Is eso dead

Linaleah · April 2018

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Population isn't down, the game appears to be quite populated to me, often so much, that I log out to play at a later time, when not that many are all over the place and I can do a quest without the enemies all dead already. So from my personal experience it is very busy and there is not an end to ESO for years to come. Maybe "end game" is a bit stale, I don'T know, because I will never get any near to it. To me ESO is enjoying the game world with mostly blue gear, a few pieces purple and for this "average guy" gameplay ESO is fine as it is. I don't care about the "elite", because those are just a few percent and guess what?- the game is mainly made for the 95%, who will not become elite anytime soon if ever. Those guys who do not consume a region within a couple of hours, which took many months to create - this is the lasting population long term.

Population is down. One day you will have all the gear and achievements you wanted. At that point you will have a good hard look at what eso has to offer. Its not pretty.

Been watching this forum since launch. Started participating a few years back. Everything thats been said has been said many many times over the years. The smarter people seemed to have left

citation needed.

DieAlteHexe · April 2018

Linaleah wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Population isn't down, the game appears to be quite populated to me, often so much, that I log out to play at a later time, when not that many are all over the place and I can do a quest without the enemies all dead already. So from my personal experience it is very busy and there is not an end to ESO for years to come. Maybe "end game" is a bit stale, I don'T know, because I will never get any near to it. To me ESO is enjoying the game world with mostly blue gear, a few pieces purple and for this "average guy" gameplay ESO is fine as it is. I don't care about the "elite", because those are just a few percent and guess what?- the game is mainly made for the 95%, who will not become elite anytime soon if ever. Those guys who do not consume a region within a couple of hours, which took many months to create - this is the lasting population long term.

Population is down. One day you will have all the gear and achievements you wanted. At that point you will have a good hard look at what eso has to offer. Its not pretty.

Been watching this forum since launch. Started participating a few years back. Everything thats been said has been said many many times over the years. The smarter people seemed to have left

citation needed.

Seriously. Even out in the middle of nowhere, almost always encounter others. Didn't used to be that way. I kind of like it.

themaddaedra · April 2018

karekiz · April 2018

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Its not lack of things to do. Its just all old. Every dungeon is basically the same thing. Trash mobs to boss. Boss has a mechanic but once you know it, its easy mode.

I am confused here. Figuring out how to deal with the mechanic. That is how every single encounter in any MMO works.

Some might have something as simple as "Meet DPS check here" - Patchwerk from WoW
Some might have something as simple as "Meet the tank/heal check here" - Avatar of War from EQ
Some might have something as simple as "Go here - Do this" - Basically every modern raid in all MMO's

Once you have the gear/script its easy. It is how scripted encounters work.

SydneyGrey · April 2018

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Population is down.

No it's not, and here's proof. These are the monthly numbers of Steam players, and you can plainly see that the population hasn't gone down at all over the past year, and is WAAAYYY up from what it was before Nov. 2016. These numbers only include people playing on Steam, not other platforms, but I use it because it's the only site that shows some real numbers. Basically, you want so badly to be right, that you are disregarding actual evidence you're not.
http://steamcharts.com/app/306130

Vampiresmile · April 2018

I believe this game is the best of its kind on the console right now! I’ve tried some of the other mmo games available such as neverwinter and Star Trek online and whilst fun and different none of them can compete with level Of depth of this game. My suggestion if your bored with this game is go play somthing else completely different and come back it!

Beardimus · April 2018

Nope, but threads saying ESO is dead have been dead since 2014.....

Just resub to WoW you won't be missed.

Lysette · April 2018

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Population isn't down, the game appears to be quite populated to me, often so much, that I log out to play at a later time, when not that many are all over the place and I can do a quest without the enemies all dead already. So from my personal experience it is very busy and there is not an end to ESO for years to come. Maybe "end game" is a bit stale, I don'T know, because I will never get any near to it. To me ESO is enjoying the game world with mostly blue gear, a few pieces purple and for this "average guy" gameplay ESO is fine as it is. I don't care about the "elite", because those are just a few percent and guess what?- the game is mainly made for the 95%, who will not become elite anytime soon if ever. Those guys who do not consume a region within a couple of hours, which took many months to create - this is the lasting population long term.

Population is down. One day you will have all the gear and achievements you wanted. At that point you will have a good hard look at what eso has to offer. Its not pretty.

