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ESO just died?

Volla
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Did ESO just die with these changes in PvP? Will it now be impossible to kill anything? I probably will permanent quit this game due to Zenimax weird patches and fixes that don't balance anything. It was a good and great game but now... I really don't know.

Whats your opinion? No flame please, serious answers only.
  • dpencil1
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    Nope. Good changes. The sky is not falling.
  • Rohamad_Ali
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    It is difficult to comment if you don't explain what you can not kill .
  • DisgracefulMind
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    PvP is going to be fine, in fact, the changes are going to make some extremely strong builds for PvPers (:
    Unfortunate magicka warden main.
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    Retired to baby bgs forever. Leave me alone.
  • Qbiken
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    It is difficult to comment if you don't explain what you can not kill .
    It is difficult to comment if you don't explain what you can not kill .

    Shieldstacking magsorcs???......lel
  • Khenarthi
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    There's more to ESO than PVP.
    And no, the changes have not "killed it".
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  • ItsMeToo
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    It is difficult to comment if you don't explain what you can not kill .

    Deer in Cyrodiil
    FYI - There is no such thing as 'night capping' in a world wide MMO.
    FYI - There was no paid Beta. When they launched the game the Beta was over, even if you don't think it was.
    FYI - It's B2P not F2P. There is a difference.
    FYI - It doesn't take any player skill to mash keys or buttons in this game. The ones that stay alive longer have the better internet connection and speed.
    FYI - The game is not broken, it still works. It just has 'bugs' that need to be fixed.
    Balance is a "Bad" thing.

    Example: There were hundreds of Jedi and only two Sith in Star Wars. The Jedi wanted, "Balance in the Force" and they got it. Now there are only two Jedi and two Sith.

    Balance is a "Bad" thing.
    Is the glass half full or half empty?
    I say, "Get a smaller glass."
  • CavalryPK
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    PvP is going to be fine, in fact, the changes are going to make some extremely strong builds for PvPers (:

    I am intrigued now. please elaborate :)
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    Check out his PVP YouTube channel !

    https://youtube.com/TheCavalryPK
  • Asardes
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    It actually dies and comes back to life every Monday.
    Beta tester since February 2014, played ESO-TU October 2015 - August 2022, currently on an extended break
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  • thedude33
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    Volla wrote: »
    Did ESO just die with these changes in PvP? Will it now be impossible to kill anything? I probably will permanent quit this game due to Zenimax weird patches and fixes that don't balance anything. It was a good and great game but now... I really don't know.

    Whats your opinion? No flame please, serious answers only.

    Serious answers for serious questions.

  • Rohamad_Ali
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    ItsMeToo wrote: »
    It is difficult to comment if you don't explain what you can not kill .

    Deer in Cyrodiil



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  • Samadhi
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    Volla wrote: »
    Did ESO just die with these changes in PvP? ...
    Whats your opinion? No flame please, serious answers only.

    ESO will continue to live until the launch of Elder Scrolls 6,
    then go out with a whisper
    "If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion." -- the 14th Dalai Lama
    Wisdom is doing Now that which benefits you later.
  • Balsagna
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    Volla wrote: »
    Did ESO just die with these changes in PvP? Will it now be impossible to kill anything? I probably will permanent quit this game due to Zenimax weird patches and fixes that don't balance anything. It was a good and great game but now... I really don't know.

    Whats your opinion? No flame please, serious answers only.

    OH NO!!! The sets that did the dps for you and required absolutely zero skill are being toned down?

    Sounds like it should have been done a long time ago.
  • Sigtric
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    lol

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  • ItsMeToo
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    Balsagna wrote: »
    Volla wrote: »
    Did ESO just die with these changes in PvP? Will it now be impossible to kill anything? I probably will permanent quit this game due to Zenimax weird patches and fixes that don't balance anything. It was a good and great game but now... I really don't know.

    Whats your opinion? No flame please, serious answers only.

    OH NO!!! The sets that did the dps for you and required absolutely zero skill are being toned down?

    Sounds like it should have been done a long time ago.

    What is this skill you speak of? Mashing keys on a keyboard/controller?
    FYI - There is no such thing as 'night capping' in a world wide MMO.
    FYI - There was no paid Beta. When they launched the game the Beta was over, even if you don't think it was.
    FYI - It's B2P not F2P. There is a difference.
    FYI - It doesn't take any player skill to mash keys or buttons in this game. The ones that stay alive longer have the better internet connection and speed.
    FYI - The game is not broken, it still works. It just has 'bugs' that need to be fixed.
    Balance is a "Bad" thing.

    Example: There were hundreds of Jedi and only two Sith in Star Wars. The Jedi wanted, "Balance in the Force" and they got it. Now there are only two Jedi and two Sith.

    Balance is a "Bad" thing.
    Is the glass half full or half empty?
    I say, "Get a smaller glass."
  • Narvuntien
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    ???? I am confused this patch is nothing but good things for PVP ????
    They buffed all the resources on gear.

    Well other than the last minute shadow stone nerf, I needed that to punch through impen.

