[DATA MINING] New Item Sets!

Dracane · June 2016

Storm Knight is still nothing more than lightning form for poor people

Izaki · June 2016

Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn Amberplasm is going to look real nice on my sorcerer !!!!!!!!!!!! Just hoping that it has jewelry ! :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Izaki · June 2016

DDuke wrote: »

@Paulington did you find anything about the Yokeda/Aether/Ophidian sets?

I'd be very surprised if they didn't scale them up as well, as they'd make sense as vet mode incentives for AA/Hel Ra.

Well Ophidian is scaled already, I'm still trying to put together a 5 piece of Skirmisher's Bite and another 5 piece of Vicious Serpent. So far only have 3 items with the right traits (after a couple of runs and buying them off guildies)

So Aether and Yokeda probably scale too now, I'm pretty sure they did say that all sets from those two trials would scale to CP160.

juhasman · June 2016

IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »

Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn Amberplasm is going to look real nice on my sorcerer !!!!!!!!!!!! Just hoping that it has jewelry ! :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Jewelery and weapons

The-Baconator · June 2016

Does anyone know if the sets that were scaled up in AA and Hel Ra are dropping in impen?

Master_Fluff · June 2016

Jewellery and weapons even for the revamped old sets?!?!? 5 Warlock, 1 monster set, 5 crafted whatever seems not impossible to have fun with later in the year.

Derra · June 2016

ToRelax wrote: »

Cinbri wrote: »

olsborg wrote: »

Amberplasm seems kinda OP, just my initial reaction..

OP, or just what small-scalers needed

Meh. Don't want to recraft my Willow's staffs.

But. If these sets do have jewelry. Welcome back Warlock, Syrabane, Dragonguard, Sun. Mazzatun and Velidreth's might be interesting as well.

Amberplasm is certainly tempting (but if it´s a drop set i won´t get my hopes up). Warlock and syrabane are kinda meh compared to lich imo.
I really like them making necropotence desireable.
Also haj mota is something i´d like to give a try given i don´t longer have room on my bars for boundless storm.

First time i like the new set design.

Dracane · June 2016

Derra wrote: »

ToRelax wrote: »

Cinbri wrote: »

olsborg wrote: »

Amberplasm seems kinda OP, just my initial reaction..

OP, or just what small-scalers needed

Meh. Don't want to recraft my Willow's staffs.

But. If these sets do have jewelry. Welcome back Warlock, Syrabane, Dragonguard, Sun. Mazzatun and Velidreth's might be interesting as well.

Amberplasm is certainly tempting (but if it´s a drop set i won´t get my hopes up). Warlock and syrabane are kinda meh compared to lich imo.
I really like them making necropotence desireable.
Also haj mota is something i´d like to give a try given i don´t longer have room on my bars for boundless storm.

First time i like the new set design.

I agree. Lich clearly beats Warlock and Syrabane.
Warlock and Lich share the same 2-4 piece stats and Lich grants roughly 1100 Magicka regen for 20 seconds and that is boosted by passives and CP.
So at least 11000 Magicka in 1 minute (as I said, unbuffed). Warlock only gives a bit over 8000 per minute.

Syrabane is not even desirable for magicka builds imo, because we can't block much. I only see it being usefull for DKs and Templars who seem to be able to block forever as Magicka builds for some reason and they sure have better sets than Syrabane.
At least Syrabane was a glorious hero of Summerset

So I still love him

Xsorus · June 2016

I'm thinking of doing Dark Stride Boots on my Stam Sorc; cause I want Perma Sprint lol

Izaki · June 2016

juhasman wrote: »

IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »

Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn Amberplasm is going to look real nice on my sorcerer !!!!!!!!!!!! Just hoping that it has jewelry ! :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Jewelery and weapons

You sir have made my day. Seducer, Amberplasm and Molag Kena here we go. Sustain til the end of days.

ToRelax · June 2016

Derra wrote: »

ToRelax wrote: »

Cinbri wrote: »

olsborg wrote: »

Amberplasm seems kinda OP, just my initial reaction..

OP, or just what small-scalers needed

Meh. Don't want to recraft my Willow's staffs.

But. If these sets do have jewelry. Welcome back Warlock, Syrabane, Dragonguard, Sun. Mazzatun and Velidreth's might be interesting as well.

Amberplasm is certainly tempting (but if it´s a drop set i won´t get my hopes up). Warlock and syrabane are kinda meh compared to lich imo.
I really like them making necropotence desireable.
Also haj mota is something i´d like to give a try given i don´t longer have room on my bars for boundless storm.

First time i like the new set design.

My fault, thinking of Amberplasm as a crafted set for some reason. With both rings and necklace, I could combine it with Lich... more grinding. x)

As for Syrabane - well it got a gcd now, but still not bad. And with the loss of the heavy armor block cost reduction, 5 heavy won't be so important, thus it could be made use of even if it doesn't come with full jewelry.