Been watching this forum since launch. Started participating a few years back. Everything thats been said has been said many many times over the years. The smarter people seemed to have left

I play in a totally different way than you think I would. There is no gear which I would want, I play with what I can craft myself or what I find. I am not grinding, I am just playing the game, enjoying the landscape and what ZOS has created. I am as well not interested into achievements, even I would like to have the colors, but I am not stressing that just to get those colors, I am fine even with not that many colors. And I stopped using add-ons, because I felt, that it takes away from the experience of exploration and discovery. So I really have to keep my eyes open to spot a skyshard or look for places where a lore book can be found. I am not running from marker to marker.

I am still playing TES:Oblivion and TES:Skyrim, even I have hundreds of hours in those games played already. And ESO will close it's doors before I will even have played most of it - I am just not rushing through it, I have currently 13 characters and I value each of them and give them the time to become their own - this might sound silly to you maybe, but my RPG experience is, that characters end up not becoming what you intended them for, but they develop an own way to exist in the game world, which defies your original intention of their very purpose. It might be, that just role players can make this experience, because they play from the perspective of their characters, and not from the meta-level (player). So if I create a new character, he or she will over time develop his/her own story and way to play and it will be different from the others - so I cannot run out of things to play or to try before ESO will finally close it's doors - it's just not possible.

P.S:: IF you play a multitude of games - like I do - each of those have always enough content to never run out of it. Just when you stubbornly stick to just one game and play it for far too many hours each day, you get to the point, where you are oversaturated and the content is getting stale. It is like you would eat the same every day, all days - the recipe is to not focus too much on just one game.

ArchMikem · April 2018

Oh. Another one of these threads I see.

Don't ask for others to tell you it's dead or not. If it's dead to you, then it's dead to you.

iannotinbjing · April 2018

Yes it ... sorry, wrong question, yes it is just about dinner time in my part of the world.

Is eso dead? No, it isn't. You're welcome.

Spottswoode · April 2018

*Logs in for first time in months* *sees dozens of new players on PC*
Nope.

jedtb16_ESO · April 2018

no.

bellatrixed · April 2018

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Its not lack of things to do. Its just all old. Every dungeon is basically the same thing. Trash mobs to boss. Boss has a mechanic but once you know it, its easy mode.

Trials is absolutely mind numbing.

Pvp is just farming for AP.

Battlegrounds is premades vs pugs.

The end game is sad

This is literally every MMO ever created. You are complaining about the mechanics every single MMO has. It's a little like playing a FPS like Call of Duty and complaining all it is is shooting people and completing objectives.

Gargath · April 2018

I just subbed for 3 more months and started the 14-th character

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No, it's definitely alive

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Abysswarrior45 · April 2018

In terms of balance and community it most certainly is dead. Let Zaan be 1 of many pieces of evidence for that.

davey1107 · April 2018

There’s a lot to do in end game.

Like the other day, my Khajiit went and wrote a stupid note and posted it in the bank in rawlkha. Then when anyone would walk by and make a comment, he’d jump in and start arguing for no reason. Why? I’m really not sure. I think it’s because he lacks self esteem and feels that picking on others will offer him some. Silly Khajiit, that just makes you seem sad and desperate.

True story.

Kel · April 2018

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No one's scared to answer, but you can't answer opinion with opinion.
You think end game is bad...no one is going to magically change your mind, and it's not thier job to.
If it's really that bad for you, take out the ESO disc, put another in, and play that. Really no other option, as the format of this game isn't likely going to change much. Someone who's played for 4 years should know that.
We get it. You don't like it anymore. But it's not anyone's job to change your mind. It's not being a "ESO apologist" because I still enjoy the game and you don't. It's also not my job to tell you what else is out there.
Either keep playing something that apparently makes you miserable, or don't, but understand this...no one can argue your personal opinion, and you can't argue thiers. Not my job or anyone else's to change your mind.

Leandor · April 2018

Ohh lovely entertainment in the morning. Thanks OP, had a hearty laugh!

Mannix1958 · April 2018

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Old tired dungeons and boring same old mechanics for trials on top of a very unbalanced pvp setup. Is the game dead?

Yes neat graphics, not many load screens and a hot bar battle system are all great things. I think eso did good but end game they absolutely stink. The best they could come up with is battle grounds and that turned out to premade power houses vs potatos. Its brutal

Also this whole stamina/magicka divide is just aggrovating. What a money grab!?!

Go find a better game.

I am very happy with my experience in ESO

Mureel · April 2018

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Jazzius wrote: »

There's like... a ton of DLC and a new chapter and another new one coming out soon. If you're complaining about lack of things to do 'end game' in ESO then idk if there's an MMO for you my dude.

Its not lack of things to do. Its just all old. Every dungeon is basically the same thing. Trash mobs to boss. Boss has a mechanic but once you know it, its easy mode.

Trials is absolutely mind numbing.

Pvp is just farming for AP.

