HeroOfNone wrote: »

So nothing with certain the flying dagger ranks that ate getting 20k+ damage?

Nothing with the templar biting jabs damage that is doing 15k plus through heavy armor?

And nothing on sorcerers damage shields (hardened ward I think) that was giving it's full damage shield buff?

Just checking if these are intended and not exploits at this point...

They said they corrected it @HeroOfNone

"Weapon
Restoration Staff
Healing Ward: Fixed an issue where this ability’s damage shield was not properly reduced by Battle Spirit."

It was healing ward NOT hardened ward causing the issues

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Clarebear wrote: »

What about Racial changes?

There are some racial passive changes in this patch. We're tracking down the exact changes now, and will update everyone as soon as we have them squared away. We'll also add them to today's patch notes. Apologies, everyone.

Okay, keeping my clawed-toes crossed in hopes that we WON'T be getting new Argonian passives like these:

CRAFTY: "After using a crafting station, Argonians get a 10% swim boost increase for 3 seconds"

or...

SCALY: "Slaughterfish prefer the taste of Argonians, slowing their attack speed and damage by 10% when feasting on the delicious lizard hides"

Seriously ZOS! Please no more silly, weak, unimaginative passives. Make us lizards proud to play this game! Thanks!

Some good progress on fixes. Hope to see a lot more in a week or so.
@ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_GinaBruno Thanks for:
/lurk
/listening

and this > Fixed an issue where the third-person camera would attempt to enter first-person view too aggressively in confined spaces.

CP5 wrote: »

kaithuzar wrote: »

People need to stop complaining, these are good changes.
You CAN regen stam while blocking IF you're the right race which has stam regen; #do_you_even_read_bro

Thanks for the siphoning changes ZOS; much appreciated. @ZOS_GinaBruno

You... realize that they fixed an issue that ALLOWED that, right? Meaning they removed the ability for stamina passives to regen stamina while blocking.

"Fixed an issue that allowed those with racial passives which increased Stamina Recovery to still recover Stamina while blocking."

Yup, misread on my part; corrected #thanks

Lots of nice fixes. Lets hope the fixes actually work :-)

Dracane wrote: »

OGLezard wrote: »

Xael wrote: »

CP5 wrote: »

Xael wrote: »

Huggalump wrote: »

wait, the live stream said there was a LOT more stuff coming for Stam Sorcs. Did they decide against it or is it still coming in a couple weeks?

LOL I am hoping it was just left out of the notes like the first set of patch notes left out nirnhoned and other things on accident. Otherwise that sitdown with wrobel was a joke just like the first one where he specifically said Detect pots were not going to work against Dark Cloak.

But yeah, I am interested to see what the "surprise" thing he mentioned is. It's probably nothing at all "surprise! you got your hopes up!" From the looks of it, even with the new change to Thundering Presence, we will still take Boundless Storm. I will need to see what 300% increased damage looks like, but I am willing to bet it's not worth it.

The speed buff lasts 4 seconds and the damage increase is only for the first 4 meaning you are smashing this every 4 seconds. This is going to drain Stam. No thanks. I would much rather spend 3-4k Magicka and have a speed buff that lasts 7.5 seconds. Unless this 300% damage is crazy good, unlikely though.

Really hoping that the surprise wasn't the 300% 4s long buff...

LOL no please no!

kkampaseb17_ESO wrote: »

Xael wrote: »

Huggalump wrote: »

wait, the live stream said there was a LOT more stuff coming for Stam Sorcs. Did they decide against it or is it still coming in a couple weeks?

LOL I am hoping it was just left out of the notes like the first set of patch notes left out nirnhoned and other things on accident. Otherwise that sitdown with wrobel was a joke just like the first one where he specifically said Detect pots were not going to work against Dark Cloak.

But yeah, I am interested to see what the "surprise" thing he mentioned is. It's probably nothing at all "surprise! you got your hopes up!" From the looks of it, even with the new change to Thundering Presence, we will still take Boundless Storm. I will need to see what 300% increased damage looks like, but I am willing to bet it's not worth it.

The speed buff lasts 4 seconds and the damage increase is only for the first 4 meaning you are smashing this every 4 seconds. This is going to drain Stam. No thanks. I would much rather spend 3-4k Magicka and have a speed buff that lasts 7.5 seconds. Unless this 300% damage is crazy good, unlikely though.

This is gonna be such a huge stamina hog. I don't see how this is gonna be any useful. It is not just the stamina cost...but it is also the loss of precious GCDs recasting Lightning Form....what the....Unless it is 2-3k DPS per target I don't see how this can be any useful.

I agree. Completely.
This seems like a PvE buff that does not overlap into PvP. Again, we will know more when we see actual numbers. I will likely test it on Sunshine who has a decent amount of resist. Hopes dashed

What are you complaining about lol the STAMINA (key word is stamina) morph of the skill will do 300% more than the magicka version....... I dont know about you guys but in what world can you use stamina to turn yourself into a lightning form...... let alone a lightning form that does more damage than the magicka form....... makes no sense lol none. Stamina is just silly when you think about it being able to cast MAGICKA skills..... the game has gone completely crazy, stamina casting heals, stamina casting magick skills...... just lol

I agree, it's crazy and that because people want (for some reason that I fail to understand) Sorcerer to be a warrior or so and probably they want them to be superior to other stamina classes, because if it's not equal or superior to other classes, then it's considered not viable and they will call for more changes to sully Magicka Sorcerers.

