Sotha Sil (EU PC)

Trashs1

DivineFirstYOLO wrote: »

Trashs1 wrote: »

and we all know that potato farming dc guild on senju^^ ... this guys actually never do something for the fraction

Good old Covenant, where people blame and hate each other. How about we get our AD chars ready and teach you how to play for the campaign? What will be left when we don't play with the main zergs any more? Will you still be able to PvDoor once the zergs arrive and keeps are actually defended? I guess we will see very soon & I hope you DDK wannabes won't log off the moment you see us.

well, sereously apologies.. didnt want offend u guys since we need on dc every sword who can kill a red guy...

laksikus

Thraben wrote: »

laksikus wrote: »

Its quite funny how the main DC zerg thinks a little 12 men group can help them do what a 50 men pug dc zerg cant^^
Guess thats called a l2p issue

Little? Every blue guild group has 7-14 on Sotha, and always have. And every of them makes a difference. Besides, why do you even think he meant you? You weren't there. Everyone farms at Sej sooner or later, some maybe sooner and some maybe later. You are almost the only hope for players who can't join one of the 4 german TS
and the 2 French speaking groups, and I regularly recommend you to players who I am forced to reject because of the language.

Though I like having more organized enemy groups (so I can win with casuals against progress oriented groups which is a nice challenge), it would be horrible to have so few international guilds on Sotha's Blue side.

Yes little.

Of course little. It doesnt count as small guild group if there are 3 guilds zerging an objective together^^

If we wouldnt play for fun we wouldnt play at all and DC still wouldnt be stronger.
Funny enough someone in zone still starts to blame us when the whole faction follows our juicy tick to brk^^

CoachPower

laksikus wrote: »

Thraben wrote: »

laksikus wrote: »

Its quite funny how the main DC zerg thinks a little 12 men group can help them do what a 50 men pug dc zerg cant^^
Guess thats called a l2p issue

Little? Every blue guild group has 7-14 on Sotha, and always have. And every of them makes a difference. Besides, why do you even think he meant you? You weren't there. Everyone farms at Sej sooner or later, some maybe sooner and some maybe later. You are almost the only hope for players who can't join one of the 4 german TS
and the 2 French speaking groups, and I regularly recommend you to players who I am forced to reject because of the language.

Though I like having more organized enemy groups (so I can win with casuals against progress oriented groups which is a nice challenge), it would be horrible to have so few international guilds on Sotha's Blue side.

Yes little.

Of course little. It doesnt count as small guild group if there are 3 guilds zerging an objective together^^

If we wouldnt play for fun we wouldnt play at all and DC still wouldnt be stronger.
Funny enough someone in zone still starts to blame us when the whole faction follows our juicy tick to brk^^

Lol.. I wonder who

ordraveeb17_ESO

Thraben wrote: »

laksikus wrote: »

Its quite funny how the main DC zerg thinks a little 12 men group can help them do what a 50 men pug dc zerg cant^^
Guess thats called a l2p issue

Little? Every blue guild group has 7-14 on Sotha, and always have. And every of them makes a difference. Besides, why do you even think he meant you? You weren't there. Everyone farms at Sej sooner or later, some maybe sooner and some maybe later. You are almost the only hope for players who can't join one of the 4 german TS
and the 2 French speaking groups, and I regularly recommend you to players who I am forced to reject because of the language.

Though I like having more organized enemy groups (so I can win with casuals against progress oriented groups which is a nice challenge), it would be horrible to have so few international guilds on Sotha's Blue side.

LOL ))) Sexy don't want to play in lag + they want points))) and don't forget at Sotha it's strongest DC guild atm. How they want, so they play... it's their choice.

Thraben

laksikus wrote: »

Thraben wrote: »

laksikus wrote: »

Its quite funny how the main DC zerg thinks a little 12 men group can help them do what a 50 men pug dc zerg cant^^
Guess thats called a l2p issue

Little? Every blue guild group has 7-14 on Sotha, and always have. And every of them makes a difference. Besides, why do you even think he meant you? You weren't there. Everyone farms at Sej sooner or later, some maybe sooner and some maybe later. You are almost the only hope for players who can't join one of the 4 german TS
and the 2 French speaking groups, and I regularly recommend you to players who I am forced to reject because of the language.

