Iselin wrote: »

STEVIL wrote: »

Iselin wrote: »

danno8 wrote: »

STEVIL wrote: »

danno8 wrote: »

So quick question. How is a CP level 160 character, who is Rank 10 in, say, Blacksmith suppose to get some lower level materials to craft some gear for a friend or alt?

Can max level crafters really not gather their own low level materials anymore?

Only solutions I can think of is respec your entire skill line over and over (which will cost most people 10-15k per respect, not to mention the PIA factor), or create 1 alt for each zone and park them permanently so they can gather low materials for you. Is this the solution?

Ok so in OneT a character with cp160 level and a 10 in blacksmith will not be able to harvest nodes or pick up scrap drops from kills ogf any mat other than rubedite. if that character had nothing in clothing, he would harvest half-rubedite and half jute from cloth nodes and find half-ruby scraps and half rawhide scraps in beast kills.

if the character does writs, every writ which doesn't give a survey map will provide a 25 pack of lesser materials. (On PTS I got out of three writs one pack of 25 steel and one pack of 25 kresh.)

So, when planning "how to get my crafting stuff done" in OneT this should be kept in mind and the answers might be different than they are now.

parking in zones is irrelevant. that is the entire point. no matter where you are, what you find will be relevant to your character - for e-v-e-r-y-b-o-d-y. That makes every zone useful, functional and viable. that makes grouping from different factions equally good for everyone.

In the first days of ESO, character progressions were like zone mats tied to a narrow one-track route. When character stayed on that one path at the one rate, the nodes were matched to them by default - zone = level = mat. That started to get killed when gold and silver began, got blown up worse when Cp replaced vet levels and finally in OneT it will die - zone now has nothing to do with level so mats cannot be assigned to zone and serve the majority of the players.

However, as a result of the change, more mats relevant to the characters in play will be harvested. more cases of "i got the mats can you craft for me" should occur and fewer "i got no mats that help."

But some things for some characters will change, as they do in every update.

For example, instead of crafting gear upgrades as soon as you hit a new material level (good idea in the current weay) in onet it will be better to craft at the end of a tier and wear that through the next tier while your character gathers mats for the next upgrade at the end of next... etc. that simple change makes the "gather as i go" work better in a node-scale world.

Thats just one example i actually just went thru, even before OneT and it will serve well in OneT.

@STEVIL

Thanks for the extra info. Still what I get from it is that a max level crafter can no longer harvest their own materials but must rely on once/day writs for a small sum of some random previous tier of materials, or rely on others to harvest it for them.

Why not just remove the lower end of the crafting range for materials? So instead of Rubedite Ingots being only useful for CP150-160, just make them used in crafting "up to level CP 160".

The price of lower level mats is going to go up - no doubt about it.

not for iron maple jute

others maybe but IDK

That's just because most people playing CP160+ non-crafting alts have zero points invested in crafting so it's either top end mats or tier 1 dropping for them. The only people that will be harvesting any tier of material between tier 1 and top end will be those who are leveling crafting so those mats will become pretty rare.

Still... I'm willing to bet even tier 1 stuff will go up in price although not as much as the other lower tiers.

Although I suppose that at the same time the increased drop of all these new 3 per zone sets at all levels will make crafting lower level sets much less desirable except maybe for the most dedicated min-maxers who PVP in Blackwater Blade. And this will result in lower demand for low tier mats.

Heck I already did that when I made a couple of new low-level characters on the PTS. On live when I make lowbee alts I routinely craft them 7/7 of whichever armor they wear to speed-up the leveling. On the PTS I didn't bother and just went looking for Trainee drops.

Abt the bold statement...
Wrong.
Just wrong.
Completely wrong. Just not true.
Not at all.
Part of the panic feeding misinfo.

Characters harvest in OneT gaining mats at thrir skill level AND their character level, roughly 50/50.

So, half the msts harvested (or all if skill matches character level) will be at the level the character needs for his gear - matches the gear cap they are at.)

So for characters at any level harvesting there will be a steady flow of appropriately levelled mats.