WillhelmBlack · June 2016

Velidreths Mask and Kena Shoulder. That's 258 weapon power for 2 slots. Stamina needed this buff

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Jeckll · June 2016

DDuke wrote: »

That is sad news, I hope they'll scale them up before patch goes Live. These sets & the weapon/jewelry 3-sets + the possible changes to them are what kept me hyped about AA/Hel Ra being scaled up

Was waiting for Twice-Fanged Serpent as well

HeroOfNone · June 2016

Hey, has anyone seen hide of the Werewolf? UT was supposedly getting a change and u thought an upgrade to CP 160

Hide of the Werewolf: Updated this item set’s 2-, 3-, and 4-piece bonuses to provide Max Health, Max Stamina, and Weapon Damage, respectively, rather than providing Physical Resist, Max Health, and Max Stamina.

Paulington · June 2016

HeroOfNone wrote: »

Hey, has anyone seen hide of the Werewolf? UT was supposedly getting a change and u thought an upgrade to CP 160

Hide of the Werewolf: Updated this item set’s 2-, 3-, and 4-piece bonuses to provide Max Health, Max Stamina, and Weapon Damage, respectively, rather than providing Physical Resist, Max Health, and Max Stamina.

HeroOfNone · June 2016

Thanks!

DDuke · June 2016

Hmm... that looks interesting on the first glance, but then you compare it to Tava's Blessing:

5) When you dodge an attack you receive the blessing of Tava and gain 9 Ultimate over 3 seconds.

so 3 ulti/s

vs

5) Generate 5 Ultimate when damaged. This effect can occur once very 5 seconds.

1 ulti/s

I think Werewolf Hide set should get buffed on that basis & grant atleast 15 ulti when damaged (or cooldown reduced to 2 seconds~).

dimensional · June 2016

Armitas wrote: »

Velidreths mask should have spell damage on it if molag kena is going to have weapon and spell damage.

Yeah and every set that only does spell damage or magic damage should have weapon damage as well, because reasons.

This whole idea that we need 100% parity with every single set is just stupid.

DDuke · June 2016

Did anyone post the updated Master weapons yet? Really curious if they've changed the values on anything.

FooWasHere · June 2016

Rex-Umbra wrote: »

My pet sorc needs necropotance. How is it achieved?

According to the patch notes: "drop in Hel Ra Citadel at Champion 160".

-Foo

Lyudorashi · June 2016

DDuke wrote: »

5) When you dodge an attack you receive the blessing of Tava and gain 9 Ultimate over 3 seconds.
so 3 ulti/s

Only if you are going to spam roll-dodge to get that buff constantly, if not, its uptime is way less and varies hugely in different encounters.

Paulington · June 2016

DDuke wrote: »

Did anyone post the updated Master weapons yet? Really curious if they've changed the values on anything.

The Master's Dagger:

The Master's Sword:

The Master's Bow:

The Master's Greatsword:

The Master's Restoration Staff:

The Master's Inferno Staff:

DDuke · June 2016

Lyudorashi wrote: »

DDuke wrote: »

5) When you dodge an attack you receive the blessing of Tava and gain 9 Ultimate over 3 seconds.
so 3 ulti/s

Only if you are going to spam roll-dodge to get that buff constantly, if not, its uptime is way less and varies hugely in different encounters.

It doesn't proc from Shuffle dodges?

DDuke · June 2016

Thanks @Paulington

Seems like some have been nerfed a little bit(?)

I remember bow giving well over 300 weapon damage for example pre-patch, but I might be wrong.

Lyudorashi · June 2016

DDuke wrote: »

Lyudorashi wrote: »

DDuke wrote: »

5) When you dodge an attack you receive the blessing of Tava and gain 9 Ultimate over 3 seconds.
so 3 ulti/s

Only if you are going to spam roll-dodge to get that buff constantly, if not, its uptime is way less and varies hugely in different encounters.

It doesn't proc from Shuffle dodges?

It does, but you wont be dodging every 3 seconds with just shuffle. You also cant proc that buff while it is already up.

Emma_Overload · June 2016

Tyrion87 wrote: »

So basically none of the new monster sets can be used by magicka users...

Looking at those sets, there's nothing interesting for magicka builds at all.

I'll stick to my julianos/kena/willpower sets for the next couple of months then.

Take a closer look at the Destruction Mastery set. It's a better set than Julianos. That 2400 extra magicka is equivalent to 229 spell damage.

HeroOfNone · June 2016

DDuke wrote: »

Hmm... that looks interesting on the first glance, but then you compare it to Tava's Blessing:

5) When you dodge an attack you receive the blessing of Tava and gain 9 Ultimate over 3 seconds.

so 3 ulti/s

vs

5) Generate 5 Ultimate when damaged. This effect can occur once very 5 seconds.