Though I like having more organized enemy groups (so I can win with casuals against progress oriented groups which is a nice challenge), it would be horrible to have so few international guilds on Sotha's Blue side.

Yes little.

Of course little. It doesnt count as small guild group if there are 3 guilds zerging an objective together^^

If we wouldnt play for fun we wouldnt play at all and DC still wouldnt be stronger.
Funny enough someone in zone still starts to blame us when the whole faction follows our juicy tick to brk^^

Thats why I don't go BRK unless I must. Everyone who takes BRK, Sej, or Alessia will get unwanted company and the lag that comes with it.

3 sided battles aren't playable anymore for me because of lag; lets hope the Reds recover a bit and get more guild groups running - guild fights are the only interesting thing left in Cyro, as basically every TS group could destroy up to five times their number if organized and earthgored well enough.

InvitationNotFound

very interesting how this thread develops...

Trashs1

InvitationNotFound wrote: »

very interesting how this thread develops...

how does it develop?

Hiro_Kintsugi

I gotta say I had the dreaded flu for a week (so finally got to play more than an hour or two a week) and was so stoked to see Sotha full of good fun players. It was totally a fun distraction. AD has been great.

I would suggest to AD more open groups though. I see a lot of sad neglected players asking..no begging for group. I would add them when I ran a group, but I very rarely lead groups. My buddy and me mostly play as a team of two. Not super into the comms sometimes, would rather listen to death metal....

So hey you great guilds full of great players; AD needs more coordination and friendliness!
Yeah I am talking to you High Elves....Other than that Hazzah.

Trashs1

great fights yesterday *wave to luxys*

Thraben

Hiro_Kintsugi wrote: »

I gotta say I had the dreaded flu for a week (so finally got to play more than an hour or two a week) and was so stoked to see Sotha full of good fun players. It was totally a fun distraction. AD has been great.

I would suggest to AD more open groups though. I see a lot of sad neglected players asking..no begging for group. I would add them when I ran a group, but I very rarely lead groups. My buddy and me mostly play as a team of two. Not super into the comms sometimes, would rather listen to death metal....
.

If they would get organized, the Yells would win the campaign, without a doubt. They have both quality and quantity. Thing is, you can´t afford to take random players in your groups as they are unwilling detonators of the enemy bomb attack. We wiped twice yesterday just because 1 or 2 fresh guild members didn´t use the "recommended" sets and skills.

I can still make up for this using tactics, but any non-TS LFG group would have to take losses only the Reds are willing to take when facing an enemy guild group, and would soon disband.

Vicious Death basically ruined LFG groups. The whole PvP would be vastly different without it, and - for the majority of players - better. Even if we use it ourselves (like the destro), I would be happy if this whole Bomb meta would be replaced by something that demands more skill and coordination than getting a stupid VD proc.

Feanor

Thraben wrote: »

Hiro_Kintsugi wrote: »

I gotta say I had the dreaded flu for a week (so finally got to play more than an hour or two a week) and was so stoked to see Sotha full of good fun players. It was totally a fun distraction. AD has been great.

I would suggest to AD more open groups though. I see a lot of sad neglected players asking..no begging for group. I would add them when I ran a group, but I very rarely lead groups. My buddy and me mostly play as a team of two. Not super into the comms sometimes, would rather listen to death metal....
.

If they would get organized, the Yells would win the campaign, without a doubt. They have both quality and quantity. Thing is, you can´t afford to take random players in your groups as they are unwilling detonators of the enemy bomb attack. We wiped twice yesterday just because 1 or 2 fresh guild members didn´t use the "recommended" sets and skills.

I can still make up for this using tactics, but any non-TS LFG group would have to take losses only the Reds are willing to take when facing an enemy guild group, and would soon disband.

Vicious Death basically ruined LFG groups. The whole PvP would be vastly different without it, and - for the majority of players - better. Even if we use it ourselves (like the destro), I would be happy if this whole Bomb meta would be replaced by something that demands more skill and coordination than getting a stupid VD proc.