Add in all the drops being deconned matching the gear level and the sets, useful one, dropping at appropriate gear level, the imagined terror and panic over shortages and prices makes no sense except of course that panic and fear usyally drives up market prices regardless of reality.


MARKET...

With the incoming flow of nodes (50%), trash drops and sets ALL tied to character level and useful gear cap, the supply of mats flowing into the world will be directly linked to the demand.

That is a stong, reasonable market mechanic that should serve to reduce and mitigate shortages and inflation, except fot irratoonalswings due to panic for instance.

Here's a suggestion:
since there are so many new monster sets, Adhazabi Aba-daro the Golden should sell more of them at the same time as well. She's the only way too make dlc specific monster sets available for everyone and now it will be way harder to get any of these sets if she continues selling 2-3 sets a week. (I've been waiting for Molag Kena for way too long )

I'm loving all the new sets available.

I've been experimenting with as many combinations as possible and visiting many of the public delves in each region as possible...

BUT, even in Craglorn, I'm just wrecking through all the mobs with virtually no resistance. I'm more tanky than DPS, and still I even destroy the world bosses solo....

I am not an extreme Min Maxer... just a regular swap out the gear player....Is the content too easy now?


Monster Sets = Awesome!

ICEHEART == not exist... the container actually contained the Chokethorn sets instead... and I created additional characters to see if was just bad luck or if it had been fixed... still no luck.

INFERNAL GUARDIAN == lobs three mortars at the far away mobs == fun and very funny to watch. Fantastic for farming... it will pull far away mobs to me and no more running around to collect all the mobs in one place... I get a kick out of the watching the mortars launch. It procs off dmg shield, so a great combo with Imperium, Hatchling Shell, Permafrost, etc...
also good is that you actually can control when it procs... just don't hit a dmg shield skill when you don't want to proc...

PIRATE SET == Nord + Vampire Cloak + Pirate Monster Helm == Unkillable? That is a lot of damage reduction on proc. I love it for Trials maybe... and turning into a skeleton as an Argonian was fun too....my little skeleton tail swinging around... Some people have made negative comments, but I say it is fun and cool.

ILAMBRIS == rains Lava/Fire /Meteors from the sky == the AoE seems a bit small, but wow, cool effect. It feels very much like "Call of Duty C130 Gunship Support" . Looks cool, especially when it rains down at an angle... easy to proc.

GROTHDRR == creates a Lava pool around me = probably my favorite. It procs often and the AoE moves with me as I move around, which is great. The dmg feels substantial and it does proc a lot. Notice the difference-- this set has an 8 meter AoE and the ILAMBRIS set has a 4 meter AoE... just saying.

SELENE's VISAGE == This set spawns a ghost bear that jumps up and mauls the enemy... it was cool to see when dueling and the guy did it on me... but when I used the set... I felt nothing special.

SELISTREX VISAGE == no visual at all... you hear a boom and then some of the mobs will fall down... not bosses, and not those that are CC immune... I prefer more of a visual cue that the proc went off...


Some of the sets have visuals that are a little bit hard to see when surrounded by mobs....

Gold Jewellery Debate and Gold Itemization in general

In ESO Gold Item are renon to be the more interesting kind of object one player can use. Turning all your gear into gold is costing you a lot but it should feel rewarding and in the long run benefit you a lot but at the moment I do feel like Gold Item isn't giving you any real bonus and doesn't seems to be interesting anymore. As someone stated there's only a 3,7% upgrade inbetween purple and gold set while there's a 700% Financial Lost. I think a 7% incentive for gold should be a minimum.

Gold Jewellery

I think Gold Jewellery should be available Inside the game for the new sets that come Inside dungeon but that those should drop Inside veteran trial and be BoE for two reason.

