Update on Cyrodiil Performance & Upcoming AOE Tests

Pinja

@TineaCruris They supposedly moved the tests back to the 8th

SCPCSedona

I can't tell - Is Rich Lambert saying that the change in aoe ability spammability will be changing throughout the entire game, PvE as well as PvP? Or is he saying that it's likely to impact only PvP?

SCPCSedona

SCPCSedona wrote: »

I can't tell - Is Rich Lambert saying that the change in aoe ability spammability will be changing throughout the entire game, PvE as well as PvP? Or is he saying that it's likely to impact only PvP?

I mean - Templar casts Ritual of Retribution, waits 3 seconds, casts Jabs, waits 3 seconds, casts Springs... nvm the group's all dead.

Elsonso

SCPCSedona wrote: »

I can't tell - Is Rich Lambert saying that the change in aoe ability spammability will be changing throughout the entire game, PvE as well as PvP? Or is he saying that it's likely to impact only PvP?

Unclear. All they are talking about is PVP, if that is any clue.

MurderMostFoul

While the tests are Cyro only, if they adopt any of the changes, I'm sure they will be game wide. They are not going to make such a huge skill behavior difference between PvP and PvE.

So if the changes are adopted, ZOS is going to need to perform a HUGE balance pass over all skills to prevent combat from being totally broken.

Unified_Gaming

TineaCruris wrote: »

"..... Once we launch Update 27 for PC on August 24, we will announce when one of the tests are beginning through an in-game announcement and will have a forum thread detailing which test is currently being performed. ....."

I haven't seen any in game announcements or communication about the tests, and things are clearly being changed.

What is going on?

Delayed until the 8th September

Azurya

Cyrodil is practically unplayable after the patchchanges
skills don´t go off
sieges fires far delayed, if at all
only makes sense to do some one bar thingy
and hope you come somehow through........

killing fun is easy for @ZOS
start please making things that realyy make sense, please

(and I have time to write this cauze just kicked off EU-PC server during passing a door..........)

TineaCruris

Pinja wrote: »

@TineaCruris They supposedly moved the tests back to the 8th

Changes took place to some skills with the update. Many times gap closers are completely greyed out on our bars, taunts are not working right. In both cases it seems like a targeting change of some kind.

At any rate, some changes went into effect on Monday for sure. People other than just myself noticed right away.

Pinja

TineaCruris wrote: »

Pinja wrote: »

@TineaCruris They supposedly moved the tests back to the 8th

Changes took place to some skills with the update. Many times gap closers are completely greyed out on our bars, taunts are not working right. In both cases it seems like a targeting change of some kind.

At any rate, some changes went into effect on Monday for sure. People other than just myself noticed right away.

If your noticing it in PvE they broke something again with the servers. All of what your seeing may be the result of an over strained server acting up doing weird things. I didn't read the whole thing but you may want to check out the Trials unplayable thread.

ZOS_GinaBruno

Hi all, just posted the details for these upcoming tests in this thread: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/544305/details-for-aoe-testing-in-cyrodiil/

Gythral

So, basicly, avoid Cyrodiil from 8 Sept to 20 Oct
Thanks for the heads up

ZOS_GinaBruno

Gythral wrote: »

So, basicly, avoid Cyrodiil from 8 Sept to 20 Oct
Thanks for the heads up

That's literally the exact opposite of what the last sentence says

Sandman929

Sounds like the good test starts Oct 5th. Now just get rid of healing other players you aren't grouped with and kill zerg healing calculations.

technohic

The last test there; they can have 12 in a group but once they get above 6, they get the cooldown penalty? Why not just cap it at 6?

Vevvev

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

That's literally the exact opposite of what the last sentence says

Don't worry Gina I'll show up. I most likely won't be enjoying myself during the tests but we'll see what happens and whether or not these cooldowns actually improve server performance. I have a strong feeling they won't but I'll be amazed if they do.

technohic

Vevvev wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

That's literally the exact opposite of what the last sentence says

Don't worry Gina I'll show up. I most likely won't be enjoying myself during the tests but we'll see what happens and whether or not these cooldowns actually improve server performance. I have a strong feeling they won't but I'll be amazed if they do.

