Homestead PvP Glitch: Invisible Enemies

Nutshotz · February 2017

here is a video from last night of a full EP raid of atleast 16. just walked outside of nikel and poof. if i remember correctly it was around 10pm central time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oaNsEJP-Zo

ZOS_GinaBruno · February 2017

Thanks for the help, everyone! We believe we have a fix pinpointed for this issue, and are testing it now. If everything checks out, we'll get it into next week's incremental patch.

Immovablestone · February 2017

Is it even worth reporting people who are blatantly abusing the bug?

Fruitdog · February 2017

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Thanks for the help, everyone! We believe we have a fix pinpointed for this issue, and are testing it now. If everything checks out, we'll get it into next week's incremental patch.

I guess a hotfix is out of the question?

Minno · February 2017

Fruitdog wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Thanks for the help, everyone! We believe we have a fix pinpointed for this issue, and are testing it now. If everything checks out, we'll get it into next week's incremental patch.

I guess a hotfix is out of the question?

Considering its Wednesday and next week incremental could mean Tuesday, I'd say they made this priority #1.

HoloYoitsu · February 2017

Wollust wrote: »

On a sidenote because maybe you'll read this @ZOS_BrianWheeler streak is being prevented when rooted and trying to streak through towerdoors and other gaps like that. You'll just stand there doing nothing.

I've spent a while documenting the bug with bolt escape, it's most easily reproducible at milegates. Picture a milegate, there are three main towers; the bug happens . What happens is whenever you attempt to cast a bolt escape at a range that would move you through either of the two doorways on either of the two outer towers (on 1st or 2nd floor, it bugs on the 3rd floor as well but not all the time), bolt escape will bug out.

When blink bugs out what happens is you do the blink animation & lose the magic but do not move forward, instead you become rooted to the spot for about 5 sec. You cannot dodge roll while bugged like this, you cannot blink out, you cannot gap close out, ect. Your toon is stuck stationary, but you can still use skills. It is the exact same effect as when you get stuck in slow falling on a slope.

If any of you recall the Energy Orb bug that causes the balls to disappear when they move through those milegates doorways, it is the exact same thing now for bolt escape. Any place where energy orb would bug now also bugs bolt escape! This also happens in some IC buildings.

Go talk to your sorc friends and ask them about getting stuck in milegates!

I'll be making a thread once I have video ready.

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_BrianWheeler

Patouf · February 2017

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

That is correct, and any cases beyond that one help our programmers and testers to determine the cause of the bug

Did not they leave ZoS since 1.5 ?

Talcyndl · February 2017

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Thanks for the help, everyone! We believe we have a fix pinpointed for this issue, and are testing it now. If everything checks out, we'll get it into next week's incremental patch.

Thanks. It would be nice if this tests out to push it as a hotfix before the weekend. Spending prime playing time over the weekend (especially with a lot of the Northeast US looking to be snowed in) with invisible enemies all over Cyrodiil is going to *** a lot of people off.

Talcyndl · February 2017

Immovablestone wrote: »

Is it even worth reporting people who are blatantly abusing the bug?

Leave the area and come back. They will likely be visible again. It's not something that people can turn on at will.

Talcyndl · February 2017

G0ku wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

G0ku wrote: »

AD EU Trueflame: happens everywhere atm. Too bad you can´t name and shame. Those invisible people know exactly that they are invisible, you can´t whisper any of them. Time to make a statement and dish out some serious bans. Use the chance to clean pvp off morons.

G0ku wrote: »

AD EU Trueflame: happens everywhere atm. Too bad you can´t name and shame. Those invisible people know exactly that they are invisible, you can´t whisper any of them. Time to make a statement and dish out some serious bans. Use the chance to clean pvp off morons.

What an idiotic statement. This has nothing to do with cheating. It happens to everyone. You can be invisible to one person and visible to his friend, there is zero way of knowing if the enemy sees you or not until you start fighting them. Sometimes the invisible player turns visible after a few sec of fighting.

Doesn´t change the fact that some ppl seem to have found out how to trigger this. There are grouüps of 3, no one can be whispered (guess they set themselves offline). Others one´s can be whispered and are surprised they´re invisible. Just reported those you can´t whisper. Your words are also recognised without an insult as introduction, just saying.

