Sotha Sil NAPC Part VII

Scarlett_Princess

jaysins wrote: »

https://discord.gg/jrnBKnN Meh, they'll just take it down if they don't like it. Only rules are no threats outside the game and try to not be a disgusting human being.

This is the best thing I've ever read on this forum. Jayjay you are genius I COULD KISS YOU

jaysins

You could, but you couldn't afford me

Scarlett_Princess

jaysins wrote: »

You could, but you couldn't afford me

My favourite ***

esotoon

It is really good to see that in amidst the turmoil of war, one of our Sotha guilds has really thrown themselves into the spirit of the Witches Festival.

Last night, just as DC were about to take the final keep needed in order for them to get Emp, a gallant guild that spans two factions, took it upon themselves to log in and reprimand us of our tardiness. For us DC, being the God fearing folk that we are, ignored the local traditions and left the Keeps undecorated. "That can't happen." they said, "Don't you know it's the Witches Festival and you should be putting up decorations in all your Keeps to celebrate?"

So, suitably chastised, they kindly took it upon themselves to paint one of the Keeps orange for us.



But their efforts didn't stop there. Oh no, they wanted to make sure that everyone was in on the celebrations. So they kindly went around to all the Keeps, slowly and surely painting them Orange. Until every Keep and every Resource in Cyrodiil was suitably decorated in festive colours.

Those ignorant DC though, they wouldn't learn their lesson. When the map was fully orange, they snuck into Rayles to take it back and turned it a wretched colour of blue. But fear not dear reader, for when those DC dared to take back one of it's resources, our festive buddies came back in force to make sure that their pumpkin patch remained forever Orange.



Truly a heart warming story. Such co-operation between warring factions just to make sure that a tradition that was around centuries before the war started, and will be around for millennia after the war is forgotten, is celebrated despite the war. One for the history books, I'm sure you'll agree.

Kita

On a side note, heres the video i postponed forever.
raw gameplay footage uncut and minimal editing.

stamDK emp pvp footage FT. notorious DC guilds


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv9ZjThD5Qs&t=8s

Rickter

jaysins wrote: »

https://discord.gg/jrnBKnN Meh, they'll just take it down if they don't like it. Only rules are no threats outside the game and try to not be a disgusting human being.

Hands down the most cringe worthy discord I have been in thus far in my ESO career. I have no idea what the purpose of this discord was but If youre looking for "guild bonding" or meaningful campaign discussion, this is not the place. In fact a new comer stumbled in there declaring they were new to the game and wanted build advice and all i could think was "Oh you poor child, this is not that place"

I'm a structure guy. you can go to this link right here and see what its all about: esorequiem.us/codeofconduct

There is a demographic of people that scoff at "structure" but its structure that binds and holds people together for cause.

This discord is the antithesis of structure. It's almost like it was created so a bunch of forum smack talk could happen and the threads not get shut down, but then you realize everyone in there are buddy-buddy with each other and practically every single person ive seen post so far in this actual thread, are practically friends with each other. This devolves things into a childish circle jerk of "butt patting" and high school level giggle giggle snicker snicker trolling.

This discord is the equivalent of a youtube or subreddit rabbit hole where in the end, youre wondering where 20 mins of your life just went.

I felt it was my civil duty to accurately inform the people not in this late teens; early twenties generation of ESO players that populate this merry-go-round discord.

Scarlett_Princess

Someone told me you left a comment after I left mine and then there was a mass exodus.

I not only left the discord, but I've decided to follow the lead of other AD guilds and players, and have pulled my guild out of Sotha for as long as the toxic people remain there. There's a difference between two people having a troll with each other, and players actively bashing everyone that's not in their own guild, regardless of whether they're even in the same faction or not. And it's a shame to see some of the targets just rolling over and taking it, instead of leaving and refusing to be a part of it. All that does is encourage the negative behaviour and make others think it's okay.

Not only will this give EP and DC a chance to grow and flourish, it'll leave the toxic players there to show them that they really aren't anything special without the 'potato zergs' and '*** players' helping keep the map yellow.

It was a shame that the guild who went to EP side came back. The map was much healthier and AD were happy. Seems to be a drop in fun since they returned with their tails beween their legs.

