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[DATA MINING] New Item Sets!
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RoamingRiverElk✭✭✭✭✭Do all the sets come with decisive and sturdy, is another thing I'd like to know.Dalris Aalr - Magicka (Stamina) DK | Dalfish - Magicka Sorc | Dal Aalr - Magicka Warden | Dalrish - Mag/Stam NB | Irana Aalr - PvE Templar0 -
Wollust✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Does someone know by any chance if the sun set spell damage increase to fire damage is given before or after buffs?Susano'o
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RoyJade✭✭✭✭✭
✭Does someone know by any chance if the sun set spell damage increase to fire damage is given before or after buffs?
I'm not sure, but I think that you don't get a +400 spell damage when you use fire spell, but all you fire spell consider your spell damage +400 when you use them. That's mean fire ultimate will probably get the 400 spell damage, but no other ultimate won't.0 -
Wollust✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Does someone know by any chance if the sun set spell damage increase to fire damage is given before or after buffs?
I'm not sure, but I think that you don't get a +400 spell damage when you use fire spell, but all you fire spell consider your spell damage +400 when you use them. That's mean fire ultimate will probably get the 400 spell damage, but no other ultimate won't.
Well that is what I mean actually
Your fire spells behave as if they have 400 spell damage more, though I am wondering if that value is also buffed by major and minor sorcery?Susano'o
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Dracane✭✭✭✭✭
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Yes, shadow IS a pet.
Engine guardian is a pet, maw of the infernal, even ball of lightning is a pet and morkuldin.Edited by Dracane on July 5, 2016 12:50PMAuri-El is my lord,
Trinimac is my shield,
Magnus is my mind.
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RoyJade✭✭✭✭✭
✭Does someone know by any chance if the sun set spell damage increase to fire damage is given before or after buffs?
I'm not sure, but I think that you don't get a +400 spell damage when you use fire spell, but all you fire spell consider your spell damage +400 when you use them. That's mean fire ultimate will probably get the 400 spell damage, but no other ultimate won't.
Well that is what I mean actually
Your fire spells behave as if they have 400 spell damage more, though I am wondering if that value is also buffed by major and minor sorcery?
Oh, sorry, I misread ^^'
I don't know. Perhaps in a few, after the patch.0 -
Dracane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Does someone know by any chance if the sun set spell damage increase to fire damage is given before or after buffs?
I'm not sure, but I think that you don't get a +400 spell damage when you use fire spell, but all you fire spell consider your spell damage +400 when you use them. That's mean fire ultimate will probably get the 400 spell damage, but no other ultimate won't.
Well that is what I mean actually
Your fire spells behave as if they have 400 spell damage more, though I am wondering if that value is also buffed by major and minor sorcery?
It's like elemental succession, just worse
Auri-El is my lord,
Trinimac is my shield,
Magnus is my mind.
My debut album on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Gleandra/videos0 -
Ishammael✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Does someone know by any chance if the sun set spell damage increase to fire damage is given before or after buffs?
I'm not sure, but I think that you don't get a +400 spell damage when you use fire spell, but all you fire spell consider your spell damage +400 when you use them. That's mean fire ultimate will probably get the 400 spell damage, but no other ultimate won't.
Well that is what I mean actually
Your fire spells behave as if they have 400 spell damage more, though I am wondering if that value is also buffed by major and minor sorcery?
It's like elemental succession, just worse
Have you been able to test? Can you explain how the bonus damage is added?0 -
Dracane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Does someone know by any chance if the sun set spell damage increase to fire damage is given before or after buffs?
I'm not sure, but I think that you don't get a +400 spell damage when you use fire spell, but all you fire spell consider your spell damage +400 when you use them. That's mean fire ultimate will probably get the 400 spell damage, but no other ultimate won't.
Well that is what I mean actually
Your fire spells behave as if they have 400 spell damage more, though I am wondering if that value is also buffed by major and minor sorcery?
It's like elemental succession, just worse
Have you been able to test? Can you explain how the bonus damage is added?
It is not applied, it's always active.
All flame abilities simply gain 400 spell damage. Dots and direct hit abilities.
