Ravenwatch PC EU

WaywardArgonian

Tigor wrote: »

In short: Challenge accepted. You are in! All you need to do is keep in touch in game and play EP.

Sure, I will add you when I log on later. I may need a few days to set up my character. What days do you play?

Victor_Storm

Guys, are you okay? I'm just asking which guild is the best and you start pvp XD

Tigor

Victor_Storm wrote: »

Guys, are you okay? I'm just asking which guild is the best and you start pvp XD

I am ok. What do you expect from a guild?

InvitationNotFound

Victor_Storm wrote: »

Guys, are you okay? I'm just asking which guild is the best and you start pvp XD

So... you don't like pvp? (or that kind of pvp^^)

Tigor

And again these imbalances, and everywhere cheating DC. Lock this campaign pls. No population will stay here.

blktauna

The lag in PC Ravenwatch has been all over the place. Friday was mostly tolerable but those two ball groups dragged whatever area they were running around in right down to frames

Sidewaves89

Why is DC cheating? I mean i see that whole map is blue, but what it have to do with cheating?

Tigor

Sidewaves89 wrote: »

Why is DC cheating? I mean i see that whole map is blue, but what it have to do with cheating?

The map is blue while the rest does not want to play against DC anymore. The campaign is dead at prime time for at least one week. Clearly an indication that the motivation is gone.

Zabagad

Sidewaves89 wrote: »

Why is DC cheating? I mean i see that whole map is blue, but what it have to do with cheating?

Just scroll back to the last page and look at Tigors definition of cheating

WaywardArgonian

blktauna wrote: »

The lag in PC Ravenwatch has been all over the place. Friday was mostly tolerable but those two ball groups dragged whatever area they were running around in right down to frames

I haven't really experienced this at all. The gameplay can be a bit less fluid when there's large portions of the server congregating in one place, but nothing like the insane skill delays from before the server upgrade. Are we sure it isn't a hardware issue at this point?

I'm not saying that to be mean btw, but I've noticed lately that I sometimes play in groups where someone says 'oh this is unplayable, all my frames are gone' when I am next to them just casting my skills as usual.

Tigor

WaywardArgonian wrote: »

blktauna wrote: »

The lag in PC Ravenwatch has been all over the place. Friday was mostly tolerable but those two ball groups dragged whatever area they were running around in right down to frames

I haven't really experienced this at all. The gameplay can be a bit less fluid when there's large portions of the server congregating in one place, but nothing like the insane skill delays from before the server upgrade. Are we sure it isn't a hardware issue at this point?

I'm not saying that to be mean btw, but I've noticed lately that I sometimes play in groups where someone says 'oh this is unplayable, all my frames are gone' when I am next to them just casting my skills as usual.

Have experienced less lag or desyncs after server update. My computer is sometimes struggling when fighting at hot spots. But on the otherhand a rig from 2015 should still do it's duty.

WaywardArgonian

Also I remember fairly recently that EP

Tigor wrote: »

Have experienced less lag or desyncs after server update. My computer is sometimes struggling when fighting at hot spots. But on the otherhand a rig from 2015 schould still do it's duty.

I don't know, it depends on the upgrades but 8 years is pretty ancient for a PC, and ESO is a resource-heavy game. I reckon a lot of your issues would disappear with more up-to-date hardware.

Tigor

WaywardArgonian wrote: »

Also I remember fairly recently that EP

Tigor wrote: »

Have experienced less lag or desyncs after server update. My computer is sometimes struggling when fighting at hot spots. But on the otherhand a rig from 2015 schould still do it's duty.

I don't know, it depends on the upgrades but 8 years is pretty ancient for a PC, and ESO is a resource-heavy game. I reckon a lot of your issues would disappear with more up-to-date hardware.

A contest/lottery were the best rig of this moment would be rewarded to play decent pvp, would give inside in what I should look for if I want to update all my hardware.

Jamie_Aubrey

Sidewaves89 wrote: »

Why is DC cheating? I mean i see that whole map is blue, but what it have to do with cheating?