So the people who are set to offline are intentionally triggering it? WHAT? Baseless accusations are exactly why ZOS has the naming and shaming rule.

concegual · February 2017

Next weeks patch!!!! really? so PvP is Broken and we are told to wait till next week.....

Ragnaroek93 · February 2017

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

I know this is the question everyone loves to hate, but are you all running any addons? If so, could you try disabling them and see if you're still seeing this issue (or in this case, not seeing...)

No, I do not use any addons at all and I have still been attacked by invisible people (was close to Alessia... one time between Alessia and Alessia lumber and one time a bit in the south of the Alessia bridge).

ataggs · February 2017

Fruitdog wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Thanks for the help, everyone! We believe we have a fix pinpointed for this issue, and are testing it now. If everything checks out, we'll get it into next week's incremental patch.

I guess a hotfix is out of the question?

Sweet, innocent Fruity.... no! Just pretend you are getting ganked by nightblades trying to reunite with your guild and mist form across the map until Tuesday.

Delimber · February 2017

ataggs wrote: »

Fruitdog wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Thanks for the help, everyone! We believe we have a fix pinpointed for this issue, and are testing it now. If everything checks out, we'll get it into next week's incremental patch.

I guess a hotfix is out of the question?

Sweet, innocent Fruity.... no! Just pretend you are getting ganked by nightblades trying to reunite with your guild and mist form across the map until Tuesday.

What about the Templar that I could see going into mist form but when they came out of it they were invisible lol

Was earlier this evening at Drake farm

Etaniel · February 2017

G0ku wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

G0ku wrote: »

AD EU Trueflame: happens everywhere atm. Too bad you can´t name and shame. Those invisible people know exactly that they are invisible, you can´t whisper any of them. Time to make a statement and dish out some serious bans. Use the chance to clean pvp off morons.

G0ku wrote: »

AD EU Trueflame: happens everywhere atm. Too bad you can´t name and shame. Those invisible people know exactly that they are invisible, you can´t whisper any of them. Time to make a statement and dish out some serious bans. Use the chance to clean pvp off morons.

What an idiotic statement. This has nothing to do with cheating. It happens to everyone. You can be invisible to one person and visible to his friend, there is zero way of knowing if the enemy sees you or not until you start fighting them. Sometimes the invisible player turns visible after a few sec of fighting.

Doesn´t change the fact that some ppl seem to have found out how to trigger this. There are grouüps of 3, no one can be whispered (guess they set themselves offline). Others one´s can be whispered and are surprised they´re invisible. Just reported those you can´t whisper. Your words are also recognised without an insult as introduction, just saying.

My apologies, your comment seemed like it was generalizing everyone in Cyrodiil. I shouldn't have reacted like that.
Maybe some have figured out how to trigger it, I don't think it's the majority.

Zaldan · February 2017

Fruitdog wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Thanks for the help, everyone! We believe we have a fix pinpointed for this issue, and are testing it now. If everything checks out, we'll get it into next week's incremental patch.

I guess a hotfix is out of the question?

it's not affecting clown store so no chance

technohic · February 2017

The way it appears to be behaving to me seems like it is some sort of rendering issue. I'm just guessing but I would think you can't hot fix it because it might require a change on both server and client.

I'm sure thats why those money making items get hot fixed and everyone wants to say its because it affects their revenue stream. Well; I am sure they do want to address that, being a business and all; but it probably also a lot of times has to do with it being controlled completely server side.

Immovablestone · February 2017

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Thanks for the help, everyone! We believe we have a fix pinpointed for this issue, and are testing it now. If everything checks out, we'll get it into next week's incremental patch.

Next weeks patch... are you kidding me? You're going to let PVP be totally f'd up for the rest of the week? This is insane...

efster · February 2017

Seriously? Next patch? fail.

Sugaroverdose · February 2017

Immovablestone wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Thanks for the help, everyone! We believe we have a fix pinpointed for this issue, and are testing it now. If everything checks out, we'll get it into next week's incremental patch.

Next weeks patch... are you kidding me? You're going to let PVP be totally f'd up for the rest of the week? This is insane...

If you read text carefully they don't actually sure what they test now

Minno · February 2017

Immovablestone wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Thanks for the help, everyone! We believe we have a fix pinpointed for this issue, and are testing it now. If everything checks out, we'll get it into next week's incremental patch.

Next weeks patch... are you kidding me? You're going to let PVP be totally f'd up for the rest of the week? This is insane...

