Homestead PvP Glitch: Invisible Enemies

Talcyndl

ishilb14_ESO wrote: »

Talcyndl wrote: »

ishilb14_ESO wrote: »

Is this a priority issue? Because it's gamebreaking when your 8 man group gets bombed by a bunch of invisible people with invisible destro ults

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_KaiSchober

So you couldn't see the ulti effects? From what I've seen, most (all?) skill effects are still visible even though the character itself is not.

I should be specific, I could see that the ground was red but I didn't see any of the other associated visuals.

Ok. Not sure if that will help ZOS diagnose the problem, but the more info the better.

Ankael07

I said this in some other post before knowing this is the main discussion thread so I'll just copy+paste

I urge everyone to at least pm those invisible people in pvp before reporting so that we dont overwhelm the mods. First, tell them to stop exploiting or they will be reported and if they answer back in a cocky way ( not my fault the bug exists etc.) it means theyre purposely exploiting it. Then just take a screenshot and send the report with the player name, location and the time it happened.

Talcyndl

Ankael07 wrote: »

I said this in some other post before knowing this is the main discussion thread so I'll just copy+paste

I urge everyone to at least pm those invisible people in pvp before reporting so that we dont overwhelm the mods. First, tell them to stop exploiting or they will be reported and if they answer back in a cocky way ( not my fault the bug exists etc.) it means theyre purposely exploiting it. Then just take a screenshot and send the report with the player name, location and the time it happened.

This is sort of good advice. But, people aren't creating this condition on purpose (my definition of exploiting). It occurs randomly as far as any of us know - certainly ZOS doesn't seem to know the cause.

So, yes, players who are aware they are effected should port and/or leave the area to try and fix themselves. But reporting anyone is pointless. ZOS will take no action against people and it just wastes the time of mods.

Elong

Ankael07 wrote: »

I said this in some other post before knowing this is the main discussion thread so I'll just copy+paste

I urge everyone to at least pm those invisible people in pvp before reporting so that we dont overwhelm the mods. First, tell them to stop exploiting or they will be reported and if they answer back in a cocky way ( not my fault the bug exists etc.) it means theyre purposely exploiting it. Then just take a screenshot and send the report with the player name, location and the time it happened.

You don't want to overload the mods, but then you're going to report people who are bugged and can't fix it?

GTFO.

Talcyndl

Elong wrote: »

You don't want to overload the mods, but then you're going to report people who are bugged and can't fix it?

But only if they are salty in response to a whisper.

Elong

Talcyndl wrote: »

Elong wrote: »

You don't want to overload the mods, but then you're going to report people who are bugged and can't fix it?

But only if they are salty in response to a whisper.

Haha exactly. Not exactly helpful at all!

NightbladeMechanics

I had better see some Invisible PvP montages coming out soon.

Quantum_V

I kid you not... I think I'm gonna quit this game till this is fixed... unplayable...

kadar

@ZOS_BrianWheeler
Server: NA
Campaign: Haderus
Location: Bruma capture flag
Time: 11PM EST
Opponent player: Konedi (NB), Cent Satori (DK), Sabre North (Templar)

Killed by Invisible Sabre North and Cent Satori: a group member could see Sabre and not Cent while I could not see either. Rode back to immediately, fought Cent Satori and Konedi: I could see both, 1 group member could see 1, the other could see neither...

This seems to be a phasing issue similar to group members being invis but still seeing chevrons. On that note, a group member was in invisible in Cyrodiil earlier, but unlike the previous bug, his chevron was not "in the ground" but was at a normal height as if his character was visible underneath it.

ishilb14_ESO

So I just tried to intercept an AD scroll. Not only was the scroll carrier invisible, the 40 man zerg with him was also invisible. All I saw, as I was being mauled by invisible forces, was the column of light from the scroll, but not the scroll, the carrier, or the 40 man escort.

NBrookus

In Azura's Star. Was attacked by a group of 12 invisibles today... number gleaned from my combat log post mortem. Had a teammate get hit by a group 20+ of which he could only see 4 but I could see all(?) of them.

