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[MATH] PvP Defensive Set Comparison (Impreg, Brass, Pariah, Riposte, + more)
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✭✭TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »
Kind of sad that even after the OP asked multiple times to not post about that set in here, you still do so over and over again. Masking it as a joke makes it even more pathetic. It just shows you have zero respect and that you find your neurotic desire to prove yourself to others more important. Give it a rest man.TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »Now that Riposte is getting wacked by the Nerf Bat, I have an announcement to make:
The Order of The Combat Physician is willing to forgive those who have committed heresy against the doctrine of the Order and accept you back into our fold provided that you first get down on your KNEES!!! and beg to be spared complete and total ANNIHILATION!!! for your disobedience to the one true Order above all...
Dude...it really was just a joke...relax man.
You know what else is a joke?
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TheDoomsdayMonster✭✭✭✭✭exeeter702 wrote: »TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »
Kind of sad that even after the OP asked multiple times to not post about that set in here, you still do so over and over again. Masking it as a joke makes it even more pathetic. It just shows you have zero respect and that you find your neurotic desire to prove yourself to others more important. Give it a rest man.TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »Now that Riposte is getting wacked by the Nerf Bat, I have an announcement to make:
The Order of The Combat Physician is willing to forgive those who have committed heresy against the doctrine of the Order and accept you back into our fold provided that you first get down on your KNEES!!! and beg to be spared complete and total ANNIHILATION!!! for your disobedience to the one true Order above all...
Dude...it really was just a joke...relax man.
You know what else is a joke?
o_OUnyeilding Bias
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mojomood✭✭✭Impreg is a very good set. Nerf-worthy even. Not a huge nerf but I would say 2000 crit resist would be more on pace. It outperforms every defensive set in CP and many say in no CP as well, even with the lower crit chance.1 -
Taylor_MB✭✭✭✭✭
✭@sluice Wizard's Riposte Change - firstly sorry for my delay it replying!
I've added a "Minor Maim Uptime" modifier in the spreadsheet to account for the now possibility of not 100% uptime.
It's definitely a nerf.... but depends on your play style.
1) Large - Medium Group Play
Much to @TheDoomsdayMonster 's glee, Wizard's Riposte now no longer works for a healer or DD in a medium to large group. With the change to direct damage and shorter duration, it can really only been worn on a Magicka tank.
2) Small Group
You'll still get pretty close to 100% in this situation, but depending on how much your group kites, might be worth testing out another set unless you are the tank.
3) Solo
Absolutely no change here, you'll still have 95%+ uptime. Basically you'll only see a change when playing solo if you kite A LOT, like MagSorc levels of kiting, but MagSorcs don't wear WR anyway.
So basically, for solo or small man you are still good. For large group it can now only be worn on a tank. Overall a good balance change I think, it prevents groups from stacking every minor/major debuff by restricting proc conditions, but barely effects solo and small man.
Edited by Taylor_MB on August 26, 2018 1:58AMPvP Defensive Set Comparison
Firestarter MagDK 1vX - build and gamplay!
LagPlar Ranged Lag Proof(ish) Magplar - build and gamplay!
ShadowGaurd MagBlade Group Utility Tank - build and gamplay!
Oncoming Storm No-CP 11.6k Ward MagSorc - build and gamplay!
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mursie✭✭✭✭✭I should have known that the turtle whining about not getting a fight in cyrodiil would be on the boards writing blogs about how to be the best turtle you can be
well done turtle.
Edited by mursie on August 26, 2018 3:20PM0 -
Naughty_Ryder✭✭✭My current build rocks 5K crit res, 27K Physical Res. 26K Spell Res, 3.5k weapon damage and 15k physical pen. I cannot be killed and I nuke players.Edited by Naughty_Ryder on August 26, 2018 8:27PMFairies are invisible and inaudible like angels. But their magic sparkles in nature.
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Brutusmax1mus✭✭✭✭✭
✭Naughty_Ryder wrote: »My current build rocks 5K crit res, 27K Physical Res. 26K Spell Res, 3.5k weapon damage and 15k physical pen. I cannot be killed and I nuke players.
Impreg spriggans? Sounds fun.2 -
Taylor_MB✭✭✭✭✭
✭@Naughty_Ryder Gameplay please!
@mursie
I'd hate to see how you react to a legit tank instead of a DPS wearing a single defensive set
PvP Defensive Set Comparison
Firestarter MagDK 1vX - build and gamplay!
LagPlar Ranged Lag Proof(ish) Magplar - build and gamplay!
