- Update 23Ice Furnace: This item set now grants Spell Damage, rather than Weapon Damage for the 4 piece bonus
@RinaldoGandolphi
Believe me, I dreaded how they butchered Streak CC. The combo you mentioned is what I was referring to, a fluid, enjoyable strategy.
The difference now is that Streak required proximity and "turning around". It also needed no CC break, 1.5 seconds isn't worth it if you're in stamina trouble.
The new Rune Prison seems vastly superior to that. An instant kill combo from 36 meters away can be devastating to Cyrodiil. I feel like something should be nerfed to justify the CC, but keep it balanced. I felt Fury is a good candidate. I can not judge whether that would break sorc burst. I think not.
But, what would you nerf in exchange?
@Feanor
In tandem with what I said above, yeah. Fury is weird, in that it's not a good execute in PvE, but a mean burst skill in PvP. Closing the gap between them seems like a good idea to me.
Mages Wrath/Endless Fury should have its execute timer reduced to 2 seconds from 4. This will retain this ability's strength when used by skilled sorcs that know how to properly time and layer burst damage, but diminish its ability to just be spammed by anybody to get leech killing blows.
100% right you can definitely spam it from a zerg but other than that you will never be able to land 1 CrEx in a duel or small-scale fight.Stop trying to make crystal blast work.
It won´t.
Casttime skills that need to be spammed do not work in your games design unless you can outrange your opponent.
If you´re adamant to keep the design of crystal blast reduce it´s cost by atleast 30% and increase it´s range to match that of snipe - maybe reduce the casttime to 0.8s (gcd would remain 1s so no need to get angry).
Stop trying to make crystal blast work.
It won´t.
Casttime skills that need to be spammed do not work in your games design unless you can outrange your opponent.
If you´re adamant to keep the design of crystal blast reduce it´s cost by atleast 30% and increase it´s range to match that of snipe - maybe reduce the casttime to 0.8s (gcd would remain 1s so no need to get angry).
- Update 23Ice Furnace: This item set now grants Spell Damage, rather than Weapon Damage for the 4 piece bonus
Are there any plans to give sorc better sustain in pve or should be still play as heavy attack machine? Force pulse(and most other spammable skills mag or stam) is way too expensive to make a light attack rotation work in a real pve environment(trials). In general all combat got really a real dump with morrowind update and consists now mostly out of spamming heavy attacks on almost all classes instead of using a spammable dps skill. Would be really nice if pve combat would more fun again.
You want a stamina class spammable when even mag Sorc doesn't have one?
You want a stamina class spammable when even mag Sorc doesn't have one?
Yeah why not? Stamina doesn't have any good spammables from the weapon trees.
You want to use Wrecking blow? Well gl hitting someone who blocks every single one of them.
You want to use blood craze? You'll have a bad time aiming all hits even when it's not lagging and when the lag is here you are better off spamming heavy attacks.
Of course you can go with ransack or heroic slash but the damage they provide is much smaller due to 1h&s passives and damage model.
I don't think stamsorcs deserve a class spammable because they are already strong but they are more entitled to it than magicka sorc
feedback on CBlast...
the increased AOE is nice but it wont change the slotting dynamics.
CFrag is single target with boosted damage, proc cost and proc insta-cast and is always useful.
The AOE elements to VBlast are only going to be functional in some cases and other than those cases the casting time and cost are always there, hindering the effort.
That means its basically a fool's bet or sucker play to slot VB over CF for any serious fight.
I like the idea of the AOE vs single-target but you need to standardize the gameplay issues.
if you leave CFrag as is then CB needs to do the following:
Do AOE damage over a 10m radius and forget the primary and splash thing.
Proc chance like CF for lower cost, insta-cast and Bleed effect - like maybe from the sharp little pieces - replacing the direct buff.
This makes CF the inferno staff single target choice and CB the lightning staff AoE version.
Both get to play the same game as far as wait for proc for quick and easy.
Just my 2c based on what i have seen.
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feedback on CBlast...
the increased AOE is nice but it wont change the slotting dynamics.
CFrag is single target with boosted damage, proc cost and proc insta-cast and is always useful.
