CONFIRMED BUG WITH KAGRENAC'S HOPE DEVS PLEASE TAKE NOTE!!!

Rickter

im tanking in it! and im a vampire!

kungmoo

buff is there, nothing like that out of place

I literally go in with one set of gear on, take note of damage taken with its abilities, run and reset fight, change gear to kagrenac's hope and go back in and take double damage

after a bit more testing it seems to be only the sweepers in the sewers that are doing it.... let a friend of mine beat on me in pvp using various skills... all do same damage that we tried so no affect there

normal enemies in the sewers there seems to be a slight difference in damage, take a bit more than the other sets, but that could be due to any number of reasons

gonna toy with it in some dungeons today and see what happens

MLRPZ

same, Yesterday with my martial knowledge did just fine in WGT, today with 5 kagrenac light v15 purple, took maaaaaaaaaaaaany damage.

Fix that pls

GreyRanger

Wow, what a mess. So a quick recap of what we know:

1. Players with v16 gold Kagrenac's Hope are experiencing double damage spikes in IC.

What we don't know/could use testing to resolve:
1. Does this apply to other versions of Kagrenac's Hope (v16, purple etc.). This would be very handy to know for anyone thinking about crafting this set.
2. Is this a set bug or another instance of the failure to apply the battle spirit bug that has been floating around for some players since May?

What I would request:
1. Can the moderators please acknowledge they are aware of the issue?
2. Can the Devs please test the problem and get back to us regarding its nature and extent?

• It is game/content breaking for those affected
• No one is better positioned to test these issues quickly than the Devs. You have access to all the in game resources to set up tests quickly. For a player to test requires burning resources to do bug testing.

3. It would also be grand if you could share any information on the timeline/priority for a fix for this issue or work arounds until you get to it.


Thanks for your help in advance.

Trashy Boy

Awesome observation m8, thanks for that. I was just about to craft that set. Phew!!!!

Hope to see a response soon

Elijah_Crow

I would test more extensively but the resources are to rare to spend for bug testing.

GreyRanger

Elijah_Crow wrote: »

I would test more extensively but the resources are to rare to spend for bug testing.

Agreed exactly. Given how hard the v15/16 resources are to acquire only the Devs are in a position to bug test issues like this.

I am extremely bummed as well. I was planning on crafting a Kagrenac's Hope set for DPS for my main, but now I am not sure what to do.

kuscoe

uh is your gear broke? lol

Radburn

kuscoe wrote: »

uh is your gear broke? lol

It's not broke, I checked before starting the run. I should add the 3 Gold VR16 pieces I do have are legs, hands, waist and are all light armour.

Some good suggestions so far:

• Issue with durability
• Battle Spirit not applying properly

Alkalieth

Just for helping you guys to understand this issue (and ZoS if they came down here ^^). I have the same set in VR15 Purple and I didn't experience any issue with it so far in WGT (even on the last boss HM) or in PvE for that matter.

So I don't know ... I'll do some run in the Sewers to test that by myself and look for any issue. If something interesting happen I'll tell you, if not, well ... good game and good day (hoping your issue will be fixed), maybe see you ingame. ^^

NB : Sorry if I mispelled something, I'm not a native English. ^^

Ra'Shtar

Has ZoS acknowledge this bug?

MLRPZ

Alkalieth wrote: »

Just for helping you guys to understand this issue (and ZoS if they came down here ^^). I have the same set in VR15 Purple and I didn't experience any issue with it so far in WGT (even on the last boss HM) or in PvE for that matter.

So I don't know ... I'll do some run in the Sewers to test that by myself and look for any issue. If something interesting happen I'll tell you, if not, well ... good game and good day (hoping your issue will be fixed), maybe see you ingame. ^^

NB : Sorry if I mispelled something, I'm not a native English. ^^

I have exacly the same stuff (VR15 Purple), and I experienced the bug, so it's not related to any lvl or quality.

MLRPZ

Ra'Shtar wrote: »

Has ZoS acknowledge this bugfeature ?

fixed that for you

eliisra

Wearing 5 Kagrenac's Hope as well. Reading this thread makes me worried, since I also had several strange oneshot scenarios since I changed gear.

