NA PC CALL 2 ARMS: DC and AD, SHOR NEEDS YOU!

Montayva

Durham wrote: »

Reds are freaking zerging 30 strong at Allessia .... steamrolled SEJ ..... Just about handful of AD in Cyrodil atm .... This is what I fear about this campaign the REDs are overpopulated on CP it seems .... This means that RED are going to be overflowing here very strong tomarrow.....

Honestly it's not just red. It's the simple fact that each factions Zerg just has a different 'prime time' atm.

Some_Guy

NBrookus wrote: »

Some_Guy wrote: »

Maybe I'm not a "Pro PvPer" but... I'm going to take what I feel like taking whenever I can take it.
All the keeps? All the resources? All the towns? Oh yeah! Maybe even a few delves!
Probably not. I'm not a huge fan of PvDoor. there's just more AP to be made from actual players, but my point is: You want to stop me? Do it.
You wanna talk about it from a "being fair" angle? Why should I and my friends have to wait until you... "Shor".... up the numbers (see what I did there?) before we start "PvPing"? If there isn't action going on, I'll make some, somehow, some way.
Wanna talk about it from a questing angle? Quests give AP too. You want me to take things closer to my home keeps? Take them back so the quests I receive are more likely to include them, rather than your home keeps. You want to take them back? Prepare for me to defend (if I feel like it) because D-ticks are better than O-ticks. I'm in it for the AP afterall.
You wanna talk about it from a role playing perspective? It dries my scales to see such a state of affairs that you believe it to be "toxic" when people do the thing Zenimax keeps telling us we can do: Play How You Want. I am full of sap and fury when someone says it's not right that we take all the things. Should we not?
Perhaps your egg was left in the shade too long....

Yes, an emp group camping gate keeps on an underpopulated campaign is toxic, because it drives new players away. It'll make older players log out in frustration sometimes, too. It's toxic because it reduces the amount of PvP everyone get to participate in, including the for the faction busy sitting on every last resource. Including for you.

Leaving factions their trikeeps when you dominate the map is good for everyone.

Then take them back from us. I'm not interested in keeping you happy or giving you a handicap. You want it back? Take it from me.

NightbladeMechanics

I swear this map has flipped 3 or 4 times just tonight. lol

Update: currently watching a group of DC flip it again. @Irylia showed up with one or two other EP and got promptly run over in BRK.

Montayva

Some_Guy wrote: »

NBrookus wrote: »

Some_Guy wrote: »

Maybe I'm not a "Pro PvPer" but... I'm going to take what I feel like taking whenever I can take it.
All the keeps? All the resources? All the towns? Oh yeah! Maybe even a few delves!
Probably not. I'm not a huge fan of PvDoor. there's just more AP to be made from actual players, but my point is: You want to stop me? Do it.
You wanna talk about it from a "being fair" angle? Why should I and my friends have to wait until you... "Shor".... up the numbers (see what I did there?) before we start "PvPing"? If there isn't action going on, I'll make some, somehow, some way.
Wanna talk about it from a questing angle? Quests give AP too. You want me to take things closer to my home keeps? Take them back so the quests I receive are more likely to include them, rather than your home keeps. You want to take them back? Prepare for me to defend (if I feel like it) because D-ticks are better than O-ticks. I'm in it for the AP afterall.
You wanna talk about it from a role playing perspective? It dries my scales to see such a state of affairs that you believe it to be "toxic" when people do the thing Zenimax keeps telling us we can do: Play How You Want. I am full of sap and fury when someone says it's not right that we take all the things. Should we not?
Perhaps your egg was left in the shade too long....

Yes, an emp group camping gate keeps on an underpopulated campaign is toxic, because it drives new players away. It'll make older players log out in frustration sometimes, too. It's toxic because it reduces the amount of PvP everyone get to participate in, including the for the faction busy sitting on every last resource. Including for you.

Leaving factions their trikeeps when you dominate the map is good for everyone.

Then take them back from us. I'm not interested in keeping you happy or giving you a handicap. You want it back? Take it from me.

And then people will start complaining when the map is all one colour, no one comes out to fight them, and there's nothing left to pvdoor and no easy ap to be made. Smh, some people need to think before they speak

Rickter

I honestly feel like Shor has picked up and the zergs are on at the same time.

At least around East Coast US Primetime. Last night, the AD group <Evil Hearts> was back with a group of 11-16 (could have had pugs in tow) and EP had, as you guys have already stated, large numbers. Last night was Wednesday too, so <Scourge Alliance> was doing their usual awesomeness.

DC had good numbers too. I had 10 even, and I talked to Cristo's group, <Senato Leones> which is a brazillian guild and they had 20+ as reported by him.

in that regard - there were sizable forces on all three sides at the same time. Meaning Shor is sizing up very nicely, at least in that time bracket

Prince_of_all_Pugs

Rickter wrote: »

I honestly feel like Shor has picked up and the zergs are on at the same time.

