Ahtu wrote: »

Reminds me of when a certain AD leader got fed AP by his AD friends on EP so that he would be crowned Emperor instead of me last campaign. This is why we can't have nice things because people will gain the system to try and mess with someone who is playing the game normally for fun for to satisfy their own insecurities and egos. Direct your frustrations toward them not ZOS who is actually doing something about the issue so that players like me can enjoy the game in peace without exploiters trying to screw with us.

Lol, Crown literally just played in a small group and flipped resources in-between player encounters. The fact you're accusing him of "exploiting" just tells me you don't understand how basic AP gains work. AP from kills is divided amongst all players participating in that kill. When you have 50+ people, you're only going to get at most 100-200 AP for a kill, Crown and his wife duoing will get 1,500-2,500 per kill, and the defensive and offensive ticks will give them significantly more credit per player as well.

If you want to get to #1 on the Leaderboard, you're not going to get it by stacking inside of 50 other people. You'll get it by playing a ridiculous number of hours, and farming kills and resources solo or in a small group. That's mechanically how the system has worked for years now, that's why Afro was able to hold Emp for EP for seemingly every Vivec cycle for the past year - dude just plays a ton, mostly in solo or small group settings, and when he did play in a larger group, it was one that ran 16 people - not 60. Again, more AP per hour.

If anything, the fact that you couldn't catch him, despite him not dedicating 100% of his time to EP, when you were, just shows that you were being remarkably inefficient with your time.

Stacking inside 50 people is the tactic you settle on when you want to physically flip the map to actually crown the Emperor - anyone who's gotten Emp in a tight race for first over the years will tell you that actually jumping in to try to flip those keeps results in a massive decline in AP gain, giving an opportunity to the guy in #2 to catch up. It's happened to me, it's happened to hundreds of players. Now it's happened to you, although you were never really close.

Stop trying to excuse your own failures by blindly accusing others of "exploiting". Try harder next time, and be smart about it, and if you're good, you'll have no issue.

@Ahtu My EP Templar was the last toon that I had never emped before, so took the opportunity knowing that faction locks were coming. What Ixtyr said is about right. You make a LOT more AP constantly moving in a small group than in a large one. There are also a few tricks to applying debuffs to opponents or buffs to allies in order to get more of the total AP from kills, but you still have to be there to get them. You're right that flipping resources is boring, but it's good AP in the middle of killing things. You also have to know when to leave and ignore the map.. after killing people they're not worth AP for 5 mins, so if you go off a good bomb/wipe, go fight other things and come back later. If you stay in the same place, you're not making points.

Glory wrote: »

It's a midday weekend, Vivec is 3-Lock-3 on PC NA, every other campaign is 0 across the board.

EP has the majority of the map. I have been playing on EP with a group of friends, and because the factions are so unbalanced currently we are moving to fight on DC.

With faction locks, we'd be forced to

• Help push other factions to the gates, eliminating all PvP without much challenge.
• Play on a dead campaign.
• Log off or do something else.

How does this align with people's claims of spreading factions, etc.?

Well said.

Faction locks, if they go live, will make ESO PvP much less attractive.

Here’s a thought, how about we try it out for a month and if it doesn’t work we can always go back... that beats whining about something that’s changed before *grin*.

pcar944 wrote: »

so just plan your characters, who and where you main, its easy

Planning will not change the fact that faction locks, if they go live, will restrict options in playing together with different groups of friends and will restrict the options of going where we can find good fights even more. They will be enormously frustrating for many of the people who currently play on a daily basis.

pzschrek wrote: »

I think it's important to understand that the devs have made it pretty clear by their actions that they hope the veteran pvp players will just go away.

The things they do make a lot more sense when you understand that you aren't really their customer and they don't care about what you want.

They want us out of their game, we are a stone that annoys their progress and economy system, all they just want is casual and tryhard pvers in instances doing all achievements and draining the crown store

Yesterday:

The implementation is not very good. I’d have no issue if there was an unlocked noCP campaign, 7 day or no. But that I should be forced to play either CP PvP or IC with all my alts is pure [snip]

[edited for profanity bypass]