's PTS than another MMO's live game... Edited by TerraDewBerry on August 16, 2017 5:26PM5 -
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Pops_ND_Irish✭✭✭✭✭stevepdodson_ESO888 wrote: »it's probably not an exploit...i bet they have just found some other way to scam people out of their money
Ya right !Another genius !0 -
SixVoltCar✭✭✭Wildcopper wrote: »I have no complains about taking down the servers to stop and fix an exploit.
What I find very annoying though is the servers being taken down every week during European daytime hours for maintenance.
This company should take example of companies like Blizzard, where the weekly maintenance happens during the very early morning times of the respective world regions.
So you have no complaints relating to this instance, you mean.1 -
GCVDJ11T✭✭✭✭thatlaurachick wrote: »
Oh not for the servers being down...... for farming ayleid furnishing plans 0 -
ZOS_GinaBrunoCommunity ManagerJust posted in the main thread, but we're looking at at least two more hours.2 -
Juli'St✭✭✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Just posted in the main thread, but we're looking at at least two more hours.
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✭thatlaurachick wrote: »
Oh not for the servers being down...... for farming ayleid furnishing plans
What ayleid furnishing plans? What did I miss?Urban.Monk
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SixVoltCar✭✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Just posted in the main thread, but we're looking at at least two more hours.
Acknowledged, banter resumes.1 -
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✭✭✭✭thatlaurachick wrote: »
No, he's talking about trying to get Ayelid plans - read what he was quoting.GM - Ghost Sea Trading Co - NA PC
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kagorsa✭✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Just posted in the main thread, but we're looking at at least two more hours.
you gotta do what's needed just remember you will now need a tinfoil hat. Barbed wire has so many uses. Please bear in mind I have writing Dyslexia & I use Grammarly to help me type.0 -
emeedSoul ShrivenKyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »Guys, multiple guilds already reported that their bank was robbed.
Maybe it was a bug in the guild permissions that got escalated really fast, maybe it's a general exploit that came into being because of the patch in general.
Only the exploiters now. You can't expect to have the details in the open on day 1 on all public exploit boards. Probably not even on the private ones.
Where are the other reports on the other guilds I checked forums and don't see any
You just checked all forums of all guilds on ESO?
You're really fast.
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