killerintheline9 wrote: »killerintheline9 wrote: »
This i wonder ,and agree. but still i get regular macro deaths on cyrodiil.
Not sure what you aren't understanding about this but there is a skill delay and unless you are very slow, you can easily press all the required buttons within each skill delay or you could call it animation window. The only thing a macro will give you is the best speed of light attack into instant skill into block/bash and that is just as easy to accomplish without a macro. No matter what, there is a set delay between the timing of that chain of abilities and when you can do the next one. For example in the screen shot you posted, there are only four animation windows (activating Solar Prison, casting Unstable, and two Fire Ring casts) and two of them were precast so there are only two animation windows showing on the death recap and they are the two casts of Fire Ring. No matter what macros this guy had running, he did not cast those four spells faster than anyone else could considering people without macros can easily pre-load the next spell, making it fire as soon as the animation time would allow it.
Basically what looks to me that happened is you're a vamp or have very very low spell resist and went and jumped in some Templar's Unstable Wall AOE while they had Solar Prison running and were spamming Fire Ring attacks. Macros did not have anything to do with it, if they were used at all.
I might just have to agree with you. Thank you for proper answer and proper way to reason your fact
Edit : At least now there should not be any wrong thoughts out there. With or without macros you still die on 2-3 seconds if you are state 1 vampire with max fire res and with 2000 spell resistance.
Outcome: I wont play on cyrodiil, more fun to you guys, like that other guy said,
i to go eat some macro-oni and cheese.
I use the macro program on my Razer products in order to make it easy to use potions.
When I press a button on my mouse, Greymind add-on swaps to the potion I need, and it automatically presses Q afterward to use it.
I suppose I may get banned for it due to angry players, but it's still a better option than using the Q-Wheel.
I use the macro program on my Razer products in order to make it easy to use potions.
When I press a button on my mouse, Greymind add-on swaps to the potion I need, and it automatically presses Q afterward to use it.
I suppose I may get banned for it due to angry players, but it's still a better option than using the Q-Wheel.
To be fair, the potion implementation is incredibly stupid. It should simply use a potion when you select it from the wheel, without having to hit the button again. The wheel should immediately come up, and if you don't go in a direction it just uses the last potion (as it does now). If you want the ability to abort using a potion, just leave a spot on the wheel blank.
I use the macro program on my Razer products in order to make it easy to use potions.
When I press a button on my mouse, Greymind add-on swaps to the potion I need, and it automatically presses Q afterward to use it.
I suppose I may get banned for it due to angry players, but it's still a better option than using the Q-Wheel.
To be fair, the potion implementation is incredibly stupid. It should simply use a potion when you select it from the wheel, without having to hit the button again. The wheel should immediately come up, and if you don't go in a direction it just uses the last potion (as it does now). If you want the ability to abort using a potion, just leave a spot on the wheel blank.
Yeah, the Q-Wheel was a pretty poor decision for this game mechanic.
I get that it's supposed to be more suited to the console release (when that finally happens) but I'm used to simply slotting my MMO potions on F1 and onward, and activating them at a push of the button.
I'm so glad Greymind is available to provide programmable hotkeys.
I use the macro program on my Razer products in order to make it easy to use potions.
When I press a button on my mouse, Greymind add-on swaps to the potion I need, and it automatically presses Q afterward to use it.
I suppose I may get banned for it due to angry players, but it's still a better option than using the Q-Wheel.
Macros can not make abilities fire off any faster than if you pressed them yourself. Macros hurt yourself in pvp because you can't adapt on the fly.
OrangeTheCat wrote: »But isn't that what people mean by "skill" in a video game? Macros?
killerintheline9 wrote: »Macros can not make abilities fire off any faster than if you pressed them yourself. Macros hurt yourself in pvp because you can't adapt on the fly.
That is false information with right componation its always faster than you would press it yourself, and it completely removes chance for human error, it is faster way to cast, and that is not fair play.
vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »killerintheline9 wrote: »Macros can not make abilities fire off any faster than if you pressed them yourself. Macros hurt yourself in pvp because you can't adapt on the fly.
