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CONFIRMED BUG WITH KAGRENAC'S HOPE DEVS PLEASE TAKE NOTE!!!

kungmoo
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ok so I went and made a v16 gold set of kagrenac's hope armor, and started getting one shot... so I did a little testing


fighting the sweepers in IC sewers I went from taking 10k hits from their normal attacks to 20k+, their harder hitting attacks went from 18k to 36k+
didn't matter if it was ice, fire, or physical attacks.. anything they hit me with it was double damage

it doesn't do it if I put on my old vr14 martial knowledge sets or even the v16 green/white drops I picked up while killing... just seems to be the kagrenac's hope set
Edited by kungmoo on September 17, 2015 8:36PM
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  • Radburn
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    This would explain why I suddenly became much squishier in IC. I had crafted my set of VR16 gold Kagrenac's two days ago and yesterday I went into the districts to claim a couple trophies. I fought a couple packs along the way and died twice. This has never happened before (I am a Templar with appropriate build for IC) and I actually thought maybe ZOS had ninja buffed mobs like they had done to VR content last year. This is very disheartening.
  • Rayste
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    kungmoo wrote: »
    ok so I went and made a v16 gold set of kagrenac's hope armor, and started getting one shot... so I did a little testing


    fighting the sweepers in IC sewers I went from taking 10k hits from their normal attacks to 20k+, their harder hitting attacks went from 18k to 36k+
    didn't matter if it was ice, fire, or physical attacks.. anything they hit me with it was double damage

    it doesn't do it if I put on my old vr14 martial knowledge sets or even the v16 green/white drops I picked up while killing... just seems to be the kagrenac's hope set

    I did notice something similar as well. Can we get @ZOS to respond?
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  • Truewavesound
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    As BiS crafted set for some builds, this is game breaking. Can you /bug and /help this in game, so it actually gets picked up?

    Alsoo @ZOS_GinaBruno please can someone look at this?
  • kungmoo
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    submitted a bug report in game before I posted this here
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  • Radburn
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    I ran Veteran WGT this evening and was one shot twice in a row from a skeleton ability called whirlwind. I was wearing 3 pieces of VR16 Gold Kagrenac's. I'm assuming this is the same whirlwind from dual wield line and that it should not be hitting that hard, but honestly I don't know. Maybe it is intended and falls into L2P. I was AoEing pretty hard on the trash.

    tITvjT6.png
    Edited by Radburn on September 16, 2015 1:56AM
  • DeanTheCat
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    Radburn wrote: »
    I ran Veteran WGT this evening and was one shot twice in a row from a skeleton ability called whirlwind. I was wearing 3 pieces of VR16 Gold Kagrenac's. I'm assuming this is the same whirlwind from dual wield line and that it should not be hitting that hard, but honestly I don't know. Maybe it is intended and falls into L2P. I was AoEing pretty hard on the trash.

    tITvjT6.png

    I like the timing on that Combat Cloud popup. Are you sure you are not exploiting?

    Maybe it's made that way so that others can benefit from the other aspect of the 5pc set, that being faster rezzes and Magicka on rez. :trollface:

    Also, Whirlwind is Steel Tornado's lesser form. So... the mobs have finally learnt how to ball up and form an AoE train?
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  • Alphashado
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    Glad a friend told me about this thread. I was just about to craft a 5 piece set.

    Bump for Moderator attention.
  • DDemon
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    Would love an update on this, I too was about to craft that specific set.
  • Elijah_Crow
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  • Yolokin_Swagonborn
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    THIS IS HILARIOUS!!!

    You didn't think ZOS would allow a crafted set to become BIS would you? MUAHAHAHAHAH.

    There must be.... Consequences. BOW TO THE DLC!!!!

    But seriously, I'm pretty sure they are going to nerf Kracknerack or whatever its called. It's not that powerful, a great healer set, but it competes with scathing mage and the other "mandatory" sets that you have to grind for. Grind is love. Grind is life.

    But this is an amazing observation. I have a 5pc heavy armor Krack set and was getting roasted easily like I was wearing tissue paper.

    Something fishy is afoot.


    Edit: inb4 someone "invents" the heavy armor krag spell power build. Already tried it. Will be good when this bug is fixed but I'm sure it has already been "invented" (as has all other builds) by someone who's name rhymes with FlannelBribes.
    Edited by Yolokin_Swagonborn on September 16, 2015 4:59AM
  • Tanis-Stormbinder
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    A good alternative to this set would be two pieces Torug’s Pact and four pieces of Magnus’ Gift. Maybe add Shoulders of Molag Kena. Yours weapons can a Master weapon or any crafted weapon.
  • Leandor
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    Has anyone tried with lower quality (purple), lower level (V15) and/or other crafted V16 golden sets?
  • hedna123b14_ESO
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    Oh man hopefully this gets fixed monday...
  • Tankqull
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    Leandor wrote: »
    Has anyone tried with lower quality (purple), lower level (V15) and/or other crafted V16 golden sets?

    seems to be tied to v16 - havent observed something awkward with my purple v15 set so far.
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  • Leandor
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    Thanks, @Tankqull

    has anyone tried other V16 crafted sets? Hunding's Rage maybe?
  • Xsorus
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    That explains how my nightblade has been dying so easy lol.
  • Turelus
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    And I was probably going to craft this in the next couple of days... oh Azura thankfully I didn't...
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  • Personofsecrets
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    Interesting.
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  • r.jan_emailb16_ESO
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    I tested it against normal mobs and some Xivkyn dude, and I don't see this damage increase. Sot it's maybe "only" the sweeper bosses? Also I only have 2/5 of my Kagrenac's at legendary quality atm.
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  • SkylarkAU
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    Is it light armor?
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  • olsborg
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    So thats why I got oneshot! I just tried my sorc again with this v16 set, and was instantly pwned by some deadric mobs in the sewers, I quickly relogged my nb again and tought to myself "that sorc is a noob"

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  • r.jan_emailb16_ESO
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    Could someone test if that's a issue with all crafted sets?
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  • Fruity_Ninja
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    Wow. Nasty.

    Glad I didn't blow my purple or gold mats on a set of this, hopefully there is a response soon.
  • AngryNord
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    I take it you have /bug'ed this in-game?
  • Troneon
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    Spell Shield and other spell resistance things are also bugged. I think Light armor passives too.
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  • DisgracefulMind
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    I've not noticed this at all. In fact, I went in completely wasted on my birthday to IC on my Templar and was "tanking" 5+ people at a time in my almost entire 5-light Kagrenac's setup lol (just to put in perspective how manageable the damage was in it :P ). Went back in the next day and did the same exact thing with no issues.

    I've also ran Vet WGT and Vet Imperial City Prison tons of times and haven't noticed myself taking more damage than I would in my previous set-up.

    Still something ZoS could look into, I suppose.
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  • Alphashado
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    A "Hey guys, just letting you know we are looking into this" would sure be nice.

    Guess I'll just make a V15 blue set and test for myself.
  • code65536
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    I'm using a 5p Kag set, but only 2 pieces are VR16 gold (the rest are VR15 purple--filler pieces until I grind up enough silks). I haven't noticed any major increase in squishiness, but I haven't really paid that much attention either.
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  • Elijah_Crow
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    Bump for Dev attention.
  • Crown
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    @kungmoo @radburn @rayste and the rest who are experiencing this, perhaps your Battle Spirit is not being applied when you zone in/out. Take a look at:

    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/171717/battle-spirit-buff-not-being-applied
    and
    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/214932/battle-spirit-not-working-original-post-deleted

    Do you have your extra 5k health from Battle Spirit? Does the buff show on your character list?
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