We want our Cyrodill back!!! (PC EU)

Joy_Division · September 2018

Ormtunge wrote: »

When I began playing this game in the very beginning, you had to choose your alliance and stick with it. The pvp in Cyrodill was full of players fighting for their alliances, and there was a very positive pvp enviroment for new players.

With a faction/alliance lock for the entire campaign, I belive we will get a very much more positive and larger pvp-population in Cyrodill. We will get rid of the worst trolls and alliance hoppers and get a more vibrant and including alliance population. I belive this will bring back alot of old players that quit/took a break (like me),

We want our Cyrodill back!!!

Poor performance
Frustrating class balance
Too many friends/guildmates left because of above

After that, ZOS needs to incentivize and make it so players want to stick with a faction, in spite of friends and greener pastures elsewhere, rather than forcing them to stick with a commitment they might quickly regret or not want to carry out. Having an actual reward for winning and being high on the leaderboards is probably where I'd start. But none of this will matter is the lag is terrrible, people think their main is trash, and population imbalance/nightcapping, makes the time people do play meaningless.

Ormtunge · September 2018

Joy_Division wrote: »

OP sorcs, emp trading shenanigans, whining about zergs, mad as hack about lag, alliance saboteurs/traitors, it's all the same.
It's almost like people just look for common things to complain about and blame for their frustrations. Zos can make rules, faction locks, change AP scoring, but it cannot change selfishness and poor sportsmanship.

Trolls will be trolls, and a faction lock isn;t going to stop them or slow them down, because they are trolls. Now you're forcing these trolls to play on a campaign with people they don;t want to and you all of a sudden think they want be spying, turning people's sieges around, delivering scrolls to their cross-faction friends, trading emps on the population imbalanced dead campaigns you are going to create, etc.? But why bother looking at history when nostalgia is so much more comforting?

I never said that Cyrodil was perfect before, but I still think that the pvp enviroment was better than now. And you are completely right that some players will still troll and cheat even with a faction lock, but I think a faction lock would REDUCE this kind of behaviour. And that is really all we can do. I also think ZOZ should punish cheaters harder, but that is maybe another discussion.

Joy_Division wrote: »

If you want PvP to have meaningful AvA, ZOS need to address the three most common reasons people leave
Poor performance

Frustrating class balance

Too many friends/guildmates left because of above

After that, ZOS needs to incentivize and make it so players want to stick with a faction, in spite of friends and greener pastures elsewhere, rather than forcing them to stick with a commitment they might quickly regret or not want to carry out. Having an actual reward for winning and being high on the leaderboards is probably where I'd start. But none of this will matter is the lag is terrrible, people think their main is trash, and population imbalance/nightcapping, makes the time people do play meaningless.

I agree that the lag can be annoying at times, but in my experience that is not what makes pvpers quit. I belive it is the lack of oppertunity to pvp for an alliance and a team, and the feeling of contributing. In this last aspect I fully agree that population impalance and nightcapping is a serious problem that needs to be delt with. I think a faction lock would make it abit better, since then people cant change alliance to the atm dominating faction, but there should also be some other system to help with this issue. Maybe make it so the population bonus was negative for the dominating alliance (like when one faction take all the map at night)?

I also agree with you that ZOZ need to reward those that contribute to their alliiance winning more.

Universe · September 2018

@ZOS_BrianWheeler Please implement a campaign alliance lock in Update 20 so there will be less treason and more loyalty to one alliance.
The community have asked for this many times, but sadly you choose to ignore this.

Vivecc · September 2018

What´s a *** Alliance to choose good for, if the player can just switch it at any time ?
PvP (AvAvA) without any loyality makes just no sense.
If you want to just fight and FARM (!) AP, go battlegrounds.
A proper PvP environment should have SOME RULES all have to play with.

And whatever the posts from times long past tell, it was for sure not perfect, but it WAS BETTER TIMES.
That from someone who actually played since the beginning.

I stopped a few weeks ago, and im just taking a peek in forum….
And i dont come back into the game until some major improvements to PvP happened.

Tbh i doubt that this will ever happen, cuz all i experienced so far is a slow degradation of overall game mechanics (constant influx of new sets, skill changes and the resultits of that, and countless bugs with every new content update)

Ormtunge · September 2018

Vivecc wrote: »

What´s a *** Alliance to choose good for, if the player can just switch it at any time ?
PvP (AvAvA) without any loyality makes just no sense.
If you want to just fight and FARM (!) AP, go battlegrounds.
A proper PvP environment should have SOME RULES all have to play with.

And whatever the posts from times long past tell, it was for sure not perfect, but it WAS BETTER TIMES.
That from someone who actually played since the beginning.

I stopped a few weeks ago, and im just taking a peek in forum….
And i dont come back into the game until some major improvements to PvP happened.

I have to agree. And there are many more like us. I personally think that a faction/alliance lock of some kind would BOTH help recruit new players to Cyrodil and incourage former pvpers to return. And as said MANY times before... it wont solve all the problems in Cyrodil, but it is a great first step:).

Ormtunge · April 2019

Raammzzaa wrote: »

I completely agree with all of your points. However, if you think ZOS will make these changes, and that is the only way you are going to play again... See ya!

Ai ai ai:) A little bird whispered to me that some nice changes would be coming after all:) I will probably be back by easter:)
I dont know how it will play out, like any of u, but atm: Good going ZOS!:)

ChefZero · April 2019

The coming of faction lock is good but ZOS also have to encourage player to play the map and for the faction. Otherwise its just a bandaid or will cause other problems.

InvictusApollo · April 2019

We already had facttion lock and it lead us to campaigns being dominated by one faction only. Don't you remember?
This is the worst way to stop cheating.

If someone takes the scroll and delivers it to enemies, that person should be reported and get banned. If these things actually happen then it is obvious that reporting system is flawed.

Itzmichi · April 2019

Ah, I see what you did there. Just opened a portal to the plains of oblivion itself to get this thread back, naughty boy! 😏

Ormtunge · April 2019

ChefZero wrote: »

The coming of faction lock is good but ZOS also have to encourage player to play the map and for the faction. Otherwise its just a bandaid or will cause other problems.

Personally I think a faction lock will in part increase players motivation to both play the map and for the faction, since when a group of players play alongside each other for a longer period of time, it usally increases team spirit and a feeling of unity.

I also think this feeling of unity will increase the number of new pvpers, as the inviroment becomes less toxic and more welcoming:)

But of course it wont fix everything. Ideally we should have some kind of functional population cap/moderator also. To make sure no faction get a to large advantage number wise at any given time (maybe like no more than 50% of total population or face sever negative boost).

As for..

InvictusApollo wrote: »

We already had facttion lock and it lead us to campaigns being dominated by one faction only. Don't you remember?
This is the worst way to stop cheating.

If someone takes the scroll and delivers it to enemies, that person should be reported and get banned. If these things actually happen then it is obvious that reporting system is flawed.

..I do remember what it was like when faction lock was working in the beginning, and I actually remember it as better than the faction uneveness at the moment I took a break (maybe 6-8 months ago). But this time we also get some campaigns not faction locked, so I think it should please most players.

I can ofc not know how it will play out, but I am feeling positive for the first time in a long while:)