ShadowGaurd MagBlade Group Utility Tank - build and gamplay!
Oncoming Storm No-CP 11.6k Ward MagSorc - build and gamplay!
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paulsimonps✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭@Naughty_Ryder Gameplay please!
@mursie
I'd hate to see how you react to a legit tank instead of a DPS wearing a single defensive set
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✭✭✭✭exeeter702 wrote: »TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »
Kind of sad that even after the OP asked multiple times to not post about that set in here, you still do so over and over again. Masking it as a joke makes it even more pathetic. It just shows you have zero respect and that you find your neurotic desire to prove yourself to others more important. Give it a rest man.TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »Now that Riposte is getting wacked by the Nerf Bat, I have an announcement to make:
The Order of The Combat Physician is willing to forgive those who have committed heresy against the doctrine of the Order and accept you back into our fold provided that you first get down on your KNEES!!! and beg to be spared complete and total ANNIHILATION!!! for your disobedience to the one true Order above all...
Dude...it really was just a joke...relax man.
You know what else is a joke?
Why use that set when you can just hold block and get a shield that's sightly smaller for free with a psijic skill + that red CP passive lol0 -
TheDoomsdayMonster✭✭✭✭✭exeeter702 wrote: »TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »
Kind of sad that even after the OP asked multiple times to not post about that set in here, you still do so over and over again. Masking it as a joke makes it even more pathetic. It just shows you have zero respect and that you find your neurotic desire to prove yourself to others more important. Give it a rest man.TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »Now that Riposte is getting wacked by the Nerf Bat, I have an announcement to make:
The Order of The Combat Physician is willing to forgive those who have committed heresy against the doctrine of the Order and accept you back into our fold provided that you first get down on your KNEES!!! and beg to be spared complete and total ANNIHILATION!!! for your disobedience to the one true Order above all...
Dude...it really was just a joke...relax man.
You know what else is a joke?
Why use that set when you can just hold block and get a shield that's sightly smaller for free with a psijic skill + that red CP passive lol
A few reasons...
1) You can use both; there is no real reason to limit yourself to one or the other...
2) You can give Combat Physician to allies (and even NPC's [like Guards when you are holding a Resource] if need be)...
3) Combat Physician gives a bigger shield with a shorter cooldown...
4) You can only activate the Psijic Shield while blocking...
With Combat Physician, I can cast a HoT on myself while kiting around which turns CP into auto-shielding...
You can proc CP 3 times from a single use of Rapid Regen in the above fashion (you can proc it on seconds 1, 7, and 13); you can proc it up to 4 times with a single use of Mutagen (it can be proc'ed on seconds 1, 7, 13, and 19)...
5) You can Proc Combat Physician and then go into Mist Form which is not an option available with the Psijic Skill...
6) Combat Physician benefits just as much from CP's as Psijic does...
I haven't put any points into Bastion in a while, but at one point in time, the Combat Physican Damage Shield would top off at 10k+ (5k+ in PvP) if you invested enough points into it...
So, @Daus, are my reasons for using Combat Physician (compared to the Psijic Ability) logical? Edited by TheDoomsdayMonster on August 27, 2018 12:50PMUnyeilding Bias
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Taylor_MB✭✭✭✭✭
✭@brandonv516 8 months later your prediction comes true!brandonv516 wrote: »And here comes the Wizards Reposte nerf.
@mursie You've inspired me greatly! This is now the OP-
PvP Defensive Set Comparison
Firestarter MagDK 1vX - build and gamplay!
LagPlar Ranged Lag Proof(ish) Magplar - build and gamplay!
ShadowGaurd MagBlade Group Utility Tank - build and gamplay!
Oncoming Storm No-CP 11.6k Ward MagSorc - build and gamplay!
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mursie✭✭✭✭✭unfortunately work censors all images. i'll have to see your inspirations later this evening. well done turtle!
and calling a snb templar a dps is a bit of a stretch. we all know you only have one gameplan. sit in your own rune/ritual wearing HA/SnB and beg a *** to fight you in it while you turtle up and wait for a burst combo counter.
very effective 1v1 - if you can get a *** willing to actually fight you in it.
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Taylor_MB✭✭✭✭✭
✭You're welcome to check out my MagPlar gameplay vids to see proof MagPlars can in fact 1vX.
Admittedly it isn't as easier or prettier as MagDK is (at least for me).PvP Defensive Set Comparison
Firestarter MagDK 1vX - build and gamplay!