Sorcerer is a capable Magicka class, that's his strenght. But people want Stamina Sorcs to be just as good as Magicka Sorcs, which is too much to ask for in my opinion. if you want to be a freaking warrior, Dragonknight and Templar is for you. Sorcerer is a mage and if a Mage is a better warrior than a Dragonknight, then something is wrong here.

Do Magicka Sorcerers have a good spamable class damage ability ? No, we don't and we will never get it sadly. But stamina Sorcs shall get their spammable class ability ? No way. I am forced to use force pulse, you're forced to use wrecking blow, which is totally overpowered anyway.

I get your point. It's goofy to use stamina to cast things that are clearly magical. However, removing soft caps forced this on the game. If they want a balanced game where people can play the way they intend, they must provide both magic and stamina based viability for every class. Templars and Nightblades have it. DK sorta does (I think? I don't know). Sorcs do not.

I mean, Templars can summon heavenly javelins with stamina, so that argument has already been finished a long time ago.

But the issue is waaaaaaay bigger than "Do magicka sorcerers have a good spammable damage ability." Look through the trees, both actives and passives. How many things can a magic sorc get value out of that a stamina sorc can't?

Dark Magic: crystal frag (both morphs), Daedric mines (both), exploitation
Daedric Summoning: familiar (both), Daedric curse (both), Rebate, wing twilight (both), expert summoner, conjured ward (both)
Storm calling: Mages Fury (both), Lightening form (both on live), capacitor (ok for stam, AMAZING for magic), energized, lightening splash (both), expert mage, bolt escape (stam can use... once :P)

I agree, it's goofy for stamina to make magic. But soft caps are gone, and so this is the route they have to go. As you can see, there's a LOT that can be done. The problem isn't simply "a spammable class ability"

"Sigils of Imperial Retreat now cost 10,000 AP instead of costing Tel Var Stones..."

So the players who need Sigils the MOST, PvE grinders, won't be able to buy them, but PvP gankers will be able to buy DOZENS or even HUNDREDS of them with their stashes of AP.

/facepalm

kkampaseb17_ESO wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Sorcerer

• Storm Calling
  • Boundless Storm (Lightning Form morph): Increased the duration of this ability to 23 seconds from 15 seconds at Rank IV. It retains the Major Expedition buff at the current maximum value of 7.5 seconds.
  • Thunderous Presence (Lightning Form morph):
    • Decreased the duration of this ability to 15 seconds from 23 seconds at Rank IV.
    • Grants the Major Expedition buff for a maximum of 4 seconds at Rank IV.
    • It now deals 300% more damage during the first 4 seconds after activation.

@ZOS_GinaBruno
Where are the passive bonuses for stamina sorcerers (Expert Mage and stamina recovery)? Are they not included in this patch?

@ZOS_GinaBruno & @ZOS_BrianWheeler
I agree with the confusion behind that quote. ESO live had us thinking we would see some nice changes to stamina based sorcs. While the one change you made to thunderous presence was a nice one, the passives you had mentioned are not in yet. Is this something we will or will not see by the time the game goes live? I am dying to know... literally and seriously dying. LOL Thank you for all that you are doing there at home base!

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

[*] High Elf

• Spellcharge: Reverted the magicka recovery bonus from this passive that was introduced in patch 2.1.0. The buff is now back to 3/6/9 from 4/8/12.

Thanks for the qq Bretons and Dark Elves. Well done
They should add race signs next to player names, so I can go out and torture Breton and Dunmer player for this.

C'mon ZoS

Nightblade

Siphoning
Increased the duration of Siphoning Strikes and Siphoning Attacks to 15 seconds from 10 seconds.
Leeching Strikes (Siphoning Strikes morph): This ability is now a toggle once more, and reduces weapon and spell power while active.

This is how I know you don't play the game enough yourselves or pay enough attention to feedback.

So, someone attacking will constantly use light attack weaving and benefit from Leeching strikes, but the toggle is given to that version instead of the OTHER version that tanks actually run because having the chance to get stamina/magicka back from any type of attack (like using sap) is what makes the ability useful.

If you want constructive criticism - then listen to it when it's given please and don't do the opposite. No NB tank worth his salt was using Leeching strikes and anyone could have answered that question.

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Red Rook Camp: Pigs will no longer respawn instantly when killed.

WELL ITS ABOUT TIME!!!

Dracane wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

[*] High Elf

• Spellcharge: Reverted the magicka recovery bonus from this passive that was introduced in patch 2.1.0. The buff is now back to 3/6/9 from 4/8/12.

Thanks for the qq Bretons and Dark Elves. Well done
They should add race signs next to player names, so I can go out and torture Breton and Dunmer player for this.

Breton here. I like the change to the High-elves.

If High-elfs should get a buff it should be their elemental damage and not their regen that should be buffed.
Bretons spell-resist should be made to match it if that happens. Bretons has allways been the defensive counterpart
to the offensive high-elf. So more sustain insterd of more damage didnt make sence to me IF a buff is needed.

NTclaymore wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

[*] High Elf

• Spellcharge: Reverted the magicka recovery bonus from this passive that was introduced in patch 2.1.0. The buff is now back to 3/6/9 from 4/8/12.

Thanks for the qq Bretons and Dark Elves. Well done
They should add race signs next to player names, so I can go out and torture Breton and Dunmer player for this.

Breton here. I like the change to the High-elves.

If High-elfs should get a buff it should be their elemental damage and not their regen that should be buffed.
Bretons spell-resist should be made to match it if that happens. Bretons has allways been the defensive counterpart
to the offensive high-elf. So more sustain insterd of more damage didnt make sence to me IF a buff is needed.

Now this I can agree with!