1. It does offert a replayability for player Inside veteran trial which isn't link to direct gold creation but appeal to market value.
2. It does create an interesting PVE environnement which help player develop.
3. It doesn't lower the symbolics value of gold items Inside the game

Weekly Leaderboard

There should be a really important job to do in order to maintain an healthy leaderboard system. I've been on the vDSA leaderboard this week and I've receive a Bow of Alkosh : Powered, and a Shoulder of Alkosh : Sturdy... The least you could say is gratz ! you didn't receive a Restostaff Charged of Alkosh... but still... Leaderboard should feel special and you should be happy to open them ! Hope I get a Dreugh Wax for theese...

The weekly leaderboard should really offert a better lootable because it often feel as an insult more then a reward. As for an example, for trial leaderboard they should always drop an Equipment piece : Weapon/Armor and sometime an additionnal jewellery. The weapon should only be available in specific traits :

Sword/Mace : Defending/Precise/Sharpened
Bow/Destro/Dual Wield/2h : Precise/Sharpened/Infuse
Resto: Precise/Infuse/Powered

And Gear should be deal with the same way
Medium/Light: Divine/Infuse
Heavy: Reinforce/Strudy

That also fits for vMA Leaderboard, except weapon is always in order and jewellery are uncommon.

BoP vs. BoE trade guild version

When I started to play the game, I had no cash. That was roughly normal since most of the stuff I dropped where useless and the only meaningfull way to get cash in the game was through PVP items (back then). After that, when I became better and started to run dungeon a lot more, I was even poorer since dungeon didn't gave money and did cost me to repair more often.

Now with trial, I'm way richer and that system has been really good for my Bank Account. Now if we go BoP again for everydrop... I'm becoming poor again and only farmer will have opportunity to have money. (Don't forget that an MMO is usually only inflating in term of price rarely going down). On the other hand, I don't want myself to be rich because I run trial and other to be poor because they run dungeon...

I also don't want my trading guild to tell me, start farming mats cause you ain't rewarding us with any money right now... So what should be done ... here's my suggestion.

Undaunted Chest

Let Undaunted Chest be open and also offert a piece of equipement which will be BoE, a piece of set gear. If a player want to open 10 chest of the DLC content in order to sell one ring of Scathing mage I say let him do it !

Trial
Add the only available version of those jewellery in Gold for Veteran Trial (like 10% drop rate), and give 100% drop rate from HM bag for every set.

Scathing Mage and Spell-Power-Cure

Can you also make those set buff overwrite themself. I've been playing as a Sorc with Scathing mage for a While and the result are underwhelming sometime. Most of the time in fact I only achieve 60% uptime (inbetween 40 to 70% actually) for a full boss fight...

That's really low, and it is worst when you consider that I don't use overloard so, I'm almost always casting nearly 1 cast per second... with 65% crit. If only Scathing Mage could overwrite itself it would make this set more interesting during long fight and less rewarding for quick burst action...

Agree if you do !

Dubhliam wrote: »

ElliottXO wrote: »

Please no BoP in dungeons.

I like trading. It makes me feel like playing an MMO.

I actually like BoP with in group trading.
This makes me want to run dungeons with my friends when farming for a specific set.

When the game has all items BoE, then it just becomes a grindfest + stock broker simulator.
Not really MMO-ish, don't you think?

Actually does vary a lot from an MMO to another. If you can sell everything it's just as bad as if you can't sell any. The fact that an MMO needs to vary in term of trading vs. drop acquisition is really relevant to the gameplay. For instance, if every item can be acquired through trading that makes the game too pushy and gear/grind fest start to come into play way too fast for everyone progression since there's no longer any limit to the kind of gear you can be acquiring. On the other hand if everything is lock behind an achievement perspective it does create a no-gain scenario for people pushing through with the content leaving them far behind in term of economics power. The middle-ground is indeed hard to create. Either you create an environnement where money mean almost Nothing. I'm thinking about TSW where all my in-game cash went to buy Customisation Artefact for my Avatar, or you create an unbalance game where money is only acquired by going through a single type of content which is likely to be (for this game) mats farming.

The fact that BoP items exist is, IMHO, really important in order to create a feeling of progression and also create incentive for the player to rush through specific content whenever they feel it. The raid trial gear, and the specific monster helm was indeed a great opportunity, now with new set added, I do also agree that those should be BoP since it would create a real market flood. The likeliness of BoP only item is IMHO really high Inside this game but also not so interesting since I'm tired of this trader and reseller market whom are pushing price to the limit of player capacity.