At least around East Coast US Primetime. Last night, the AD group <Evil Hearts> was back with a group of 11-16 (could have had pugs in tow) and EP had, as you guys have already stated, large numbers. Last night was Wednesday too, so <Scourge Alliance> was doing their usual awesomeness.

DC had good numbers too. I had 10 even, and I talked to Cristo's group, <Senato Leones> which is a brazillian guild and they had 20+ as reported by him.

in that regard - there were sizable forces on all three sides at the same time. Meaning Shor is sizing up very nicely, at least in that time bracket

yes rickster the server is starting to show the fruits of your labor, good job.

Prince_of_all_Pugs

LOOK AT THE POP THIS IS AMAZING!

Rickter

You know those queues are crucial when you see Pact Militia on Shor.

NightbladeMechanics

@Prince_of_all_Pugs lol wait until we see what the pops do after the holiday event is over to celebrate. Don't count your chickens before they hatch. Remember, Haderus had a healthy playerbase before the non-CP, double AP test week, then it died completely after. Hopefully we see something of the opposite with Shor.

Minno

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

@Prince_of_all_Pugs lol wait until we see what the pops do after the holiday event is over to celebrate. Don't count your chickens before they hatch. Remember, Haderus had a healthy playerbase before the non-CP, double AP test week, then it died completely after. Hopefully we see something of the opposite with Shor.

If EP dominates the server, it will be great for solo or 2- man groups looking to pull players or have a challenge.

But for other groups, it will be hard work.

Rickter

What ive been seeing in my guild in particular, are a lot of folks are really starting to enjoy pvp and the veil of intimidation is being lifted. whether they become regular pvpers after the event, who knows, but ive been enjoying seeing the guild pvp together the way they have the last few days. and even before the event started i was starting to see consistent interest to fill groups of 8 or so.

its my hope that some will become regular pvpers and we can start building from the foundations that were lain at the start of 2017.

I dont know whats going on on Sotha Sil - in fact, I'm questioning whether CN Daniel is still "gate camping" the other factions at this point. usually that kind of activity comes like a violent storm then subsides. Can anyone confirm?

Prince_of_all_Pugs

i really hope the AD and DC stay on the server after the ap, event. I really like the AD population on the server, i hope they stay. the ep pop on the server though is LOL bad, so kena there really isnt any reason more DC shouldnt home here.

Rickter

Looks like Shor is very healthy after this event. Legions of Mordor made their move and coupled with Senato Leones and Requiem, DC can actually compete on the map. EP is still a bit overwhelming, i have no idea what AD was doing last night besides flipping Glade and Rayles resources while an EP emp sat on the throne :rolleyes:

in any case - Shor seems to have shaped up quite nicely. I think the Midyear Mayhem event did quite a lot to bring PVP attention to the masses. Hope the momentum stays.

NACtron

Rickter wrote: »

Looks like Shor is very healthy after this event. Legions of Mordor made their move and coupled with Senato Leones and Requiem, DC can actually compete on the map. EP is still a bit overwhelming, i have no idea what AD was doing last night besides flipping Glade and Rayles resources while an EP emp sat on the throne :rolleyes:

in any case - Shor seems to have shaped up quite nicely. I think the Midyear Mayhem event did quite a lot to bring PVP attention to the masses. Hope the momentum stays.

Pact Militia was in Shor for most of the event. The vivec que was too high. We are back in Vivec now though. A lot of EP from Vivec did the same thing we did. I wonder how Shor is that the event is over

NBrookus

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NACtron wrote: »

Rickter wrote: »

Looks like Shor is very healthy after this event. Legions of Mordor made their move and coupled with Senato Leones and Requiem, DC can actually compete on the map. EP is still a bit overwhelming, i have no idea what AD was doing last night besides flipping Glade and Rayles resources while an EP emp sat on the throne :rolleyes:

in any case - Shor seems to have shaped up quite nicely. I think the Midyear Mayhem event did quite a lot to bring PVP attention to the masses. Hope the momentum stays.

Pact Militia was in Shor for most of the event. The vivec que was too high. We are back in Vivec now though. A lot of EP from Vivec did the same thing we did. I wonder how Shor is that the event is over

Yesterday it was empty except for a small DC emp flip group during the day, then evening was a red zerg. Not a particularly big zerg -- last I checked it was 2 bars to 1 and 1 -- but significantly outnumbering the other factions.

No sign of the larger AD groups from Haderus last night, but even Vivec was quiet and dull; I think people are a little glutted on pvp right now and taking a break. Still I'm guessing there will be too many EP again.