I suggest joining other guilds discords for the opportunity of guild bonding. Everyone is welcome to join Drunk & Pantsless. Our General channel is open to everyone. We have other channels that are locked for guild members only. But it's a good opportunity to 'meet & greet'. We're an odd but friendly bunch, and would love to chat PvP with other factions. https://discord.gg/HEEAW6K

D0PAMINE

Kita wrote: »

Miss_Tiffany wrote: »

Kita wrote: »

3. I wonder what this picture below is, you cant lie.

That's not a ban. And yours have all been removed too. ZoS don't appreciate your saltiness on here as much as they don't appreciate my baiting (but you fall for it so easy ) . Is this why you struggle to differentiate between what competitive PvP and cheating is?

Oh okay, so its just a warning fair enough. I dont come on the forums much.

and to your response. What? Lol
we all know ESO isn't competetive, we can all tell because of the amount of glitches and how many patches PVP gets (zos doesnt care)

are you indirectly calling me cheats?

I fought you tonight on my toon Wulfenstein. Good fight, you're a beast

Taylor_MB

This is what happens to (attempted) night cappers.

https://youtu.be/7vrJdtvrASA

For anyone thinking this is unfair, this is the reality of a 3-way fight. When one team tries to do something as reprehensible as night cap/Emp, it is on the honour of the other 2 teams to stop them. Stop them we did.

esotoon

Taylor_MB wrote: »

For anyone thinking this is unfair, this is the reality of a 3-way fight. When one team tries to do something as reprehensible as night cap/Emp, it is on the honour of the other 2 teams to stop them. Stop them we did.

As justifications go that's a doozy.

You see that first screen shot in my post above, when DC were one keep away from getting Emp and Team Pumpkin turned up to stop us? It was taken at 00:59:11 PST on a Saturday night (Sunday morning). Nightcapping? LOL, I guess it's only the East coast that is allowed to play late at night?

Agrippa_Invisus

esotoon wrote: »

Taylor_MB wrote: »

For anyone thinking this is unfair, this is the reality of a 3-way fight. When one team tries to do something as reprehensible as night cap/Emp, it is on the honour of the other 2 teams to stop them. Stop them we did.

As justifications go that's a doozy.

You see that first screen shot in my post above, when DC were one keep away from getting Emp and Team Pumpkin turned up to stop us? It was taken at 00:59:11 PST on a Saturday night (Sunday morning). Nightcapping? LOL, I guess it's only the East coast that is allowed to play late at night?

If you're trying to cap emp, don't be surprised when both other factions decide to start stomping you in the groin.

Welcome to a three-way conflict.

casparian

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

esotoon wrote: »

Taylor_MB wrote: »

For anyone thinking this is unfair, this is the reality of a 3-way fight. When one team tries to do something as reprehensible as night cap/Emp, it is on the honour of the other 2 teams to stop them. Stop them we did.

As justifications go that's a doozy.

You see that first screen shot in my post above, when DC were one keep away from getting Emp and Team Pumpkin turned up to stop us? It was taken at 00:59:11 PST on a Saturday night (Sunday morning). Nightcapping? LOL, I guess it's only the East coast that is allowed to play late at night?

If you're trying to cap emp, don't be surprised when both other factions decide to start stomping you in the groin.

Welcome to a three-way conflict.

The missing context is that that hasn't been happening consistenty on Sotha Sil recently. Last week a sizeable EP group was fighting alongside the AD group that was pushing for Emp.

esotoon

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

If you're trying to cap emp, don't be surprised when both other factions decide to start stomping you in the groin.

Welcome to a three-way conflict.

Yeah, that's normal. That's not what we are talking about here though. Suggest you read back a page (Post #230 onwards, or back even further for a greater context of events that happened in the last campaign). Difficult to go into further detail through fear of getting the thread closed again but my post wasn't about EP Faction and AD Faction teaming up to stop DC Faction.

Scarlett_Princess

The day ZoS implements account faction locking for PvP will be the happiest day of my life.

rfennell_ESO

casparian wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

esotoon wrote: »

Taylor_MB wrote: »

For anyone thinking this is unfair, this is the reality of a 3-way fight. When one team tries to do something as reprehensible as night cap/Emp, it is on the honour of the other 2 teams to stop them. Stop them we did.

As justifications go that's a doozy.

You see that first screen shot in my post above, when DC were one keep away from getting Emp and Team Pumpkin turned up to stop us? It was taken at 00:59:11 PST on a Saturday night (Sunday morning). Nightcapping? LOL, I guess it's only the East coast that is allowed to play late at night?