AD wouldn’t. Prime time we can push and defend well, but these days campaigns are won by the faction that can field the most players in the off hours, especially in the night/morning. And that’s EP still.

gepe87

A pity many AD gave up on SS. SS AD was a nice faction, with many victories, now is where we can find a lot of elitists (keeping criticizing new players and pugs but they even refuse to invite them to guilds and show them "the way"). It still have nice ppl, stuggling to keep AD up including many solos that are tired to mindless guilds that lasts for 1 or 2 months. And for last nearly 60% that don't know what to to do, many without any strategic point of view or guidance.

John_1999

AD is bad, and they had a noob EMP.

Trashs1

Thraben wrote: »

Hiro_Kintsugi wrote: »

I gotta say I had the dreaded flu for a week (so finally got to play more than an hour or two a week) and was so stoked to see Sotha full of good fun players. It was totally a fun distraction. AD has been great.

I would suggest to AD more open groups though. I see a lot of sad neglected players asking..no begging for group. I would add them when I ran a group, but I very rarely lead groups. My buddy and me mostly play as a team of two. Not super into the comms sometimes, would rather listen to death metal....
.

If they would get organized, the Yells would win the campaign, without a doubt. They have both quality and quantity. Thing is, you can´t afford to take random players in your groups as they are unwilling detonators of the enemy bomb attack. We wiped twice yesterday just because 1 or 2 fresh guild members didn´t use the "recommended" sets and skills.

I can still make up for this using tactics, but any non-TS LFG group would have to take losses only the Reds are willing to take when facing an enemy guild group, and would soon disband.

Vicious Death basically ruined LFG groups. The whole PvP would be vastly different without it, and - for the majority of players - better. Even if we use it ourselves (like the destro), I would be happy if this whole Bomb meta would be replaced by something that demands more skill and coordination than getting a stupid VD proc.

im sereously curious how things will change when aoe caps are gone. although when i count how much destro ult rushes i did yesterday, it only was 2 times. Rest of the evening we got our enemies with "alternative tactics" xD or, as u sayed, 2 times wipe.

maybe.. just maybe.. when aoe caps are gone, the meta shifts away from ball groups because its simpley to dangerous getting cought with that playstyle and im personaly had a lot of fun with your "alternative tactics"!

Hiro_Kintsugi

Thraben wrote: »

Hiro_Kintsugi wrote: »

I gotta say I had the dreaded flu for a week (so finally got to play more than an hour or two a week) and was so stoked to see Sotha full of good fun players. It was totally a fun distraction. AD has been great.

I would suggest to AD more open groups though. I see a lot of sad neglected players asking..no begging for group. I would add them when I ran a group, but I very rarely lead groups. My buddy and me mostly play as a team of two. Not super into the comms sometimes, would rather listen to death metal....
.

If they would get organized, the Yells would win the campaign, without a doubt. They have both quality and quantity. Thing is, you can´t afford to take random players in your groups as they are unwilling detonators of the enemy bomb attack. We wiped twice yesterday just because 1 or 2 fresh guild members didn´t use the "recommended" sets and skills.

I can still make up for this using tactics, but any non-TS LFG group would have to take losses only the Reds are willing to take when facing an enemy guild group, and would soon disband.

Vicious Death basically ruined LFG groups. The whole PvP would be vastly different without it, and - for the majority of players - better. Even if we use it ourselves (like the destro), I would be happy if this whole Bomb meta would be replaced by something that demands more skill and coordination than getting a stupid VD proc.

I hear what your saying about a few characters compromising the group with vicious death. Its a big risk and Sheogorath knows there is a large percentage of pugs who join groups and do whatever they please and play Starscream to the crown.
I used to lead groups in BWB and it was indeed nuts. You have bad listeners, want-to-be leaders and poor players. But I think that's a big part of the fun as a leader and a healthy challenge for a good guild. In IRL combat you have these people too and used well they can be a great asset. For me it just adds to the challenge and chaos that is PVP.