Rickter

I had some of the best pvp ive had in a long time last night on Shor.


like im not even trolling.

the EP empress group was at the very least 15 but im going to say when they were pushing the map, it was most definitely 20 or more.

DC was relatively scattered and unorganized until Requiem logged on. the first 46 minutes was reclaiming our gate keeps but we did an amazing scroll interception and recovery from the emp. DC pushed nikel, ash, ales, chalman (epic battle there calling for the combined efforts of Requiem and Senato Leones) and AD took alessia and roe which left BRK the last keep standing.

Idk what happened to senato leones but my group dropped from 10 to 7 and we just didnt have the firepower to push BRK. called it a night at 10:36PM EDT


AD was non-existent. there were two guys from <Salt Mining Inc> who im sure complained about us zerging them down but i have no sympathy with that as they were picking us off our horses, and harassing Rayles instead of pushing EP the entire night.

After multiple outnumbered encounters with the empress, ending with us wiping them on 6 separate occasions ranging from the aforementioned scroll interception, open field fighting between chal and brk, and sneak bombs while they tried taking chal and dragonclaw - man, it was amazing. 119k ap from 8:15PM - 10:35PM


with that being said: i agree with @NBrookus people are burnt out from PVP after the limited time event and a lot of people are exasperated after getting their laurels. theyll be back, give em a week or two. meanwhile, awesome awesome night on shor.

Soul_Demon

NBrookus wrote: »

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NACtron wrote: »

Rickter wrote: »

Looks like Shor is very healthy after this event. Legions of Mordor made their move and coupled with Senato Leones and Requiem, DC can actually compete on the map. EP is still a bit overwhelming, i have no idea what AD was doing last night besides flipping Glade and Rayles resources while an EP emp sat on the throne :rolleyes:

in any case - Shor seems to have shaped up quite nicely. I think the Midyear Mayhem event did quite a lot to bring PVP attention to the masses. Hope the momentum stays.

Pact Militia was in Shor for most of the event. The vivec que was too high. We are back in Vivec now though. A lot of EP from Vivec did the same thing we did. I wonder how Shor is that the event is over

Yesterday it was empty except for a small DC emp flip group during the day, then evening was a red zerg. Not a particularly big zerg -- last I checked it was 2 bars to 1 and 1 -- but significantly outnumbering the other factions.

No sign of the larger AD groups from Haderus last night, but even Vivec was quiet and dull; I think people are a little glutted on pvp right now and taking a break. Still I'm guessing there will be too many EP again.

Having too many of any one faction is absolutely impossible. As many have read in forums the feature of tri-faction alliance play has put the game in a place where those players switch up sides to whoever is outnumbered because they like to balance with that feature and play with their friends. So, rest assured if any faction outnumbers any other, those players always seek the underdog to fight with.

Durham

We were on Shore (4) last night 7:30pm to 8:30 ... could not find any reds to kill we pushed to BRK... took all the resources no response . We a little burnt on PVP atm so with no action we left... 1 of our guys was afk and eventually saw a large force of red showed up... They were 2 bars and running all together... spread out ... run multiple groups spread the PVP out...

There is absolutely no reason to run over 12 in a group with pop bars at 2 or less... You can do everything on the map easily with just 4... 12 is more then plenty to do what ever you want ...

I SEE tons of these 24 man zerg balls that contain freaking horrible players and they are rank 40 and above... some literally can't CC break... Guys you don't need to be carried here learn your toon use all your abilities .. get better ..

NBrookus

Soul_Demon wrote: »

NBrookus wrote: »

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NACtron wrote: »

Rickter wrote: »

Looks like Shor is very healthy after this event. Legions of Mordor made their move and coupled with Senato Leones and Requiem, DC can actually compete on the map. EP is still a bit overwhelming, i have no idea what AD was doing last night besides flipping Glade and Rayles resources while an EP emp sat on the throne :rolleyes:

in any case - Shor seems to have shaped up quite nicely. I think the Midyear Mayhem event did quite a lot to bring PVP attention to the masses. Hope the momentum stays.

Pact Militia was in Shor for most of the event. The vivec que was too high. We are back in Vivec now though. A lot of EP from Vivec did the same thing we did. I wonder how Shor is that the event is over

Yesterday it was empty except for a small DC emp flip group during the day, then evening was a red zerg. Not a particularly big zerg -- last I checked it was 2 bars to 1 and 1 -- but significantly outnumbering the other factions.

No sign of the larger AD groups from Haderus last night, but even Vivec was quiet and dull; I think people are a little glutted on pvp right now and taking a break. Still I'm guessing there will be too many EP again.