If you're trying to cap emp, don't be surprised when both other factions decide to start stomping you in the groin.

Welcome to a three-way conflict.

The missing context is that that hasn't been happening consistenty on Sotha Sil recently. Last week a sizeable EP group was fighting alongside the AD group that was pushing for Emp.

The missing context is it's all one guild.

D0PAMINE

So were people just switching to whatever faction had the most keeps?

Taysa

The politics and BS on Sotha has gotten so out of control that PvP on that server just isn't fun anymore.

DL has moved to Vivec. Maybe when guilds stop faction hopping and kissing [snip] to faction hoppers (it's more than one guild on EP side), we'll consider a return. But until then? Nah.

Y'all enjoy Sotha, though. It was fun while it lasted.

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Vapirko

Taysa wrote: »

The politics and BS on Sotha has gotten so out of control that PvP on that server just isn't fun anymore.

DL has moved to Vivec. Maybe when guilds stop faction hopping and kissing [snip] to faction hoppers (it's more than one guild on EP side), we'll consider a return. But until then? Nah.

Y'all enjoy Sotha, though. It was fun while it lasted.

Why anyone wants to play in Sotha anymore Is beyond me. It makes people toxic who wouldn’t otherwise be that way. I remember getting salty nearly every session. After quitting this campaign I haven’t been annoyed more than a handful of times in months.

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Taysa

Vapirko wrote: »

Taysa wrote: »

The politics and BS on Sotha has gotten so out of control that PvP on that server just isn't fun anymore.

DL has moved to Vivec. Maybe when guilds stop faction hopping and kissing [snip] to faction hoppers (it's more than one guild on EP side), we'll consider a return. But until then? Nah.

Y'all enjoy Sotha, though. It was fun while it lasted.

Why anyone wants to play in Sotha anymore Is beyond me. It makes people toxic who wouldn’t otherwise be that way. I remember getting salty nearly every session. After quitting this campaign I haven’t been annoyed more than a handful of times in months.

We played there because we enjoy no-CP more than CP, but the faction hopping has gotten out of control.

I'll deal with cancer-points, lag and loading screens. At least there's PvP without it being an episode of Game of Thrones, which is what Sotha has turned into.

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Mihael

lol what is so wrong with faction hopping? I wish more people did this so that way I could play on my ad and wouldn't have to make ep characters just to pvp.

Rickter

Hey all, I want to give major props to AD for their sheer tenacity tonight. Had some great battles between Ash and Roebeck!

Definitely a change of pace, a welcomed one at that!

Taylor_MB

rfennell_ESO wrote: »

The missing context is it's all one guild.

One guild? I'm not even in the guild you reference (and I'm only 80% sure if I know the one you speak of) yet I made up 25% of the orgainised AD opposition.

No comment as to what happened previously as I spend most of my time in BG's, the fact is this night DC tied to roll an almost empty server with a 30 strong group and got double teamed as a result.

And when AD tries to do this, I jump on my EP and attempt to stop them also.

esotoon wrote: »

As justifications go that's a doozy.

You see that first screen shot in my post above, when DC were one keep away from getting Emp and Team Pumpkin turned up to stop us? It was taken at 00:59:11 PST on a Saturday night (Sunday morning). Nightcapping? LOL, I guess it's only the East coast that is allowed to play late at night?

Call it off-prime zerging or nightcapping it doesn't make a difference. Trying to PvDoor an almost dead server deserves this response.

esotoon

Taylor_MB wrote: »

esotoon wrote: »

As justifications go that's a doozy.

You see that first screen shot in my post above, when DC were one keep away from getting Emp and Team Pumpkin turned up to stop us? It was taken at 00:59:11 PST on a Saturday night (Sunday morning). Nightcapping? LOL, I guess it's only the East coast that is allowed to play late at night?

Call it off-prime zerging or nightcapping it doesn't make a difference. Trying to PvDoor an almost dead server deserves this response.

Up to this point we had had resistance all the way through from both AD and EP. AD numbers dropped off about 10 mins before that pic was taken because we had pushed them back but EP was still on. There was no "PVPDoor" going on that needed anyone coming to the servers rescue.