The fact that BoE items exist is, also IMHO, really important in order to create a money making scenario which can help any community to acquired the economic potential needed to boost themself and get further into the game. That's why I believe Undaunted Chest and Veteran Trial reward should also create an opportunity for those player to gather money. The likeliness of BoE only item is really low Inside this game, and also not so interesting.

So overall, I do agree with you, BoP is nice for most stuff Inside the game, but giving no opportunity for BoE items to a specific categorie of player (either dungeon runner, Trial runner, or Pvp'ers) will crush this game hard.

Also it would be great if set imbalances were addressed. I started a discussion on it at the link below so I won't rehash it here. But I definitely think there is some room for improvement in that area.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/292374/tis-the-season-for-set-balance#latest

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_GinaBruno

Thanks for making a number of stylistic corrections in the 2.6.2 patch. However, there are still some that were missed and still need addressing:

• Twin Sisters currently has no style (thus defaulting to the Breton appearance). Suggestion: Altmer
• Plague Doctor currently has no style (thus defaulting to the Breton appearance). Suggestion: Dunmer
• Trainee currently has no style (thus defaulting to the Breton appearance). Suggestion: Have it drop in the style of the player character's race; e.g., an Imperial who gets a Training piece will get it in the Imperial style.
• Shalk Exoskeleton, Witchman, Leviathan, and Netch's Touch currently have the Bandit style, but this style does not have an associated appearance (thus defaulting to the Breton appearance); please look into the appearance of the Bandit style.
• Seventh Legion currently drops in the Orc style. Suggestion: Imperial
• Akaviri Dragonguard currently drops in the Nord style. Suggestion: Akaviri
• Warlock currently drops in the Breton style. Since it has been moved to Selene's Web and is now named after Warlock Carindon, please consider changing the style to Ancient Elf to match the attire that he actually wears.

The old Tel Var sets still don't come in sturdy.

I get that maybe it's not intended for them to come in jewelry, but come on!
STURDY?!

Cinbri wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

Overwhelming Surge set
The set in its current for is performing "average". I would suggest increasing the proc chance to like 33% as not many classes use a lot class skills. Or increase the uptime to 10 seconds instead of the very short 6 seconds.

Anyway it is outperfomed by 2 heavy armor sets that deal damage to all nearby targets, not only 1. It must be changed to deal damage to all nearby targets.

Yes, this would actually be a much better improvement.
Although I think they would reduce the damage a bit while making that change.

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Short version: There are a couple of problems with Deshaan's overland drops:

1. Night Mother's Embrace is dropping in an older, incorrect heavy variant instead of medium.
2. Plague Doctor has no assigned style (already reported earlier).

Long version: First, a little bit of history. Night Mother's Embrace is set that had been in the game for a long time. It was originally added to the game as a medium-armor set.

When the set was updated and added to the Thieves Trove loot table for Update 9, it was made into a heavy armor set (which made very little sense since it's a stamina/stealth set, but it was done because the aim was to have the troves drop one set of each weight, so either Darkstride had to go heavy, or NME).

For Update 12, NME was added to the Deshaan overland loot table. The two other sets in Deshaan are Mother's Sorrow (light) and Plague Doctor (heavy), so NME was clearly intended to fill the medium-armor slot. Additionally, for Update 12, ZOS added to the game a complete set of medium armor item IDs for NME. But while testing drops in Deshaan (I was in the public dungeon), the NME drops that I got were the old Update 9 heavy versions, not the new Update 12 medium versions.

It seems that this is an unintended oversight: Why create medium armor IDs for NME if you're still using the heavy armor IDs added in Thieves Guild? And if it's dropping in heavy armor, then Deshaan will have two heavy sets and no medium set. Please fix this and have the Deshaan drops use the new medium armor IDs and not the old Update 9 heavy armor IDs.