Nah fam, yo just colour blind yo, DeeCee NEVER turn the map blue, u b trippin dawg

But yeah, DC take the map the minute our AD group log off, they can't do it when we are on, so much so they end up losing all the scrolls and then log out

Sidewaves89

Jamie_Aubrey wrote: »

Sidewaves89 wrote: »

Why is DC cheating? I mean i see that whole map is blue, but what it have to do with cheating?

Nah fam, yo just colour blind yo, DeeCee NEVER turn the map blue, u b trippin dawg

But yeah, DC take the map the minute our AD group log off, they can't do it when we are on, so much so they end up losing all the scrolls and then log out

Oh, dragon_kobra, great expert in pvd and writing hatewispers to other players. I'm sorry, but I won't take your word for it, I'd rather wait for someone more reliable to answer.

WaywardArgonian

People are just frustrated when they spend the entire night wiping, which is understandable.

Sure, DC currently makes the map unfun to play for big parts of the day. If you have a decent ballgroup, being a full 12-man already removes a lot of challenge, and stacking 2 of those ballgroups is just cheesing it. But cheesing is allowed and I would never call people cheaters just for playing the game that they paid for in a certain way.

A sense of perspective is needed though. I often play with Lights and I can't imagine it to be much fun to go up against a group of 30+ people that just steamrolls everything during most of the night.

And during that one long campaign in June/July, EP was faction-stacking with (semi-)organized groups all the time and night-capping, after which they bragged about how they won that campaign.

So in conclusion, every faction cheeses it in their own way from time to time. Sometimes you are on the receiving end of it, and sometimes you are participating in it, maybe without even realizing you are doing so. It's kind of a shame most of the people who complain so much about 'cheaters' and purple/green/orange alliance are all such staunch faction loyalists, because experiencing things from the other side would probably remove a lot of their suspicions.

Sidewaves89

Tigor wrote: »

Sidewaves89 wrote: »

Why is DC cheating? I mean i see that whole map is blue, but what it have to do with cheating?

The map is blue while the rest does not want to play against DC anymore. The campaign is dead at prime time for at least one week. Clearly an indication that the motivation is gone.

Campaign began slowly die right after the servers upgrade, when it became easier to play in proc campaigns in prime time. Dev team probably should undo changes they made to Ravenwatch and make it again just no cp campaign.

Tigor

Sidewaves89 wrote: »

Tigor wrote: »

Sidewaves89 wrote: »

Why is DC cheating? I mean i see that whole map is blue, but what it have to do with cheating?

The map is blue while the rest does not want to play against DC anymore. The campaign is dead at prime time for at least one week. Clearly an indication that the motivation is gone.

Campaign began slowly die right after the servers upgrade, when it became easier to play in proc campaigns in prime time. Dev team probably should undo changes they made to Ravenwatch and make it again just no cp campaign.

Keep the non proc no cp as it is and put the alliance lock (or soft lock of e.g.12 hours) back first, then we will see what this campaign will look like. It is also just summer holidays.

Jamie_Aubrey

Sidewaves89 wrote: »

Jamie_Aubrey wrote: »

Sidewaves89 wrote: »

Why is DC cheating? I mean i see that whole map is blue, but what it have to do with cheating?

Nah fam, yo just colour blind yo, DeeCee NEVER turn the map blue, u b trippin dawg

But yeah, DC take the map the minute our AD group log off, they can't do it when we are on, so much so they end up losing all the scrolls and then log out

Oh, dragon_kobra, great expert in pvd and writing hatewispers to other players. I'm sorry, but I won't take your word for it, I'd rather wait for someone more reliable to answer.

Cause you know am right, DC take the map the minute we log off and can't do anything when we are online but troll around rocks

dinokstrunz

Tigor wrote: »

Sidewaves89 wrote: »

Tigor wrote: »

Sidewaves89 wrote: »

Why is DC cheating? I mean i see that whole map is blue, but what it have to do with cheating?

The map is blue while the rest does not want to play against DC anymore. The campaign is dead at prime time for at least one week. Clearly an indication that the motivation is gone.

Campaign began slowly die right after the servers upgrade, when it became easier to play in proc campaigns in prime time. Dev team probably should undo changes they made to Ravenwatch and make it again just no cp campaign.