That is false information with right componation its always faster than you would press it yourself, and it completely removes chance for human error, it is faster way to cast, and that is not fair play.
I disagree. Some people are faster and better then me. That is an unfair way to play. The only fair way to play would be if we all used macros. So get on board!
killerintheline9 wrote: »vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »killerintheline9 wrote: »Macros can not make abilities fire off any faster than if you pressed them yourself. Macros hurt yourself in pvp because you can't adapt on the fly.
That is false information with right componation its always faster than you would press it yourself, and it completely removes chance for human error, it is faster way to cast, and that is not fair play.
I disagree. Some people are faster and better then me. That is an unfair way to play. The only fair way to play would be if we all used macros. So get on board!
No that is fair fight it is your own problem if you are slow, you need practice tactic. not exploit with macros. so your way to think is, to go to fair fist fight with M4A2 or M16? What are you trying to tell, that you always disagree to everything just of joy of diagree? if you make comment like that, At least try to state your reason to write like that what you just did. other than that i just take it as nonsense.
The TOS already appears to prohibit this. That's why you can't build an addon that does stuff like this. What else are they supposed to do?
AshySamurai wrote: »I dont mind if someone uses macros. Why not? TBH I'm dont use it, but I could. First of all, we have only 6 skills. Not so much to use macros. And you dont use ultimate all time, so now we have 5 skills that we use all time (+ swap). I dont feel like I need it. But if someone want to use it - again why not?
And one more thing. If your macros "press buttons" to fast/often - you'll get kick from server. That was happend when I experimented whith quick slot wheel. So current system pretty fair for me.
killerintheline9 wrote: »vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »killerintheline9 wrote: »Macros can not make abilities fire off any faster than if you pressed them yourself. Macros hurt yourself in pvp because you can't adapt on the fly.
That is false information with right componation its always faster than you would press it yourself, and it completely removes chance for human error, it is faster way to cast, and that is not fair play.
I disagree. Some people are faster and better then me. That is an unfair way to play. The only fair way to play would be if we all used macros. So get on board!
No that is fair fight it is your own problem if you are slow, you need practice tactic. not exploit with macros.
Circuitous wrote: »...is there even a need to bother with macros for skill usage? It's not exactly a difficult thing to manage already. Even attack and block cancelling are extremely easy to do.
No offense, but do you have any proof that macros are a serious issue in PvP currently? It sounds like you're desperate for something to blame.
killerintheline9 wrote: »vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »killerintheline9 wrote: »Macros can not make abilities fire off any faster than if you pressed them yourself. Macros hurt yourself in pvp because you can't adapt on the fly.
That is false information with right componation its always faster than you would press it yourself, and it completely removes chance for human error, it is faster way to cast, and that is not fair play.
I disagree. Some people are faster and better then me. That is an unfair way to play. The only fair way to play would be if we all used macros. So get on board!
No that is fair fight it is your own problem if you are slow, you need practice tactic. not exploit with macros.
Being able to click a button fast isn't tactics. I'm not even sure I'd call it skill. If the game frequently comes down to who can click a button faster, then it's a bad game.
I'd would have argued that the macro's currently possible are probably technically legal, since they don't offer a noticeable advantage. Sure, you may be able to animation cancel 1/100th of a second faster. Big friggin' whoop. That isn't going to be the deciding factor in who wins. A gaming mouse/keypad is probably far more of an advantage, and they sure aren't going to go after you for that. So I *personally* don't care if somebody wants to use macros for whatever reason.
That said, I did notice that the ToS has changed from what I remember, it now says "You agree not to use any hardware or software or any other method of support that is not authorized by ZeniMax or that may in any way influence or advantage Your playing abilities", which seems... over reaching. A quality mouse with more buttons/better DPI and a keypad (which is in fact what I use) is going to "influence" (or advantage, for that matter) your playing abilities over somebody on a tablet with no keyboard. Seems like they changed the ToS such that they can pretty much go after any player if they decide they want to..
killerintheline9 wrote: »This i wonder ,and agree. but still i get regular macro deaths on cyrodiil.