Having too many of any one faction is absolutely impossible. As many have read in forums the feature of tri-faction alliance play has put the game in a place where those players switch up sides to whoever is outnumbered because they like to balance with that feature and play with their friends. So, rest assured if any faction outnumbers any other, those players always seek the underdog to fight with.

Which is exactly what I'll do when the numbers stabilize. I'd rather play my EP characters, second choice AD... but will dust off my DC characters if the campaign is reasonably active with AD and EP well matched but DC consistently the underdog.

Population imbalance isn't created by black faction small groups, it's created by larger guilds running full raids or close to it. EP has two running 12-24; AD used to have one running 24+ and pug herding in Haderus but is currently MIA; DC had nothing like that to compete with them.

Prince_of_all_Pugs

my time on shor is over, im gonna head to sotha stil to fight a Big scary dragon, how likes killing servers to inflate his self esteem. Shor is shaping up rather nicely (still needs more AD), good work everyone who helped out with the colonization effort.@rickster your in charge now!

Rickter

lol. we'll do our best.

Its a good server for us. No one in Requiem is an ultra-competitive pvper. I only push my group according to what we have that night and Requiem is a mixed bag of seasoned player and newcomers. I dont tell people what gear to wear, what ultimates to run, or what class they need to be. I would like for them to wear tabards but thats not even a requirement. We are just, Requiem, and I am fortunate to be surrounded by incredibly supportive individuals that believe in something more than themselves.

EP can be overwhelming, but I think even they know 24 against 7 isnt that much fun. idk where AD was but between EP and DC last night, it was good solid fighting. maybe a little one sided in favor of us but EP had EMP so it balanced out.

Good luck on Sotha Sil @Prince_of_all_Pugs as ive said elsewhere, try to set the example. dont stoop to their level. and if nothing else, try and reason with the guy. if he spits in your face, dont lose your cool, just keep fightin the good fight.

Durham

Yea having issues getting my guild out there atm... They are a little burned from the event.. Last night we never made it out...

We will field 4-9 on given nights AD

NBrookus

Unfortunately, it seems Shor is back to the red cesspool that was Haderus. After my group of 3 logged off last night and Dead Wait (~4 last night?) logged about the same time I think, there was zero opposition to EP on the map. Until then, our two groups and a handful of pugs were holding the map against 2 bars of EP with pretty good success and making gobs of AP.

Without naming and shaming the current EP emp that is urging everyone in zone chat to hold every resource on the map red, suffice it to say that EP is not being a reasonable partner in making this campaign fun. And with 2-3x the score points of the other factions, this isn't even about bumping the score for a campaign win. I would be ashamed to play EP on Shor right now.

AD and DC, Shor needs you.

Riggsy

NBrookus wrote: »

That map looks like Xerxes and Id imagine Kastav.

Rickter

NBrookus wrote: »

Without naming and shaming the current EP emp that is urging everyone in zone chat to hold every resource on the map red, suffice it to say that EP is not being a reasonable partner in making this campaign fun. And with 2-3x the score points of the other factions, this isn't even about bumping the score for a campaign win. I would be ashamed to play EP on Shor right now.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^
this is why I cant really condemn Chuck Norris or Dragonknight Daniel

CN is retribution.

NBrookus

Except one has nothing to do with the other. *** behavior is *** behavior, no matter what faction.

Scyantific

Rickter wrote: »

NBrookus wrote: »

Without naming and shaming the current EP emp that is urging everyone in zone chat to hold every resource on the map red, suffice it to say that EP is not being a reasonable partner in making this campaign fun. And with 2-3x the score points of the other factions, this isn't even about bumping the score for a campaign win. I would be ashamed to play EP on Shor right now.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^
this is why I cant really condemn Chuck Norris or Dragonknight Daniel

CN is retribution.

Lmao I'm still trying to figure out how these 2 are related in any way.


Like, are any of the Shor EP people who ran away from Sotha?

Rickter

I look at factions as a whole. before you say thats not a fair concept - you all know darn well players move from server to server like its no big deal.

technohic

Had fun Friday night as DC getting a dethrone and crowning a DC emp. Guess just enjoy it when it goes your way. With the population split up as much as it is now with CP, No Cp, multiple campaigns, and battle grounds; it's probably just a matter of being in the right place at the right time

NBrookus

Rickter wrote: »

I look at factions as a whole. before you say thats not a fair concept - you all know darn well players move from server to server like its no big deal.

I would say that is much less true for CP versus noCP than Shor versus Vivec.

technohic wrote: »

Had fun Friday night as DC getting a dethrone and crowning a DC emp. Guess just enjoy it when it goes your way. With the population split up as much as it is now with CP, No Cp, multiple campaigns, and battle grounds; it's probably just a matter of being in the right place at the right time

I admit it was fun watching the emp group get decimated by very outnumbered pugs.