Battlegrounds is premades vs pugs.

The end game is sad

Link me your Scalecaller and Fang Lair and VAS+2 achievements and we'll talk.

Until then, you're just spewing hot air muh dude.

JD2013 · April 2018

The magic 8 Ball says “No”

Try again next week.

Palidon · April 2018

I would say not yet but the game is moving in that direction.

teladoy · April 2018

Drdeath20 wrote: »

...The best they could come up with is battle grounds and that turned out to premade power houses vs potatos.

This^^^

This game needs battlegrounds WoW style and no this what they did.

They should also remake Cyro.

And introduce neutral and dangerous open world areas.

The_Protagonist · April 2018

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Old tired dungeons and boring same old mechanics for trials on top of a very unbalanced pvp setup. Is the game dead?

Yes neat graphics, not many load screens and a hot bar battle system are all great things. I think eso did good but end game they absolutely stink. The best they could come up with is battle grounds and that turned out to premade power houses vs potatos. Its brutal

Also this whole stamina/magicka divide is just aggrovating. What a money grab!?!

The game is far from dead, maybe you need a break for a while, go out and feel the sunshine, do some jogging and talk to friends, once you are ready, come back to us, we will be waiting for you. Take Care.

Sting864 · April 2018

Drdeath20 wrote: »

SydneyGrey wrote: »

No. The game is actually quite healthy right now.

But every once in a while, on every gaming forum ever created, these threads pop up for no reason at all.

Yeah no, eso has bad end game

Sounds like a player problem... To you is end game only combat related?? How's your outfit looking? Have you taken advantage of all the motifs you earn in endgame dungeons?? How about Housing?? Have you collected all the houses to display your multitude of trophies and busts (I use the Snugpod in Elden Root as a trophy room...)?? You know that you can get a FREE apartment in each of the three starting cities, right?? The biggest advantage there is being able to fast-travel home for FREE from any PVE area in Nir n... Then you're just a number of unguarded steps from a wayshrine... People who think end game is only combat are not using all the content they paid for...

psychotrip · April 2018

Okay, I’ve been trashing this game for weeks, but I’m going to defend it here:

Nothing you listed in the OP has anything to do with whether the game is dead or not. What you’re doing is evaluating perceived problems with the game, not providing evidence for its popularity. From what I’ve seen, the servers are still very populated and the game, in general, is very well received in the general gaming community.

This last part is especially important considering how awful the game was in beta and at launch. It’s very difficult to shift public opinion after a bad first impression but ZOS did it with ESO

While I despise the game’s insistence on transforming Tamriel into such a rote, mundane, generic fantasy world, I will gladly admit I find its story and gameplay to be far more engaging than unmodded skyrim, or anything Bethesda has done in at least a decade.

All signals indicate that ESO is a pretty popular game, and it’s a pretty good one at that.

Sting864 · April 2018

Drdeath20 wrote: »

SydneyGrey wrote: »

No. The game is actually quite healthy right now.

But every once in a while, on every gaming forum ever created, these threads pop up for no reason at all.

Yeah no, eso has bad end game

Yeah no... what are your reasons?? Which dungeons or trials employ the same mechanics?? Which offer the same rewards?? Do you have anything besides your subjective opinion (ALL opinions are subjective...) to back up your "obviously bad endgame..." statement??

Sting864 · April 2018

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Sevn wrote: »

You know you don't have to be here, right pumpkin? Go find something else to play and complain about. You won't be missed I'm sure.

Neither do you. If my post bothered you, you didnt have to respond.

If people are getting their panties in a bunch and hallucinating ESO's death, maybe THEY should find something that makes them happy... This "Chicken Liittling" about ESO's demise can't be healthy, and keeps me from soloing dolmens... wait what??

ZOS_JesC · April 2018

Greetings, we've removed several comments that were off topic or baiting. This is a friendly reminder to keep posts on topic with thread. It is ok to disagree with someone as long as the response is constructive and civil. Resorting to name calling or accusing other members of being "trolls" is non-productive and is against our forum rules. Thank you for your understanding.

Raraaku · April 2018

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I don't think population is down, I think it's only growing. Particularly when considering a new player can probably buy a Summerset bundle that includes Morrowind as well.

ZoS is regularly releasing new DLC content aimed at end-game players. New chapters include even more content. If you don't like the endgame, why play? There is truly a ton of other things one can do outside of dungeons/trials in this game, not even including the social aspect of MMOs in general.

The beautiful part about But-to-Play model is that you can quit whenever you like... and still come back if you want to. So I really don't understand the point of this thread, outside of trolling, since you're offering nothing but bait and incoherent, belligerent, and bellicose thoughts.