    The soultion to the Penetration nerfs is to actually put points in penetration Cps which weren't even being used.
  • WillhelmBlack
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    Some of us prefer the fight than gank to our egos content. If this patch has finally got rid of hitting someone once and killing them, that's great! We already have the tools for shield stacking, tanks and we'll just have to accept Templar's aren't meant to be killed. I think TTK remains the same except for the Proctards, they'll have to work for a kill now.
    PC EU
  • ItsMeToo
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    Narvuntien wrote: »
    ???? I am confused this patch is nothing but good things for PVP ????
    They buffed all the resources on gear.

    Well other than the last minute shadow stone nerf, I needed that to punch through impen.

    The soultion to the Penetration nerfs is to actually put points in penetration Cps which weren't even being used.

    Yes they are.
    FYI - There is no such thing as 'night capping' in a world wide MMO.
    FYI - There was no paid Beta. When they launched the game the Beta was over, even if you don't think it was.
    FYI - It's B2P not F2P. There is a difference.
    FYI - It doesn't take any player skill to mash keys or buttons in this game. The ones that stay alive longer have the better internet connection and speed.
    FYI - The game is not broken, it still works. It just has 'bugs' that need to be fixed.
    Balance is a "Bad" thing.

    Example: There were hundreds of Jedi and only two Sith in Star Wars. The Jedi wanted, "Balance in the Force" and they got it. Now there are only two Jedi and two Sith.

    Balance is a "Bad" thing.
    Is the glass half full or half empty?
    I say, "Get a smaller glass."
  • Coilbox
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    IMO the changes are quite positive for PVP... But need to test a lot, too soon to say.


    Tho'... how many times did ESO die?
    Comrade, a word...
  • AnnieBeGood
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    Oh no, not AGAIN.
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  • BadLuckCharm
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    ESO just died?

    Oh, isn't this exciting? I've never witnessed a game die before...
    Do you think it'lll die with a bang, or just quietly roll over? So many questions!

    Oh... will it smell bad? I don't want to stay if it'll smell bad.

    It already died? But... but... i'm still downloading! What am i downloading, then? I hope it's not a ghost. That would be very bad.
    Edited by BadLuckCharm on August 14, 2017 5:12PM
  • Takes-No-Prisoner
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    ESO just died?

    Oh, isn't this exciting? I've never witnessed a game die before...
    Do you think it'lll die with a bang, or just quietly roll over? So many questions!

    Oh... will it smell bad? I don't want to stay if it'll smell bad.

    It already died? But... but... i'm still downloading! What am i downloading, then? I hope it's not a ghost. That would be very bad.

    BadLuckCharm
  • Lord_Eomer
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    Some of us prefer the fight than gank to our egos content. If this patch has finally got rid of hitting someone once and killing them, that's great! We already have the tools for shield stacking, tanks and we'll just have to accept Templar's aren't meant to be killed. I think TTK remains the same except for the Proctards, they'll have to work for a kill now.

    With health recovery debuff applied now with Major/Minor defile, its included to kill tanky builds include Templar running troll king and stacking health recovery!
    Edited by Lord_Eomer on August 14, 2017 5:17PM
  • bubbygink
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    Love the changes for HotR. Not sure what they put in Wrobel's water lately but the recent balance changes have been so much more reasonable to me and seem to take into account the community's suggestions (see oblivion damage enchant reduction). Balance between classes, sets, mundus, and traits are at an all time best in my opinion.
  • ascottk
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    ESO has plenty of soul gems... but if they run out then resurrect at the nearest wayshrine.
    The nerf to intelligent internet discussion still hasn't been resolved.

    The problem with above average intelligence is that you're treading a sea of idiots.
  • OC_Justice
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    Samadhi wrote: »
    Volla wrote: »
    Did ESO just die with these changes in PvP? ...
    Whats your opinion? No flame please, serious answers only.

    ESO will continue to live until the launch of Elder Scrolls 6,
    then go out with a whisper

    Not likely.

    MMO players like MMOs due to the challenge of teamwork activity, not "go get me a quart of milk and two dead chickens for my ritual breakfast quest."
    Edited by OC_Justice on August 14, 2017 5:27PM
  • SanTii.92
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    So, did Op, just complained, about proc sets nerfs???? Is that why he/she thinks won't be able to kill anyhting?
    When the snows fall and the white winds blow,
    the lone wolf dies, but the pack survives.

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  • BlazingDynamo
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    Samadhi wrote: »
    Volla wrote: »
    Did ESO just die with these changes in PvP? ...
    Whats your opinion? No flame please, serious answers only.

    ESO will continue to live until the launch of Elder Scrolls 6,
    then go out with a whisper

    Somebody said it.
  • Integral1900
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    Pvp is a very small tail on the back end of a huge dog, it's never going to be balanced because the pve mob make up the bulk of the income by virtue of sheer numbers, first and foremost all balance will tend... as a crude average... to favour them. Pvp was not and never will be the focus, accept this truth or you will never enjoy your time here
  • Humphie
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    Easy solution...learn to play without procs.
  • STEVIL
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    Volla wrote: »
    Did ESO just die with these changes in PvP? Will it now be impossible to kill anything? I probably will permanent quit this game due to Zenimax weird patches and fixes that don't balance anything. It was a good and great game but now... I really don't know.

    Whats your opinion? No flame please, serious answers only.

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    "The good way I used to get good kills *with good skill* was good but the way others kill me now is bad."

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