Its a task of tactics and strategy to use these players well and to have formations that avoid Bombers but I agree it could be more interesting than just a proc set. I for one am glad they brought in bombers. In some of the guilds all you get to do is stay tight on crown in a devastating wraith swarm with no individual play or creative thinking what so ever. There is following crown and there is a boring numbers game that pits zerg against zerg. It was threatening to make me leave ESO PVP if that's all it was to become. Not to mention successful Bombing is difficult unless you have a dedicated player and I think its a good shake up. I personally wish they would shake us up more and present more challenges.That said keeping out PUGs is one way to deal with it, just not as fun and it waste AD resources.

ordraveeb17_ESO

Trashs1 wrote: »

Thraben wrote: »

Hiro_Kintsugi wrote: »

I gotta say I had the dreaded flu for a week (so finally got to play more than an hour or two a week) and was so stoked to see Sotha full of good fun players. It was totally a fun distraction. AD has been great.

I would suggest to AD more open groups though. I see a lot of sad neglected players asking..no begging for group. I would add them when I ran a group, but I very rarely lead groups. My buddy and me mostly play as a team of two. Not super into the comms sometimes, would rather listen to death metal....
.

If they would get organized, the Yells would win the campaign, without a doubt. They have both quality and quantity. Thing is, you can´t afford to take random players in your groups as they are unwilling detonators of the enemy bomb attack. We wiped twice yesterday just because 1 or 2 fresh guild members didn´t use the "recommended" sets and skills.

I can still make up for this using tactics, but any non-TS LFG group would have to take losses only the Reds are willing to take when facing an enemy guild group, and would soon disband.

Vicious Death basically ruined LFG groups. The whole PvP would be vastly different without it, and - for the majority of players - better. Even if we use it ourselves (like the destro), I would be happy if this whole Bomb meta would be replaced by something that demands more skill and coordination than getting a stupid VD proc.

im sereously curious how things will change when aoe caps are gone. although when i count how much destro ult rushes i did yesterday, it only was 2 times. Rest of the evening we got our enemies with "alternative tactics" xD or, as u sayed, 2 times wipe.

maybe.. just maybe.. when aoe caps are gone, the meta shifts away from ball groups because its simpley to dangerous getting cought with that playstyle and im personaly had a lot of fun with your "alternative tactics"!

LOL))) after update coming back stamina groups ))) stamwarden will be OP in group fight.... permafrost+steeltornado ))) and 100% heavy armor....(light for sorcs).... too much dmg will come )))

Jaxaxo

Triggered Tryhards wants to thank the whole bunch of REALLY motivated ep players on arrius mine for an amazing farm and ap donation

Trashs1

Jaxaxo wrote: »

Triggered Tryhards wants to thank the whole bunch of REALLY motivated ep players on arrius mine for an amazing farm and ap donation

how do u guys play so well?? i was 2 days ago in stealth near a dolmen and saw 2 of you destroying 8 eps alone. (nightblade and magdk) might u share your nb build/setup^^?

i was impressed..

Croucamp

Trashs1 wrote: »

Jaxaxo wrote: »

Triggered Tryhards wants to thank the whole bunch of REALLY motivated ep players on arrius mine for an amazing farm and ap donation

how do u guys play so well?? i was 2 days ago in stealth near a dolmen and saw 2 of you destroying 8 eps alone. (nightblade and magdk) might u share your nb build/setup^^?

i was impressed..

You won’t learn much by chasing 2-4 people and ult dumping them with a raid, that’s for sure .

Trashs1

Croucamp wrote: »

Trashs1 wrote: »

Jaxaxo wrote: »

Triggered Tryhards wants to thank the whole bunch of REALLY motivated ep players on arrius mine for an amazing farm and ap donation

how do u guys play so well?? i was 2 days ago in stealth near a dolmen and saw 2 of you destroying 8 eps alone. (nightblade and magdk) might u share your nb build/setup^^?

i was impressed..

You won’t learn much by chasing 2-4 people and ult dumping them with a raid, that’s for sure .

if this is a sidekick on our grp play.. you would be surprised how often we fight outnumbered, even vs other organized grps, in comparison to the case u pointed out

...but well this case also happens sometims thoo

John_1999

Trashs1 wrote: »

Jaxaxo wrote: »

Triggered Tryhards wants to thank the whole bunch of REALLY motivated ep players on arrius mine for an amazing farm and ap donation

how do u guys play so well?? i was 2 days ago in stealth near a dolmen and saw 2 of you destroying 8 eps alone. (nightblade and magdk) might u share your nb build/setup^^?

i was impressed..