Talcyndl

NBrookus wrote: »

In Azura's Star. Was attacked by a group of 12 invisibles today... number gleaned from my combat log post mortem. Had a teammate get hit by a group 20+ of which he could only see 4 but I could see all(?) of them.

Yeah, this is why its crazy to report people. You not only can't tell you're invisible, you may be visible to one enemy but invisible to another.

xaraan

Yeah, we tried to play today and probably a quarter of the enemies when we ran into groups were invisible. Seems worse when we are grouped than solo (4 man group vs. single).

Iyas

Im quitting until that bs is fixed. Pvped for 1 hour yesterday and there were so many invisible Players. Whole 24 man slots.

And cant use any skills when getting rooted while in a doorway
Mist Form is not purging all rootspam
Lag is back to 1.6 Style so you cant do anything at all

kyle.wilson

I'm curious as to why non of the mods comments here are on the dev tracker.

PVP is unplayable when you repeatedly run into invisible enemies. I haven't seen anything in common with the chars I've encountered invisible, and I can't be sure if they know they are.
The part that makes this frustrating is that this "bug" was discovered during the pts.
WTF is the purpose of the pts if you cant fix problems found during.

Scrub_Potato

NBrookus wrote: »

In Azura's Star. Was attacked by a group of 12 invisibles today... number gleaned from my combat log post mortem. Had a teammate get hit by a group 20+ of which he could only see 4 but I could see all(?) of them.

I think I may have been there for that one, or at least ran into that group.

In other news:

Azura's Star NA, The hill to the North East of Bleakers, by the stairs. Ran into an invisible group of 8 DC and 1 visible DC who killed my group mate and I. Got rezzed, they came back, and there were a few more who I could see, but my Group mate confirmed for me that the 8 I couldn't see were there, and I couldn't see them again. Rezzed one more time, and this time Neither my Group mate or I could see them, though we saw one who joined in late. It was honestly kind of funny, because we look like headless chickens, walking in circles spraying AoEs until we hit something, and then using AoE Synergies to try and kill them. Felt like Arnold Schwarzenegger trying to fight some Predators. The fourth time we went back, we ran into two DC, one was invisible for us both, the other was seen. Out of nowhere, friendly EP apparently appeared (We had no idea, because we couldn't see them. After whispering one of the DC, it would appear they also could not see the EP) because our synergies just started firing off. So this bug even effects your own faction lol, not sure if that was stated yet. It was annoying first, but it hast started to become rather funny, in a way.

EDIT: Has anyone else noticed that single target abilities seem to not be able to hit an invisible person? I was dueling my friend the other day, and when I showed up, I was invisible. He was trying to heavy attack to find me, and his attacks just passed right through me. Wasn't until he AoE'd that I was hit by something. Has this happened to anyone else, that they are aware of?

Etaniel

G0ku wrote: »

AD EU Trueflame: happens everywhere atm. Too bad you can´t name and shame. Those invisible people know exactly that they are invisible, you can´t whisper any of them. Time to make a statement and dish out some serious bans. Use the chance to clean pvp off morons.

G0ku wrote: »

AD EU Trueflame: happens everywhere atm. Too bad you can´t name and shame. Those invisible people know exactly that they are invisible, you can´t whisper any of them. Time to make a statement and dish out some serious bans. Use the chance to clean pvp off morons.

What an idiotic statement. This has nothing to do with cheating. It happens to everyone. You can be invisible to one person and visible to his friend, there is zero way of knowing if the enemy sees you or not until you start fighting them. Sometimes the invisible player turns visible after a few sec of fighting.

IcyDeadPeople

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

Anyone that gets this please report the location this occurred like Quantum did along with the situation.

Server: NA
Campaign: Trueflame
Location: Bruma capture flag
Time: 8PM EST

I attacked and killed an enemy player at the main Bruma flag, and he whispered me indicating I was invisible the entire time. From my perspective, I couldn't even tell that I was invisible. He could see my Engine Guardian robot, though.

Happened to be recording at the time:

In case it's helpful for determining what causes this, I included a few minutes before the battle.