Sun is the best set for fire mages now. 400 spell damage is a huge bonus. Similar bonuses are usually only available for a short time and require you to do something ( molag van Kena, alchemist, enchant)
So 400 spell damage is less than these sets offer, but it has a 100% uptime for all your fire damage.Edited by Dracane on July 5, 2016 5:09PMAuri-El is my lord,
Trinimac is my shield,
Magnus is my mind.
My debut album on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Gleandra/videos0 -
RoyJade✭✭✭✭✭
✭Does someone know by any chance if the sun set spell damage increase to fire damage is given before or after buffs?
I'm not sure, but I think that you don't get a +400 spell damage when you use fire spell, but all you fire spell consider your spell damage +400 when you use them. That's mean fire ultimate will probably get the 400 spell damage, but no other ultimate won't.
Well that is what I mean actually
Your fire spells behave as if they have 400 spell damage more, though I am wondering if that value is also buffed by major and minor sorcery?
It's like elemental succession, just worse
Have you been able to test? Can you explain how the bonus damage is added?
It is not applied, it's always active.
All flame abilities simply gain 400 spell damage. Dots and direct hit abilities.
Sun is the best set for fire mages now. 400 spell damage is a huge bonus. Similar bonuses are usually only available for a short time and require you to do something ( molag van Kena, alchemist, enchant)
So 400 spell damage is less than these sets offer, but it has a 100% uptime for all your fire damage.
And even more : this set come with jewelries, so it can be combined with some other good set pretty easily.0 -
Ishammael✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Does someone know by any chance if the sun set spell damage increase to fire damage is given before or after buffs?
I'm not sure, but I think that you don't get a +400 spell damage when you use fire spell, but all you fire spell consider your spell damage +400 when you use them. That's mean fire ultimate will probably get the 400 spell damage, but no other ultimate won't.
Well that is what I mean actually
Your fire spells behave as if they have 400 spell damage more, though I am wondering if that value is also buffed by major and minor sorcery?
It's like elemental succession, just worse
Have you been able to test? Can you explain how the bonus damage is added?
It is not applied, it's always active.
All flame abilities simply gain 400 spell damage. Dots and direct hit abilities.
Sun is the best set for fire mages now. 400 spell damage is a huge bonus. Similar bonuses are usually only available for a short time and require you to do something ( molag van Kena, alchemist, enchant)
So 400 spell damage is less than these sets offer, but it has a 100% uptime for all your fire damage.
I understand the 100% uptime.
Question is more nuanced than I actually asked:
1. Can it benefit from Sorcery buff?
2. Is it added before or after CP multipliers? (e.g. to your char's base spell damage)
3. How does it interact w/ Dunmer +7% fire dmg or Altmer + 4% elemental damage.1 -
Suru✭✭✭✭
We don't have Suru, but we got a special guest
@EgoRush you better get ready for vdsaandypappb16_ESO wrote: »Paulington wrote: »New Dungeon Sets:Storm Knight:
@Paulington
Hey there, thanks a lot for your effort!
The Set I quoted was one I was especially excited for. But in the patch notes we read thisStorm Knight’s Plate: Increased the proc chance on this item set to 10%, up from 5%, and significantly increased the proc’s Shock Damage. Also, updated this item set’s 3- and 4-piece bonuses to provide Spell Resistance and Max Health, respectively, rather than providing Spell Damage for both.
On your datamined set the damage looks like it has been reduced by about 85%(!) actually, when thinking about the Set as we have it on Live currently (with CP120 or CP130 as highest Level, it procs for 7k+ !).
Did you by chance make a mistake? Or was it ZOS and they meant to write 11700 instead xD.
And did you find out if it comes with all Weapons and all Jewelry?
It procs for 7K or the tool tip marks it for 7K? We all know how dodgy tool tips can be. Might be that once spell damage/penetration/buffs are all accounted for that the damage will be higher maybe?
We'll need to form a new team now Xantaria isn't with us. Me, @Alcast and Yolo will be ready and waiting though I'm wondering whether they will make the portals immune to damage like in Maelstrom.
@Nifty2g i believe in you guys >:D Nifty best team drafter NAEdited by Suru on July 5, 2016 8:27PM
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clocksstoppe✭✭✭✭✭
✭Tested sun vs julianos on pts template dk dunmer, I'm quite surprised, sun beats julianos in a vacuum.