Keep the non proc no cp as it is and put the alliance lock (or soft lock of e.g.12 hours) back first, then we will see what this campaign will look like. It is also just summer holidays.

I guarantee you if ZoS bring back old Ravenwatch the population will skyrocket. It's been a semi graveyard for months. Nobody wants to play here simple as.

Jamie_Aubrey

Jamie_Aubrey wrote: »

Sidewaves89 wrote: »

Jamie_Aubrey wrote: »

Sidewaves89 wrote: »

Why is DC cheating? I mean i see that whole map is blue, but what it have to do with cheating?

Nah fam, yo just colour blind yo, DeeCee NEVER turn the map blue, u b trippin dawg

But yeah, DC take the map the minute our AD group log off, they can't do it when we are on, so much so they end up losing all the scrolls and then log out

Oh, dragon_kobra, great expert in pvd and writing hatewispers to other players. I'm sorry, but I won't take your word for it, I'd rather wait for someone more reliable to answer.

Cause you know am right, DC take the map the minute we log off and can't do anything when we are online but troll around rocks

Soo, lets talk about how DC DON'T PvDoor the map, this image has been faked of course

blktauna

I would love to get rid of the no-proc. I prefer a return to the simple no-CP vs CP as it used to be,

WaywardArgonian

As a healer I like no-proc. No juggling around support sets, just slap on Heartland Conqueror + sustain set and you're good to go.

Major_Toughness

CP are too effective and make the PvP combat less fun in my opinion.

Main culprits are Sustain By Suffering and Survival Instincts which make sustain SO much easier that except for those (Red slottables) and Orzorgas Smoked Bear Haunch/Jewels of Misrule you do not need any more sustain.

Whereas in noCP it is almost required to run Wretched Vitality or Roksa. While this isn't great for build diversity it does make the combat landscape much better in my opinion.

One of the main reasons noCP campaign was so popular on PC EU several years ago - it would normally lock before the CP campaign. A lot of people either don't have a lot of CP, or dislike the system in a PvP context.

WaywardArgonian

Any ballgroups recruiting on Ravenwatch? DM me if so.

Jamie_Aubrey

At least 6 different EP balls on last night (Monday) AD logged on and the map was red, AD continued to take most of the map back of course and take the scrolls back

Was some good fights

WaywardArgonian

EP and DC seem to do a contest of who can afternoon and night cap the most.

FirmamentOfStars

WaywardArgonian wrote: »

Any ballgroups recruiting on Ravenwatch? DM me if so.

Why would you want to join a ballgroup though? Nobody likes them, its some kind of braindead form of running together and I would not call it very skillful either. Sure it needs some skills and group play ability, but most ballgroup players you encounter outside of their group, are not particularly strong players.

WaywardArgonian

FirmamentOfStars wrote: »

WaywardArgonian wrote: »

Any ballgroups recruiting on Ravenwatch? DM me if so.

Why would you want to join a ballgroup though? Nobody likes them, its some kind of braindead form of running together and I would not call it very skillful either. Sure it needs some skills and group play ability, but most ballgroup players you encounter outside of their group, are not particularly strong players.

You have never played in a Ravenwatch ballgroup, have you?

It is vastly more challenging and skill-intensive than playing in a casual group. I know because by now I've played with just about any guild that'll take me.

FirmamentOfStars

WaywardArgonian wrote: »

FirmamentOfStars wrote: »

WaywardArgonian wrote: »

Any ballgroups recruiting on Ravenwatch? DM me if so.

Why would you want to join a ballgroup though? Nobody likes them, its some kind of braindead form of running together and I would not call it very skillful either. Sure it needs some skills and group play ability, but most ballgroup players you encounter outside of their group, are not particularly strong players.

You have never played in a Ravenwatch ballgroup, have you?

It is vastly more challenging and skill-intensive than playing in a casual group. I know because by now I've played with just about any guild that'll take me.

Did you not read my post thouroughly? I said it needs certain skills, but most ballgroupers outside of their ballgroup are not very good players on their own. I never compared it to casual groups and obviously a ball group requires more skill compared to a casual group of the same size. I was talking about the individual skill of a ballgrouper being not great in most cases.