1 ulti/s

I think Werewolf Hide set should get buffed on that basis & grant atleast 15 ulti when damaged (or cooldown reduced to 2 seconds~).

Remember that werewolf hide comes in at least rings, if not more in this patch. You may be able to have werewolf hide, tava's favor, and blood spawn all up at once and all 3 cool down timers going while you get ultimate. With decisive, that would probably be the best ultimate gainer in the game?

The question I have though is it better than dragon crest with 15% cost reduction.

DDuke · June 2016

Lyudorashi wrote: »

DDuke wrote: »

Lyudorashi wrote: »

DDuke wrote: »

5) When you dodge an attack you receive the blessing of Tava and gain 9 Ultimate over 3 seconds.
so 3 ulti/s

Only if you are going to spam roll-dodge to get that buff constantly, if not, its uptime is way less and varies hugely in different encounters.

It doesn't proc from Shuffle dodges?

It does, but you wont be dodging every 3 seconds with just shuffle. You also cant proc that buff while it is already up.

Well, in PvE that depends on how many mobs you have attacking on you :P

But in PvP, your shuffle will make you dodge pretty much every second.

That said, you might be right that it's well balanced as far as PvE goes. Last thing I'd want to see is even more fotm medium armor sets for tanks.

Emma_Overload wrote: »

Tyrion87 wrote: »

So basically none of the new monster sets can be used by magicka users...

Looking at those sets, there's nothing interesting for magicka builds at all.

I'll stick to my julianos/kena/willpower sets for the next couple of months then.

Take a closer look at the Destruction Mastery set. It's a better set than Julianos. That 2400 extra magicka is equivalent to 229 spell damage.

Not sure if sarcasm, but Julianos gives you 300 spell damage as 5-set bonus. 375 if you want to get specific & add Major+Minor Sorcery. Sorcs can get that value even higher by having sorc skills on bar.

The most you'll have from Destruction Mastery is 2400+(Racial Passive +10%+Bound Aegis 8%+Inner Light 7%+Undaunted 6%)->3144. Though you can add Sturdy Horn as well & increase that to 3384 I suppose.

The one benefit Destruction Mastery does have though is that unlike spell dmg, magicka affects your dmg shield strength as well, but it's still a very weak set compared to something like Necropotence.

Dracane · June 2016

Emma_Overload wrote: »

Tyrion87 wrote: »

So basically none of the new monster sets can be used by magicka users...

Looking at those sets, there's nothing interesting for magicka builds at all.

I'll stick to my julianos/kena/willpower sets for the next couple of months then.

Take a closer look at the Destruction Mastery set. It's a better set than Julianos. That 2400 extra magicka is equivalent to 229 spell damage.

One downside though, it only comes in light armor. Julianos is crafted so you can choose freely.
Some setups might loose undaunted passives due to that liddle fact.

Emma_Overload · June 2016

DDuke wrote: »

Lyudorashi wrote: »

DDuke wrote: »

Lyudorashi wrote: »

DDuke wrote: »

5) When you dodge an attack you receive the blessing of Tava and gain 9 Ultimate over 3 seconds.
so 3 ulti/s

Only if you are going to spam roll-dodge to get that buff constantly, if not, its uptime is way less and varies hugely in different encounters.

It doesn't proc from Shuffle dodges?

It does, but you wont be dodging every 3 seconds with just shuffle. You also cant proc that buff while it is already up.

Well, in PvE that depends on how many mobs you have attacking on you :P

But in PvP, your shuffle will make you dodge pretty much every second.

That said, you might be right that it's well balanced as far as PvE goes. Last thing I'd want to see is even more fotm medium armor sets for tanks.

Emma_Overload wrote: »

Tyrion87 wrote: »

So basically none of the new monster sets can be used by magicka users...

Looking at those sets, there's nothing interesting for magicka builds at all.

I'll stick to my julianos/kena/willpower sets for the next couple of months then.

Take a closer look at the Destruction Mastery set. It's a better set than Julianos. That 2400 extra magicka is equivalent to 229 spell damage.

Not sure if sarcasm, but Julianos gives you 300 spell damage as 5-set bonus. 375 if you want to get specific & add Major+Minor Sorcery. Sorcs can get that value even higher by having sorc skills on bar.

The most you'll have from Destruction Mastery is 2400+(Racial Passive +10%+Bound Aegis 8%+Inner Light 7%+Undaunted 6%)->3144. Though you can add Sturdy Horn as well & increase that to 3384 I suppose.

The one benefit Destruction Mastery does have though is that unlike spell dmg, magicka affects your dmg shield strength as well, but it's still a very weak set compared to something like Necropotence.

Why are you only counting the 5th piece bonus in your calculation? Destruction Mastery also has a 4th piece bonus that gives you 129 spell damage. The crit bonuses on both sets aren't worth jack in PvP, so I would consider DM better than Julianos overall.