Most recently got hit for 37k and insta-died to that spinning boss that roams in Sewers. Is that normal?

I've derped for half a second in his "Steel Tornado" before(in my old gear) and only took half that dmg.

Also got oneshot yesterday for 24k by a normal trash mob in Spindleclutch. It was not one of those charged up bow attacks you can interrupt, but a normal instant mele hit. Was really surprised, but assumed it was normal because "VR16 scaling" lol.

danno8

Leandor wrote: »

Has anyone tried with lower quality (purple), lower level (V15) and/or other crafted V16 golden sets?

I have a level 15 set, all purple atm. Have not noticed any real difference in squishiness. May test if I have the time.

Rayste

danno8 wrote: »

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Leandor wrote: »

Has anyone tried with lower quality (purple), lower level (V15) and/or other crafted V16 golden sets?

I have a level 15 set, all purple atm. Have not noticed any real difference in squishiness. May test if I have the time.

Let us know.

Most_Awesome

Im running 5 heavy Krag V15 mixed blue and purple gear, Ive noticed I take major damage from NpC's in the sewers but against other players its fine, mainly its the mages light attacks they can 2 shot me. Plus Im not a Vamp if it wasn't for shield spam I wouldn't stand a chance lol

Kas

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

I've not noticed this at all. In fact, I went in completely wasted on my birthday to IC on my Templar and was "tanking" 5+ people at a time in my almost entire 5-light Kagrenac's setup lol (just to put in perspective how manageable the damage was in it :P ). Went back in the next day and did the same exact thing with no issues.

I've also ran Vet WGT and Vet Imperial City Prison tons of times and haven't noticed myself taking more damage than I would in my previous set-up.

Still something ZoS could look into, I suppose.

this. i'm not runnign the set but several teammate's survivability has INCREASED when they made the set.
btw, the sekelton steeltornado damage screenshot from WGT is normal for an unblocked tornado on a DD

Illumous

Has anyone been able to confirm if this set is really bugged or not? I'm getting close to building a full V16 version of this set and don't want to waste my mats if it is really doing what some people are saying.

Also ZOS input would be nice.

azoriangaming

not noticed this and i sucessfully tank/healed wgt vet vr16 with this set lol

Teargrants

Anyone able to take video showing dmg taken with kagrinacs on vs other sets?

DisgracefulMind

Kas wrote: »

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DisgracefulMind wrote: »

I've not noticed this at all. In fact, I went in completely wasted on my birthday to IC on my Templar and was "tanking" 5+ people at a time in my almost entire 5-light Kagrenac's setup lol (just to put in perspective how manageable the damage was in it :P ). Went back in the next day and did the same exact thing with no issues.

I've also ran Vet WGT and Vet Imperial City Prison tons of times and haven't noticed myself taking more damage than I would in my previous set-up.

Still something ZoS could look into, I suppose.

this. i'm not runnign the set but several teammate's survivability has INCREASED when they made the set.
btw, the sekelton steeltornado damage screenshot from WGT is normal for an unblocked tornado on a DD

The people in this thread seem to be complaining about vr16 Kagrenac's, but I'm wearing full vr16 gear, and no issues at all. /:

Is this JUST a problem for you all in IC? Because it really could be repairs >.>

Radburn

Kas wrote: »

btw, the sekelton steeltornado damage screenshot from WGT is normal for an unblocked tornado on a DD

17.8k damage seems excessive for an AOE ability on a trash mob, especially after they announced damage was going down. Some bosses don't even hit that hard.

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

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Kas wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

I've not noticed this at all. In fact, I went in completely wasted on my birthday to IC on my Templar and was "tanking" 5+ people at a time in my almost entire 5-light Kagrenac's setup lol (just to put in perspective how manageable the damage was in it :P ). Went back in the next day and did the same exact thing with no issues.

I've also ran Vet WGT and Vet Imperial City Prison tons of times and haven't noticed myself taking more damage than I would in my previous set-up.