Kartalin

You have to understand that the campaign is still trying to recover from months of nonsense where particular DC guilds would purposely wait until most AD and EP players had logged to push the map and crown emp, make the map blue, retake any scrolls we were impudent enough to take, and camp the gates for easy AP where the we couldn't muster enough people at once to overcome them until midday. When enough resistance showed up, they would log out and the cycle would begin again.

Now that they've moved to Vivec (as we have too) that guild can't pull the same tricks there as far as we know. Hopefully Sotha can recover and return to a healthier state of balanced conflict, but that means at certain times all factions are going to need to show restraint in order to keep this going.

esotoon

Kartalin wrote: »

You have to understand that the campaign is still trying to recover from months of nonsense where particular DC guilds would purposely wait until most AD and EP players had logged to push the map and crown emp

I think most people here understand that fully. The trouble is, there is now a situation where a couple guilds have jumped into that vacuum left by that DC Guild and other guilds leaving (such as your own), to take advantage of it. Using the past crimes of DC as an excuse/cover (even though they, themselves, have used exactly the same tactics in the past) , along with the promise of 'smaller scale', 'better' PVP controlled by them, in order to get other EP/AD and even DC players onside.

Sitting together in the same discord channel, with characters from two factions at their command (allegedly they also tried, and failed to get any DC guild onside), they are able to try and control the whole map as best they can. Divvying up and *swapping* AP as and when they like for their own gain.

What they are doing is nothing to do with making a healthier Sotha.

Rickter

esotoon wrote: »

Kartalin wrote: »

You have to understand that the campaign is still trying to recover from months of nonsense where particular DC guilds would purposely wait until most AD and EP players had logged to push the map and crown emp

I think most people here understand that fully. The trouble is, there is now a situation where a couple guilds have jumped into that vacuum left by that DC Guild and other guilds leaving, to take advantage of it, and using past crimes by DC as an excuse in order to get other EP/AD players onside. (Even though they, themselves, have used exactly the same tactics in the past).

Sitting together in the same discord channel, with characters from two factions at their command, they are able to try and control the whole map as best they can. Divvying up and *swapping* AP as and when they like.

What they are doing is nothing to do with making a healthier Sotha.

I'd have to agree with @esotoon with this assessment. From what ive seen so far. keep in mind, i was in that discord for about 3 days LOL ive seen it.

anyways, lemme tell you what hapened to my last boss: He made a major financial plunder that was his fault because he didnt oversee the project prior to the drop-dead date. In the meeting, he tried to blame a guy that quit about 10 months ago. They told him: "you cant blame a guy that doesnt work here anymore"

Thats life bros and bras.

Stop blaming a guild that isnt here anymore. Change starts with you, right now. DC has a new face. Its the Vanguard of Justice also known as REQUIEM. There is a DC with fighting spirit, who will not bargain with the enemy, who will not shy away from a fight, who cares about campaign integrity.

esotoon

Rickter wrote: »

Stop blaming a guild that isnt here anymore. Change starts with you, right now.

Well said (and your analogy too).

It would be really good to see all the guilds, from all factions who used to play on Sotha, but left due to the actions of a few, follow Rickter's lead and come back and try again.

We all know what Kastav and Xarxes turned into. Sotha will go the same way without the intervention of the player base. And when it does, there will be no where left for anyone to play large scale non-cp AvAvA PVP.

gabriebe

That discord is a cringefest.

Taysa

I fail to see how Sotha is "recovering" when an AD guild beat the dead horse so bad that several guilds left for Vivec.

Scarlett_Princess

esotoon wrote: »

Sotha will go the same way without the intervention of the player base. And when it does, there will be no where left for anyone to play large scale non-cp AvAvA PVP.

I thought the intervention was for everyone to vacate Sotha and leave the twatwaffles behind, to show them that they are ultimately nothing without everyone they've been smack talking about there to help them, and to show that we disprove of their 'campaign swapping/dolly coddling/I'm better than everyone but really I want everyone's approval' behaviour. At least that's what I've gathered. I'm definitely in favour of what has transpired, and I will be on Vivec for an entire campaign. Might stay there for good since BGs are now CP too, and ZoS claims they've addressed lag issues in major combat instances. Already having a lot of fun there and loving the mature community. Will reassess when campaign ends.

For all the AD that have left, Vivec is applauding the move. They have been super low on AD numbers for some time, so the battles are great and we can finally play on a map that isn't always yellow, or only takes an hour to make yellow!