They watch Kodi

Thraben

Croucamp wrote: »

Trashs1 wrote: »

Jaxaxo wrote: »

Triggered Tryhards wants to thank the whole bunch of REALLY motivated ep players on arrius mine for an amazing farm and ap donation

how do u guys play so well?? i was 2 days ago in stealth near a dolmen and saw 2 of you destroying 8 eps alone. (nightblade and magdk) might u share your nb build/setup^^?

i was impressed..

You won’t learn much by chasing 2-4 people and ult dumping them with a raid, that’s for sure .

You won´t learn much by splitting people up in the middle tower to Ulti dump them 4:1, either

Just use your brain and don´t hang around where all the other Yells farm.

if that´s too subtle:

If you hang out at Ash Mine or Ales Lumber, or cut off a keep, everyone will assume it´s a LFG raid or even a ball group preparing a camp for an attack on a keep. Be smarter than that, and no one will bother you.

CapuchinSeven

Feanor wrote: »

AD wouldn’t. Prime time we can push and defend well, but these days campaigns are won by the faction that can field the most players in the off hours, especially in the night/morning. And that’s EP still.

AD could be in first and at the very least second but it's a faction of famers and trollers that would rather leave all their keeps red so they can blob around DC held Chalman keep wall all night.

Trashs1 wrote: »

Jaxaxo wrote: »

Triggered Tryhards wants to thank the whole bunch of REALLY motivated ep players on arrius mine for an amazing farm and ap donation

how do u guys play so well?? i was 2 days ago in stealth near a dolmen and saw 2 of you destroying 8 eps alone. (nightblade and magdk) might u share your nb build/setup^^?

i was impressed..

TH are pretty much a perfect example of why AD will always be in third place. People take that as insulting but it's just a simple fact, that's what they want and it's their game to play but if someone needs an example of why AD can't get out of third place, that would be it.

Still, could be worse, could be a Pact Nightblade running the entire length of the map because you hit him once.

Jaxaxo

CapuchinSeven wrote: »

Feanor wrote: »

AD wouldn’t. Prime time we can push and defend well, but these days campaigns are won by the faction that can field the most players in the off hours, especially in the night/morning. And that’s EP still.

AD could be in first and at the very least second but it's a faction of famers and trollers that would rather leave all their keeps red so they can blob around DC held Chalman keep wall all night.

Trashs1 wrote: »

Jaxaxo wrote: »

Triggered Tryhards wants to thank the whole bunch of REALLY motivated ep players on arrius mine for an amazing farm and ap donation

how do u guys play so well?? i was 2 days ago in stealth near a dolmen and saw 2 of you destroying 8 eps alone. (nightblade and magdk) might u share your nb build/setup^^?

i was impressed..

TH are pretty much a perfect example of why AD will always be in third place. People take that as insulting but it's just a simple fact, that's what they want and it's their game to play but if someone needs an example of why AD can't get out of third place, that would be it.

Still, could be worse, could be a Pact Nightblade running the entire length of the map because you hit him once.

Care to explain? It's not that it's important for us, but i just wonder about arguments behind your reply

mistrija999

Croucamp

Thraben wrote: »

Croucamp wrote: »

Trashs1 wrote: »

Jaxaxo wrote: »

Triggered Tryhards wants to thank the whole bunch of REALLY motivated ep players on arrius mine for an amazing farm and ap donation

how do u guys play so well?? i was 2 days ago in stealth near a dolmen and saw 2 of you destroying 8 eps alone. (nightblade and magdk) might u share your nb build/setup^^?

i was impressed..

You won’t learn much by chasing 2-4 people and ult dumping them with a raid, that’s for sure .

You won´t learn much by splitting people up in the middle tower to Ulti dump them 4:1, either

Just use your brain and don´t hang around where all the other Yells farm.

if that´s too subtle:

If you hang out at Ash Mine or Ales Lumber, or cut off a keep, everyone will assume it´s a LFG raid or even a ball group preparing a camp for an attack on a keep. Be smarter than that, and no one will bother you.