The AOE elements to VBlast are only going to be functional in some cases and other than those cases the casting time and cost are always there, hindering the effort.
That means its basically a fool's bet or sucker play to slot VB over CF for any serious fight.
I like the idea of the AOE vs single-target but you need to standardize the gameplay issues.
if you leave CFrag as is then CB needs to do the following:
Do AOE damage over a 10m radius and forget the primary and splash thing.
Proc chance like CF for lower cost, insta-cast and Bleed effect - like maybe from the sharp little pieces - replacing the direct buff.
This makes CF the inferno staff single target choice and CB the lightning staff AoE version.
Both get to play the same game as far as wait for proc for quick and easy.
Just my 2c based on what i have seen.
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Whatever is done with Crystal Blast to make it worth using should entail making the projectile fly directly like the other morph, rather than in it's current high arch.
grannas211 wrote: »You want a stamina class spammable when even mag Sorc doesn't have one?
Yeah why not? Stamina doesn't have any good spammables from the weapon trees.
You want to use Wrecking blow? Well gl hitting someone who blocks every single one of them.
You want to use blood craze? You'll have a bad time aiming all hits even when it's not lagging and when the lag is here you are better off spamming heavy attacks.
Of course you can go with ransack or heroic slash but the damage they provide is much smaller due to 1h&s passives and damage model.
I don't think stamsorcs deserve a class spammable because they are already strong but they are more entitled to it than magicka sorc
You have 4 weapons lines and magicka has two. And the magicka version doesn't even have a spamable. I do not agree with this assessment.
feedback on CBlast...
the increased AOE is nice but it wont change the slotting dynamics.
CFrag is single target with boosted damage, proc cost and proc insta-cast and is always useful.
The AOE elements to VBlast are only going to be functional in some cases and other than those cases the casting time and cost are always there, hindering the effort.
That means its basically a fool's bet or sucker play to slot VB over CF for any serious fight.
I like the idea of the AOE vs single-target but you need to standardize the gameplay issues.
if you leave CFrag as is then CB needs to do the following:
Do AOE damage over a 10m radius and forget the primary and splash thing.
Proc chance like CF for lower cost, insta-cast and Bleed effect - like maybe from the sharp little pieces - replacing the direct buff.
This makes CF the inferno staff single target choice and CB the lightning staff AoE version.
Both get to play the same game as far as wait for proc for quick and easy.
Just my 2c based on what i have seen.
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Whatever is done with Crystal Blast to make it worth using should entail making the projectile fly directly like the other morph, rather than in it's current high arch.
You want a stamina class spammable when even mag Sorc doesn't have one?
Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »You want a stamina class spammable when even mag Sorc doesn't have one?
You have a magicka class execute when even stam sorc doesn't have one? Oh wait, it's in the weapon lines... just like a mag spam.
E: don't get that wrong. But what's that with the "when even mag sorcs don't have one"? Sounds like mag is entitled to a better toolkit than it's stam counterpart. StamSorcs have 1 stamina class skill that does damage. No curse, no wrath, no frag, no pets. With not throw them a bone? Especially when you consider how many class passives they actually make good use of.
Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »You want a stamina class spammable when even mag Sorc doesn't have one?
You have a magicka class execute when even stam sorc doesn't have one? Oh wait, it's in the weapon lines... just like a mag spam.
E: don't get that wrong. But what's that with the "when even mag sorcs don't have one"? Sounds like mag is entitled to a better toolkit than it's stam counterpart. StamSorcs have 1 stamina class skill that does damage. No curse, no wrath, no frag, no pets. With not throw them a bone? Especially when you consider how many class passives they actually make good use of.
Sorc is designed to have no spammable. DKs don't have an execute. Period. It's a design choice and it's here to stay.
DW mag sorcs build around. Staff sorcs have one spammable. Stamina sorcs have one versatile pseudo-spammable, with a powerful execution in the same line. DW stam sorcs build around, have a channel (mag has none), but need to rely on Implosion or Steel Tornado (mag has less Implo procs but a legit execute).
Looks kind of balanced to me, the difference being a flavor in gameplay.
And ask mag sorcs about having each Frag blocked or dodged.
I think the absence of a spammable, if limiting, is fine.