Cant honestly say I'm having a good time always now...

Vevvev

technohic wrote: »

Cant honestly say I'm having a good time always now...

True..

casparian

Really great to see that ZOS is taking group size and group healing seriously enough to test them, and that they took the feedback from knowledgeable players on those points. A promising sign!

Cinbri

Can we get test of October 12-19 right now as permanent change and decrease number to 4 from 6, pretty please.

Moonsorrow

October 12-19 test is

Hope that one would be reality right now instantly.

silky_soft

Return of the stamblade

In a galaxy far far away...
Lived a khajiit nb yearning for a return to meta. Only to be completely roflstomped by a stamcro then a stamdem in quick succession.

Satiar

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hi all, just posted the details for these upcoming tests in this thread: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/544305/details-for-aoe-testing-in-cyrodiil/

As someone who's played in Cyro groups for all my years in ESO, these are some pretty rough things to read, Gina. All those years of begging for fixes and the proposed fix is "who needs groups anyways?"

Talos have mercy

Luke_Flamesword

I don't like idea of 12-people groups. It will be much harder to find a group for randoms beacuse not a lot of people want or know how to lead. Of course this is won't be a problem for guilds and some hardcore players who will zerg anyway, even with this limitation. Personally i prefer AOEs limitations :P

Alchimiste1

The October proposed changes are the best things I have seen in a long while. I pray this goes through

wills43b14_ESO

Unfortunately, I'm skeptical of the interpretation of the results of these tests. From a statistical point of view in an uncontrolled setting (correlation is not causation!), the effects of each of these tests will likely be confounded with a drop in the population (or at least, potentially, a certain sub-category of the population theorized to cause these problems). Even worse, there might be an interaction to where the results from the test and probably loss of players/ball groups will have an almost "magical" effect on the performance (however this is measured).

Tl;dr: All I'd like to say is, be wary of interpreting the results without FULLY understanding the background of what led to them... in uncontrolled experiments correlation is NOT causation!

maxjapank

September 8-14: Shared global AoE cooldown, 3 second timer
For this test, all AoE abilities will have a shared global 3 second cooldown. This means when you cast an AoE, you will not be able to cast another AoE for 3 seconds. For example, if you cast Ritual of Retribution, you won’t be able to cast Puncturing Sweep for 3 seconds.

No need to worry. No one is going to cast Ritual of Retribution. lol

agegarton

Looks good to me.

This looks like ZoS actually trying to resolve the performance issues that have bugged the game for too long, that we've all complained about for so long.

I'll support anything that looks like progress.

Miswar

Funny thing about this "experiment".

There has always been aoe stuff spammed on Cyrodil and with much more player population.

You have decreased the population caps, you and yet the pvp campaigns have worked worse and worse and taken nose dive in recent times.

Thus this seems to be just another wild goose chase which just end ruining everything and core of the game,

Few things you (ZOS) have avoided commenting like a plague....

!) Have you actually improved your server hardware at all?
2) Have downgraded your server contracts meaning they are much cheaper provider nowdays...

Please enlighten us... I would say the answer is to 1) is NO and 2) YES.

Considering that your pve side is a utter mess as well nowdays.

Ofcourse it does not help that you have ignored bugs for ages and just piled up stuff on broken foundation.

As said please enligten us on the above thigns...

Nyladreas

ESO_Nightingale wrote: »

This would *** destroy this game's popularity. What on earth?

Doubt that's the main reason for majority of people that play ESO.

HIGHLY DOUBT IT in fact.

alainjbrennanb16_ESO

this test will ether be nothing or hard, this comes down to how they do the test, ie: if cooldown from cast this first test will have a zero effect, like wall of elements 12 secs with an aoe cool down of 3 secs at start of cast means you can just recast will no effect, if the cooldown comes after the aoe finish then it will have an effect