Thanks for the advice, I guess we'll never get chased across the map and zerged down by thirsty "raiders" like you anymore!

Trashs1

Croucamp wrote: »

Thraben wrote: »

Croucamp wrote: »

Trashs1 wrote: »

Jaxaxo wrote: »

Triggered Tryhards wants to thank the whole bunch of REALLY motivated ep players on arrius mine for an amazing farm and ap donation

how do u guys play so well?? i was 2 days ago in stealth near a dolmen and saw 2 of you destroying 8 eps alone. (nightblade and magdk) might u share your nb build/setup^^?

i was impressed..

You won’t learn much by chasing 2-4 people and ult dumping them with a raid, that’s for sure .

You won´t learn much by splitting people up in the middle tower to Ulti dump them 4:1, either

Just use your brain and don´t hang around where all the other Yells farm.

if that´s too subtle:

If you hang out at Ash Mine or Ales Lumber, or cut off a keep, everyone will assume it´s a LFG raid or even a ball group preparing a camp for an attack on a keep. Be smarter than that, and no one will bother you.

Thanks for the advice, I guess we'll never get chased across the map and zerged down by thirsty "raiders" like you anymore!

that latent elitism in this comment offends me more than it should... u must be a real pvp god

AngryOldMan

Ive seen alot of creativ guildnames lately. DC have alot of guilds called something like "playersPARENTdoingSTUFF" (this is the cencored version off guild names because its really offensive names) A EP-player is the center piese off all the guild name. That EP player apperently have really dubius parents. Whats the story behind all the guild names? Can someone enlight me?

CrazYDunm3r

Trashs1 wrote: »

Croucamp wrote: »

Thraben wrote: »

Croucamp wrote: »

Trashs1 wrote: »

Jaxaxo wrote: »

Triggered Tryhards wants to thank the whole bunch of REALLY motivated ep players on arrius mine for an amazing farm and ap donation

how do u guys play so well?? i was 2 days ago in stealth near a dolmen and saw 2 of you destroying 8 eps alone. (nightblade and magdk) might u share your nb build/setup^^?

i was impressed..

You won’t learn much by chasing 2-4 people and ult dumping them with a raid, that’s for sure .

You won´t learn much by splitting people up in the middle tower to Ulti dump them 4:1, either

Just use your brain and don´t hang around where all the other Yells farm.

if that´s too subtle:

If you hang out at Ash Mine or Ales Lumber, or cut off a keep, everyone will assume it´s a LFG raid or even a ball group preparing a camp for an attack on a keep. Be smarter than that, and no one will bother you.

Thanks for the advice, I guess we'll never get chased across the map and zerged down by thirsty "raiders" like you anymore!

that latent elitism in this comment offends me more than it should... u must be a real pvp god

Well they are quite good tbh

Trashs1

CrazYDunm3r wrote: »

Trashs1 wrote: »

Croucamp wrote: »

Thraben wrote: »

Croucamp wrote: »

Trashs1 wrote: »

Jaxaxo wrote: »

Triggered Tryhards wants to thank the whole bunch of REALLY motivated ep players on arrius mine for an amazing farm and ap donation

how do u guys play so well?? i was 2 days ago in stealth near a dolmen and saw 2 of you destroying 8 eps alone. (nightblade and magdk) might u share your nb build/setup^^?

i was impressed..

You won’t learn much by chasing 2-4 people and ult dumping them with a raid, that’s for sure .

You won´t learn much by splitting people up in the middle tower to Ulti dump them 4:1, either

Just use your brain and don´t hang around where all the other Yells farm.

if that´s too subtle:

If you hang out at Ash Mine or Ales Lumber, or cut off a keep, everyone will assume it´s a LFG raid or even a ball group preparing a camp for an attack on a keep. Be smarter than that, and no one will bother you.

Thanks for the advice, I guess we'll never get chased across the map and zerged down by thirsty "raiders" like you anymore!

that latent elitism in this comment offends me more than it should... u must be a real pvp god

Well they are quite good tbh

i never sayed something different but beeing good doesnt mean u need to be a d.ick right...? There are alot good 1vxer whom u can talk normaly
its still a game therefore stuff should be fun.