Julianos: light attack (crit) 3473, molten whip (crit) 11203, crit% 63.4, spell damage 2172 (+400 invisible)
Sun:........light attack (crit) 3757, molten whip (crit) 11897, crit% 57.1, spell damage 2342
Assuming we would fire 1 molten whip per second and nothing else, DPS :
Julianos 7952
Sun........8007
Now the question is, is it worth it to replace Skoria/ Monster helm + Willpower with the Sun set + 1 pc monster (Kena)? I need the damn jewelry to find out.
EDIT: I should probably mention that when factoring in aggressive horn, igneous, etc, I assume Julianos is still better however you can run both if you sacrifice the 2 pc monster helm OR sacrifice destro staff for dw.Edited by clocksstoppe on July 5, 2016 8:38PM0 -
tist✭✭✭Necropotence+Destruction mastery+Master inferno.
Hoping one of those sets have jewelry because that will be a hilarious amount of max magicka.0 -
Eterminix✭✭@Paulington do you happen to have a link to that thread?
AD Kausarvex V16 DK
AD Vex Luthor V9 Sorceror
AD Tyrannosaurus Vex V8 Templar
AD Raenne Davari Vex V7 Nightblade
DC Kalliera Davari Vex 23 DK
DC Saskra Davari Vex 7 Sorceror0 -
GilGalad✭✭✭✭✭@Paulington do you happen to have a link to that thread?
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/3123647/#Comment_31236470 -
Eterminix✭✭Thanks Gil.GaladEdited by Eterminix on July 5, 2016 11:18PMAD Kausarvex V16 DK
AD Vex Luthor V9 Sorceror
AD Tyrannosaurus Vex V8 Templar
AD Raenne Davari Vex V7 Nightblade
DC Kalliera Davari Vex 23 DK
DC Saskra Davari Vex 7 Sorceror0 -
Master_Kas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Does someone know by any chance if the sun set spell damage increase to fire damage is given before or after buffs?
I'm not sure, but I think that you don't get a +400 spell damage when you use fire spell, but all you fire spell consider your spell damage +400 when you use them. That's mean fire ultimate will probably get the 400 spell damage, but no other ultimate won't.
Well that is what I mean actually
Your fire spells behave as if they have 400 spell damage more, though I am wondering if that value is also buffed by major and minor sorcery?
It's like elemental succession, just worse
Have you been able to test? Can you explain how the bonus damage is added?
It is not applied, it's always active.
All flame abilities simply gain 400 spell damage. Dots and direct hit abilities.
Sun is the best set for fire mages now. 400 spell damage is a huge bonus. Similar bonuses are usually only available for a short time and require you to do something ( molag van Kena, alchemist, enchant)
So 400 spell damage is less than these sets offer, but it has a 100% uptime for all your fire damage.
Does it work with fire destro light/heavy attacks?
Got to try it with a dunmer nb Or dk If it does .EU | PC0 -
EgoRush✭✭✭✭
We don't have Suru, but we got a special guest
@EgoRush you better get ready for vdsaandypappb16_ESO wrote: »Paulington wrote: »New Dungeon Sets:Storm Knight:
@Paulington
Hey there, thanks a lot for your effort!
The Set I quoted was one I was especially excited for. But in the patch notes we read thisStorm Knight’s Plate: Increased the proc chance on this item set to 10%, up from 5%, and significantly increased the proc’s Shock Damage. Also, updated this item set’s 3- and 4-piece bonuses to provide Spell Resistance and Max Health, respectively, rather than providing Spell Damage for both.
On your datamined set the damage looks like it has been reduced by about 85%(!) actually, when thinking about the Set as we have it on Live currently (with CP120 or CP130 as highest Level, it procs for 7k+ !).
Did you by chance make a mistake? Or was it ZOS and they meant to write 11700 instead xD.
And did you find out if it comes with all Weapons and all Jewelry?
It procs for 7K or the tool tip marks it for 7K? We all know how dodgy tool tips can be. Might be that once spell damage/penetration/buffs are all accounted for that the damage will be higher maybe?
We'll need to form a new team now Xantaria isn't with us. Me, @Alcast and Yolo will be ready and waiting though I'm wondering whether they will make the portals immune to damage like in Maelstrom.