Just before attacking him, I used Blade of Woe on several NPCs in Bruma. Then, when I tried to use Blade of Woe on another NPC, I accidentally hit the "feed" button. This resulted in my vampirism dropping down to Stage 3, so I spammed Elusive Mist for about 30 seconds to return to stage 4, and attacked him shortly after this from stealth. No idea if any of this is related to the bug or not.

Lore_lai

What a joke!
Tried a bit of PvP tonight and I had more invisible ultis drop on me than I could have even imagined.

It's ridiculous that this made it to live. Even one report from PTS and this should have been properly investigated because of the game-breaking potential it has.

Cinbri

I can't report where it happened coz it was happened everywhere in Cyro, except Imperial City. I only know that upon respawn in castle shrines can randomly cause you to appear or dissapear.

AllPlayAndNoWork

Yesterday in BwB I walked past 3 EP. I danced and waved but they never saw me.

On a plus note... bagged a few sky shards with no encounters.... Silver lining and all that.

Temak von Tern

Could it be that change has something to do with Miats PVP Alerts?
It doesnt show the number of players anymore, i think ZOS has *** up something with that change, that there is no priority in the system anymore if the player is an ally oder enemy.

Kinga

I hope this bug will be fixed soon.. yesterday I was attacked and killed by an invisible player.. on EU Server

Talcyndl

Thank the lord they hotfixed the game to allow people to purchase some random villa or somesuch. Perhaps a statement letting us know the status of the bug that is ruining PvP? Please.

@ZOS_BrianWheeler

NBrookus

Scrub_Potato wrote: »

NBrookus wrote: »

In Azura's Star. Was attacked by a group of 12 invisibles today... number gleaned from my combat log post mortem. Had a teammate get hit by a group 20+ of which he could only see 4 but I could see all(?) of them.

I think I may have been there for that one, or at least ran into that group.

You weren't nearby for either episode, so...

zuto40

its been here for a long time just a lot more common now i guess

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcCcuXI6Gck

G0ku

Etaniel wrote: »

G0ku wrote: »

AD EU Trueflame: happens everywhere atm. Too bad you can´t name and shame. Those invisible people know exactly that they are invisible, you can´t whisper any of them. Time to make a statement and dish out some serious bans. Use the chance to clean pvp off morons.

G0ku wrote: »

AD EU Trueflame: happens everywhere atm. Too bad you can´t name and shame. Those invisible people know exactly that they are invisible, you can´t whisper any of them. Time to make a statement and dish out some serious bans. Use the chance to clean pvp off morons.

What an idiotic statement. This has nothing to do with cheating. It happens to everyone. You can be invisible to one person and visible to his friend, there is zero way of knowing if the enemy sees you or not until you start fighting them. Sometimes the invisible player turns visible after a few sec of fighting.

Doesn´t change the fact that some ppl seem to have found out how to trigger this. There are grouüps of 3, no one can be whispered (guess they set themselves offline). Others one´s can be whispered and are surprised they´re invisible. Just reported those you can´t whisper. Your words are also recognised without an insult as introduction, just saying.

Arthg

This issue beggars belief.

Two days after a 5-million-dollar Super-Bowl ad, the most crippling bug you can think of makes it to the live server even though it'd been reported in the feedback threads.

Meanwhile, the devs are enjoying muffins and lattes with the "top-streamers".

This issue beggars belief.

Minno

Cinbri wrote: »

I can't report where it happened coz it was happened everywhere in Cyro, except Imperial City. I only know that upon respawn in castle shrines can randomly cause you to appear or dissapear.

The reason @ZOS_BrianWheeler says to "report location" is that he wants us to /bug the minute someone says you are invisible in a whisper or find an invisible player. It's my understanding zos has access to a wealth of information via this reporting meathod and a zos mod once told me it's pretty scary how much info they get.

So just use the help window, and report the issue as a bug or impairs functionality. Till then we have to be patient.

zuto40

Cinbri wrote: »

I can't report where it happened coz it was happened everywhere in Cyro, except Imperial City. I only know that upon respawn in castle shrines can randomly cause you to appear or dissapear.

zuto40 wrote: »

its been here for a long time just a lot more common now i guess

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcCcuXI6Gck