Still something ZoS could look into, I suppose.

this. i'm not runnign the set but several teammate's survivability has INCREASED when they made the set.
btw, the sekelton steeltornado damage screenshot from WGT is normal for an unblocked tornado on a DD

The people in this thread seem to be complaining about vr16 Kagrenac's, but I'm wearing full vr16 gear, and no issues at all. /:

Is this JUST a problem for you all in IC? Because it really could be repairs >.>

Now that you mention it, there may be an anomaly with durability on this set. While in WGT on Inhibitor we died 6-7 times and I checked my gear, there was no sign of durability loss. Prior to that I recall a weird thing happening where I checked my gear and found my belt was 0 durability, but the rest was fully repaired. I used a repair kit and the next pull my addon showed I was 0% durability again. I checked gear and 3 pieces were at 0.

Alphashado

Either way, some form of acknowledgment from ZoS would be nice.

That being said, I haven't noticed any abnormal problems yet using the V15 purple cloth set. I haven't tested it very much though and I would like to know if there are issues before I craft a gold V16 set.

danno8

OK did some quick testing. VR15 purple set.

With 5/5 Kagrenacs Hope set equipped / pieces removed (no replacement pieces equipped)

Dremora Kynval:

Quick Strike: 3356 / 3668
burning: 257 / 292
Fiery Breath: 7689 / 8734
Dark Talons: 3952 / 4490
Lava Whip: 9138 / 9990

Pathrok of the Frozen Winds:

Daedric Chill: 3934 / 4468
Winters Reach: 11800 / ?
Ice Arrow: 7866 / 8936

So from my small experiment, the armour provides about the amount of protection I would expect. Definitely not any kind of dramatic increase with the armour equipped.

People who say they are experiencing the damage increase are really the ones that need to do this test though. It only takes 10-15 minutes to do a quick equipped/unequipped test.

Hg_9_5b16_ESO

I feel like i got hit a bit to hard with this set aswell, here i got hit by WB for 17k that would've been pretty high even for 1.6 and in 1.7 i usually never get hit by that higher then 10k.

http://imgur.com/nlhTJJQ

I use 2 heavy and the rest light armour. 16k armour buffed, and he still hit me for 17k.

NOTE: If i remember correctly i didn't have the battle spirit buff here either, might be just the buff that is the problem and not the set, but i hear people get hit harder in PvE aswell so seems like it is the set.

Yolokin_Swagonborn

Hg_9_5b16_ESO wrote: »

I feel like i got hit a bit to hard with this set aswell, here i got hit by WB for 17k that would've been pretty high even for 1.6 and in 1.7 i usually never get hit by that higher then 10k.

http://imgur.com/nlhTJJQ

I use 2 heavy and the rest light armour. 16k armour buffed, and he still hit me for 17k.

NOTE: If i remember correctly i didn't have the battle spirit buff here either, might be just the buff that is the problem and not the set, but i hear people get hit harder in PvE aswell so seems like it is the set.

17K WB Damn. Do you remember if you were low health? If they have executioner slotted I think all 2H abilities hit harder but thats a lot from a player.

kungmoo

ok so a few screenshots... was a little annoying to get all the skills in there I wanted with them hitting as hard as they did

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you will notice the damage on winters reach and ice arrow from the boss mob.. the other two are ground target AoEs so cant really go by those since they are a dot from standing in them... this is while wearing v14 set of martial knowledge.... my old gear set

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here I was wearing the kagrenac's hope set, gold v16.... and winters reach damage doubles

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same thing, v16 kagrenac's and ice arrow damage doubles....


you will also note the cost of repairs in the top right of the windows, not a durability issue.. and I did have battle spirit buff during all of those

mateoz

ZOS we want a fix or eta on this!

code65536

@kungmoo, have you tried this with a VR14 green or blue Kag set, compared against a VR14 green or blue Magnus set? Right now, it's not clear if the problem is because the set is crafted vs. dropped, if it's VR16 vs. VR14, or if it's specific to one particular set. If you can see the same kind of difference between crafted VR14 Kag vs. Magnus, then we can then be 100% sure that it's something funky with Kag and that it's not caused by the fact that it's crafted or something weird going on with VR16.