(Again, I tested this in Deshaan's public dungeon--not sure if the problem is confined to just that location or if it's zone-wide.)

PS: While you're at it, any chance you could change the style of the new medium armor variant from Thieves Guild to Assassin's League (or Dark Brotherhood), so that it's more befitting the set's name? You can keep the heavy armor variant's style as Thieves Guild for the troves...

code65536 wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Short version: There are a couple of problems with Deshaan's overland drops:

1. Night Mother's Embrace is dropping in an older, incorrect heavy variant instead of medium.
2. Plague Doctor has no assigned style (already reported earlier).

Long version: First, a little bit of history. Night Mother's Embrace is set that had been in the game for a long time. It was originally added to the game as a medium-armor set.

When the set was updated and added to the Thieves Trove loot table for Update 9, it was made into a heavy armor set (which made very little sense since it's a stamina/stealth set, but it was done because the aim was to have the troves drop one set of each weight, so either Darkstride had to go heavy, or NME).

For Update 12, NME was added to the Deshaan overland loot table. The two other sets in Deshaan are Mother's Sorrow (light) and Plague Doctor (heavy), so NME was clearly intended to fill the medium-armor slot. Additionally, for Update 12, ZOS added to the game a complete set of medium armor item IDs for NME. But while testing drops in Deshaan (I was in the public dungeon), the NME drops that I got were the old Update 9 heavy versions, not the new Update 12 medium versions.

It seems that this is an unintended oversight: Why create medium armor IDs for NME if you're still using the heavy armor IDs added in Thieves Guild? And if it's dropping in heavy armor, then Deshaan will have two heavy sets and no medium set. Please fix this and have the Deshaan drops use the new medium armor IDs and not the old Update 9 heavy armor IDs.

(Again, I tested this in Deshaan's public dungeon--not sure if the problem is confined to just that location or if it's zone-wide.)

PS: While you're at it, any chance you could change the style of the new medium armor variant from Thieves Guild to Assassin's League (or Dark Brotherhood), so that it's more befitting the set's name? You can keep the heavy armor variant's style as Thieves Guild for the troves...

To clarify, this is what I think should happen:

• Thieves Troves should continue to drops Night Mother's Embrace in heavy (so that the troves continue to drop one armor set of each weight), using the item codes introduced back with Thieves Guild
• Deshaan should drop Night Mother's Embrace in medium (so that Deshaan has one armor set of each weight instead of two heavy sets), possibly with a style change to Assassin's League or Dark Brotherhood for lore consistency (keep the heavy trove set in the TG style, though), using the new item codes that were added for Update 12
• This way, NME will be available in-game in both heavy (troves) and medium (Deshaan), which opens up a few more build options.

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

The Red Mountain set requires that the user deal damage using a weapon ability.

None of the abilities in the Restoration Staff line deals damage.

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While I do like that there is culling of specific cases (like ranged weapons for sets that require melee damage), I would like to see that taken one step further and see a general elimination of stamina weapons on magicka sets and magicka weapons on stamina sets.

There are some exceptions, of course. Dual-wield and sword-and-board are useful for magicka because of their passives. But the passives for bows and 2-handers are useless for a magicka user, and the passives for staves are useless for stamina users.

Is anyone really going to get any use out of this staff or this bow?

Regarding overlandsets

They should also come in GOLD JEVELRY.

If u defeat normal bosses at dolmens make the drop purple.
If u kill a rare boss let it have a 50%chance to drop jevelry pieces in gold.

Or give us a option to upgrade purplr rings and stuff ^^

@Witchmans Armor

Since u let it scale with ultimate cost u should increase the value restored on this set.

250Ult: 12k should be ok since u need to wear 5pieces.

@ZOS_GinaBruno is Barkskin and Levithan to look the same (gfx)? Also Bone Pirate and Hulking Daugr? All other new Dungeon Set's have an separate look. Any reason for this or just a miss?

Thank you!

@ZOS_GinaBruno ICP and WGT vaults still drop sets that arent suppose to drop from those dungeons any more. Toxic defiance for example.