@Nifty2g i believe in you guys >:D Nifty best team drafter NA
No chance :P we have the perfect team worked out already. See you on the leaderboards!Server: EU Pact
Guild: Hodor (PvE - www.hodor-guild.eu), Chimaira (PvE)
Character: Oriantha (Templar Healer), Zelda's Inferno (Dragonknight Tank), The Lumen Sage (Stamina Sorcerer DD), The Umbra Witch (Magicka Nightblade DD), Flirts-With-Boys (Stamina Nightblade DD), Oriantha Ellesidil (Magicka Sorcerer DD/healer), Wariantha (Magicka Warden in the making)
Current vMA score (Templar): Pending return to game
World Record for all trials pre-Thieves Guild
World first V16 Maw of Lorkhaj clear
World first V16 Maw of Lorkhaj speed run clear
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Dracane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Does someone know by any chance if the sun set spell damage increase to fire damage is given before or after buffs?
I'm not sure, but I think that you don't get a +400 spell damage when you use fire spell, but all you fire spell consider your spell damage +400 when you use them. That's mean fire ultimate will probably get the 400 spell damage, but no other ultimate won't.
Well that is what I mean actually
Your fire spells behave as if they have 400 spell damage more, though I am wondering if that value is also buffed by major and minor sorcery?
It's like elemental succession, just worse
Have you been able to test? Can you explain how the bonus damage is added?
It is not applied, it's always active.
All flame abilities simply gain 400 spell damage. Dots and direct hit abilities.
Sun is the best set for fire mages now. 400 spell damage is a huge bonus. Similar bonuses are usually only available for a short time and require you to do something ( molag van Kena, alchemist, enchant)
So 400 spell damage is less than these sets offer, but it has a 100% uptime for all your fire damage.
I understand the 100% uptime.
Question is more nuanced than I actually asked:
1. Can it benefit from Sorcery buff?
2. Is it added before or after CP multipliers? (e.g. to your char's base spell damage)
3. How does it interact w/ Dunmer +7% fire dmg or Altmer + 4% elemental damage.
Base values are always applied first, percentages after that. So yes, it works with elemental expert and dunmer.
It profits from major sorcery
And what do you mean with CP mults ? CP only add max magicka. 300 CP add 4299 magicka.
This does not affect sun obviously
@Master_Kas Yes, it does Edited by Dracane on July 6, 2016 11:13AMAuri-El is my lord,
Trinimac is my shield,
Magnus is my mind.
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Dracane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Necropotence+Destruction mastery+Master inferno.
Hoping one of those sets have jewelry because that will be a hilarious amount of max magicka.
No master staff does not give you any benefits.
5 pieces of necropotence and destruction noobery require 10slots
So 3 yewelry and 7 armor or 3 yewelry, 6 armor and 1 weapon.
Keep in mind that both only come in light armor.
You are already forced to loose 1 undaunted (2% magicka)
If you want the master weapon, you need another one and loose another 2% magicka
AND you loose the damage of an enchant. The master staff will end up giving you maybe 300 or 400 Magicka more because of that.
So it's advised to go for 3 yewelry of necro, 1 weapon and 1 armor and then 5 pieces destuction and 1 molag kena in heavy.
And at this point, I want to say that everyone who still uses a master or maelstrom weapon is a bit bad at math. You guys are too obsessed with stats. Damage enchants are so strong now, that they highly outperform a single spell damage bonus. Of course this is not true when using a melstrom staff with wall of elements. But besides that..... please drop them and take a normal set piece staff.
Master and Maelstrom weapons are ONLY good if you use them in combination with their intended ability. if you don't, then use a weapon with a damage enchant on it if you want max damage output. Because at the end of the day, the damage you have dealt to your target matters and not the numbers on your character sheet.Edited by Dracane on July 6, 2016 11:40AMAuri-El is my lord,
Trinimac is my shield,
Magnus is my mind.
My debut album on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Gleandra/videos0 -
Paulington✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭yournympho wrote: »Will the dragon guard set get rings?
As mentioned by the Dungeon Lead (Mike Finnigan), all updated Trial/Dungeon sets come in all armour slots, weapons and jewellery, so yes.0 -
Dracane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Does anyone know, if gold yewelry will come with weekly rewards ? Such as gold sun and necropotence rings for example ?Auri-El is my lord,
Trinimac is my shield,
Magnus is my mind.
My debut album on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Gleandra/videos0