Is it totally messed up? You can play and players that you can see still kill you, right?

I think we can wait till Tuesday to find out if they fixed it.

Master_Kas · February 2017

Minno wrote: »

Immovablestone wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Thanks for the help, everyone! We believe we have a fix pinpointed for this issue, and are testing it now. If everything checks out, we'll get it into next week's incremental patch.

Next weeks patch... are you kidding me? You're going to let PVP be totally f'd up for the rest of the week? This is insane...

Is it totally messed up? You can play and players that you can see still kill you, right?

I think we can wait till Tuesday to find out if they fixed it.

Funny they hotfixed the GO scrolls after just a few hours after patch hit live. But this gamebreaking bug , including other bugs like not being able to remove ultra-settings and blackkbot mine can go unfixed until next week.

Minno · February 2017

Master_Kas wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Immovablestone wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Thanks for the help, everyone! We believe we have a fix pinpointed for this issue, and are testing it now. If everything checks out, we'll get it into next week's incremental patch.

Next weeks patch... are you kidding me? You're going to let PVP be totally f'd up for the rest of the week? This is insane...

Is it totally messed up? You can play and players that you can see still kill you, right?

I think we can wait till Tuesday to find out if they fixed it.

Funny they hotfixed the GO scrolls after just a few hours after patch hit live. But this gamebreaking bug , including other bugs like not being able to remove ultra-settings and blackkbot mine can go unfixed until next week.

Or those hotfixes were already known and they had them in the project schedule for a month in advance

ZOS_GinaBruno · February 2017

Fruitdog wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Thanks for the help, everyone! We believe we have a fix pinpointed for this issue, and are testing it now. If everything checks out, we'll get it into next week's incremental patch.

I guess a hotfix is out of the question?

Unfortunately it is, due to how this needs to be fixed. We aren't able to hotfix everything, so it's not about playing favorites or having different priorities. It literally cannot be hotfixed.

Minno · February 2017

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Fruitdog wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Thanks for the help, everyone! We believe we have a fix pinpointed for this issue, and are testing it now. If everything checks out, we'll get it into next week's incremental patch.

I guess a hotfix is out of the question?

Unfortunately it is, due to how this needs to be fixed. We aren't able to hotfix everything, so it's not about playing favorites or having different priorities. It literally cannot be hotfixed.

Thank you Gina. When that patch comes available, we will see a "developer's" response on the patch notes similar to how we saw for each ability change this patch?

I thought that was a nice touch seeing your intent for each change or what was the exact problem followed by its solution. Really helps us to dive into the thought process of the team

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wenchmore420b14_ESO · February 2017

PeaNutShotz wrote: »

here is a video from last night of a full EP raid of atleast 16. just walked outside of nikel and poof. if i remember correctly it was around 10pm central time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oaNsEJP-Zo

To the OP, I was a there in your video as that was my PvP guild on the porch.
FYI- NONE of us knew we were "Invisible" as we were able to see you.

Immovablestone wrote: »

Is it even worth reporting people who are blatantly abusing the bug?

Not only did we not know we were invisible, but we definitely are not doing it "On purpose". This is a bug to all of us, not a exploit. Will go back and see if I was recording at that same time as I recorded that night also...

EDIT: Stopped recording at 9:33...Damn... Would have been cool to compare them..

lonewolf26 · February 2017

@ZOS_GinaBruno Do you know if this bug is similar to a bug we've witnessed in trials since Shadows of the Hist where a player would come in mid raid and be invisible to everyone unless they went out of render distance and came back? We would be overjoyed if this fix would squash this long standing issue as well.

Taylor_MB · February 2017

Just had a npc boss render in and out in Craglorn even though was standing right next to it, took forever to kill, AoE's would not bring it back and it would not attack me while phased out.

Thought I'd try PvE seeming PvP is neglected, guess not.

Domander · February 2017

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Fruitdog wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Thanks for the help, everyone! We believe we have a fix pinpointed for this issue, and are testing it now. If everything checks out, we'll get it into next week's incremental patch.

I guess a hotfix is out of the question?

Unfortunately it is, due to how this needs to be fixed. We aren't able to hotfix everything, so it's not about playing favorites or having different priorities. It literally cannot be hotfixed.

Can we get an early maintenance?

Elong · February 2017

Do an early maintenance ffs.