LagPlar Ranged Lag Proof(ish) Magplar - build and gamplay!
ShadowGaurd MagBlade Group Utility Tank - build and gamplay!
Oncoming Storm No-CP 11.6k Ward MagSorc - build and gamplay!
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brandonv516✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭@brandonv516 8 months later your prediction comes true!brandonv516 wrote: »And here comes the Wizards Reposte nerf.
@mursie You've inspired me greatly! This is now the OP-
lol 8 months is a pretty good run! 0 -
Naughty_Ryder✭✭✭@Naughty_Ryder Gameplay please!
@mursie
I'd hate to see how you react to a legit tank instead of a DPS wearing a single defensive set
It’s coolFairies are invisible and inaudible like angels. But their magic sparkles in nature.
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Minno✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭@brandonv516 8 months later your prediction comes true!brandonv516 wrote: »And here comes the Wizards Reposte nerf.
@mursie You've inspired me greatly! This is now the OP-
It's missing a ninja turtle though
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Minno✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭You're welcome to check out my MagPlar gameplay vids to see proof MagPlars can in fact 1vX.
Admittedly it isn't as easier or prettier as MagDK is (at least for me).
I think most Templar, despite wanting the class to feel better in combat, agree that they are harder to play. Thus they feel more rewarding when you can do the things others classes take for granted in 1vX settings.
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✭✭✭✭✭Brutusmax1mus wrote: »Naughty_Ryder wrote: »My current build rocks 5K crit res, 27K Physical Res. 26K Spell Res, 3.5k weapon damage and 15k physical pen. I cannot be killed and I nuke players.
Impreg spriggans? Sounds fun.
and if you don't use spriggans, then axe+bleed+dot+something for POTL burst. Jules has the former setup (axe, rending bleed, full WD with WD from from Automaton theory-craft setup with help from Arya). Rhage uses double bar axes I think for the bleeds? Either way, don't have high penetration, roll bleeds. Have high penetration, roll some normal dots with burst dmg.
I am using impreg now with prisoners and engine guardian but sword/axe 2h poison injection backbar with double dmg/stam cost poisons on the 2h bar for extra pressure. 22-23k health 34-36k stamina 13k mag, 4k WD buffed and still have 1800 recovery (lava foot food with one or 2 health enchants). 2-3 impen, 3 well fitted, 1 reinforced (20k resists, 4100-3100 CR, 12% extra trait dodge roll cost reduction in nCP).
Felt better to get DMG from the weapons/jewels and then easier to get sustain/defense from the 5pc/2pc sets in my experience.Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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paulsimonps✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭@brandonv516 8 months later your prediction comes true!brandonv516 wrote: »And here comes the Wizards Reposte nerf.
@mursie You've inspired me greatly! This is now the OP-
It's missing a ninja turtle though
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Drakkdjinn✭✭✭✭✭
✭Bump - for those LA wearers that now might need to equip a defensive set for the first time.
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Minno✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Drakkdjinn wrote: »Bump - for those LA wearers that now might need to equip a defensive set for the first time.
hahaha Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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TheDoomsdayMonster✭✭✭✭✭My Combat Physician Damage Shield is about to become 44% stronger against Spell Damage and 35% stronger against Physical... Unyeilding Bias
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Magicka Templar
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kaithuzar✭✭✭✭✭
✭Any update with nerf to impreg incoming from 2500 to 2000?
Thoughts on valiant or heartland? I think they each reduce damage by 5%, do they stack; how well?Member of:
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Minno✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Any update with nerf to impreg incoming from 2500 to 2000?
Thoughts on valiant or heartland? I think they each reduce damage by 5%, do they stack; how well?
you can see for yourself honestl Just sub out the 2500 value for 2000.
For me, it drops impreg value from 84% to 79% against a high pen+high crit dmg enemy.
Trans was 69% under the same attacker stats.Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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Tonturri✭✭✭✭✭TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »My Combat Physician Damage Shield is about to become 44% stronger against Spell Damage and 35% stronger against Physical...
Don't forget about penetration!0 -
susmitds✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »My Combat Physician Damage Shield is about to become 44% stronger against Spell Damage and 35% stronger against Physical...
Don't forget about penetration!
Don't forget about crit. Edited by susmitds on October 7, 2018 10:10PM0 -
Jimmy_The_Fixer✭✭✭✭✭TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »My Combat Physician Damage Shield is about to become 44% stronger against Spell Damage and 35% stronger against Physical...
Looks like somebody didn't read all of the patch notes.0
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