NA PC CALL 2 ARMS: DC and AD, SHOR NEEDS YOU!

Rickter

Soul_Demon wrote: »

VV is not on Shor and hasn't been since the guesting over there for the event. Just FYI-

ah thank you for the update @Soul_Demon - I saw some of their tags last night but it was not what i had seen before numbers wise.

NBrookus wrote: »

I honestly don't know how big Legion of Lords is. They always seem to be in a sizable group but only a handful of tabards.

And I did go more conservative and went with what people usually run and do so consistently. There will always be ups and downs and wild cards. For example, I've seen Dreadlords with 65... but that's not "normal." And Ruin has only run one night this week unless they were on last night when I was gone.

Agreed. and yes RUIN was on last night. they were 8-13 deep as evidence to them back dooring Ales around 9:20PM EDT. Req had just taken Dragonclaw/Bruma, Fengrush had defended Bleakers from AD, Ales went burst and prevented us from pushing Chal. Req cleared Ales, and LoM/Feng/Req hit Chal while AD took Arrius

Chrlynsch

@Rickter

Scourge Wolves had a lot of fun last night, despite the numerous youtube clips we will undoubtedly be featured in.

That being said, it would always be good to have some more meat on AD and DC to rip through before coming up against A+ players that force dawnbreaker induced naps.

NightbladeMechanics

NBrookus wrote: »

Fengrush & fanboy brigade

LOL I want to see that on a tabbard.

Rickter

not a lot of competition tonight after the EP dethrone. as of this writing, LoM just started a raid of 20 and Dreadlords were out with 16 according to Miats so most likely more.

It was kind of funny because Palee came onto the server with quite the inspiring fervor, and most of the map was blue. We had just finished telling him that there wasnt much left on the map to fight over and we had just crowned an emperor. Right after we made that exchange, the EP army swooped in at BRK mine and resources all over the map started lighting up.

it was funny and sad. I didnt want to leave when the fighting started to pick up like that. but i think Shor is in good hands with LoM.

Requiem crowned DC emperor and had to log. was goood fight early on at Chalman for the dethrone. three way fighting and all that. but right after that battle, seemed like both AD and EP logged only to come back at 10:30PM EDT.

anyways, you all have a good weekend and thanks again for the week of awesome pvp.

wolfwraith37

So what is the population like through out the day? Shor sounds like a lot more fun right now than Sotha is, but I only get to play mornings during the week. Is there anything going on then or is it pretty much only during primetime that stuff is going on?

Rickter

wolfwraith37 wrote: »

So what is the population like through out the day? Shor sounds like a lot more fun right now than Sotha is, but I only get to play mornings during the week. Is there anything going on then or is it pretty much only during primetime that stuff is going on?

Hey @wolfwraith37 sorry again about the sotha thread. Hope things are back to normal.

I cannot speak for Shor during non-primetime hours. Currently my personal play time schedule is Sun-Thurs 7:30pm-10:30pm eastern. I do have a small man (4 or less) that pvp during morning hours and they do witness activity. When i log in, the map is *usually* red with DC holding gate keeps and maybe bruma. When requiem spins up, we generally secure the north and fight over the rest.

I swear on the life of my cats or both of my pinky fingers that i have had the most fulfilling and fun pvp i have ever experienced on both tuesday and wednesday night. It was a defining moment for my guild as we have slowly grown as pvpers, team mates and a guild.

But again, this is during primetime and i cant provide details of off hours. I strongly encourage you spend a week in shor. I know that sounds long but trust me, i homed on shor the day it went live and i was one of its biggest critics but i stuck around and now, 7 (?) weeks later I have seen with my own eyes the birth of a competitve environment.

Does that sound dramatic? Maybe. But the feeling wednesday night... man... i mean, ive never felt that before. Try it out. Its just a week bud.

wolfwraith37

@Rickter It's alright. Sotha is a very unhealthy campaign and has been for months with no end in sight, and it's just wearing everyone down. Especially this week mornings at least have been brutal.

Also I doubt a week in Shor will seem that long compared to Sotha lol. A couple of guildmates are also interested in checking Shor out as well so I think I'll guest it and check it out for a bit before making rehoming decisions at the end of the current campaign.

lol maybe a little dramatic. But honestly that sounds great. I mean, my bar is literally so low that it's just "consistently have fun again" which is pretty sad. I still have some hope that things turn around in Sotha soon, but I'll definitely be checking out Shor when I can.

Rickter

well i wish you the best @wolfwraith37 - always looking for good friendly competition.

FYI all, I spoke with Dopem last night and he did confirm Shor would be LoM's home campaign. Im sure they will bounce around as well but thats what i was told.

Last night was weird, its almost like EP and LoM got active on the server at the exact same time. maybe they saw the DC emperor coronation and mobilized to flip the map? idk.

currently, outside of GTFO, Dreadlords, and Legion of Lords, im not sure what the EP representation is on the server. I just know they can conjure large numbers and dominate the map occasionally.

<DEAD WAIT> is still repping AD in good fashion but they would really benefit another medium to large scale guild to contend with current (as of yesterday) DC numbers and EP numbers.

what faction are you, may i ask?

Durham

Thank you @fenrush for refering to me as a perma blocking cheese$@#%$ and the other was Mr. Block lol on your twitch .... Now everyone in my little group is calling me that crap lol .... But to clear a few things up .. Not that you really give (*&^*^

I did have two pieces of sturdy that night but I was running no blocking jewrly glyphs .. Also I did have tremorscales shoulders on but not the helmet..I have not run tremor scales since the last nerf.... I was giving Altcasts build a run its the max stam build he post 6 days ago... So I was actually running about 47K stam and 26k health that night. So I was running no procs that night ...BTW did not like it ... No Blood Spawn on a DK just feels naked.. But yea I was was on defensive with you guys from the start I think we had healers in 1 fight but we just melted away fairly quickly lol

I was ran over several times that night Now I have to listen to my new nickname for the next 2 months or so bleh....... My group watch that twitch and just laughed at each other, mainly me ... thanks for the fights well sorta of haha


@wolfwraith37 Its good action no lag during Primetime EST. I would say the action is pretty good from 6pm to 12pm most nights ... If a large guild starts to run its gets pretty ugly quick... During off hours Im not sure .. But generally the map gets painted a color ... But I do like the smaller action and its fun most of the time (NO LAG) .... The last two nights have been rough for my small group due to the setup of the map and hitting much harder opponents .... Opponents that are set up better and just play more and better players .... We also have not had our full group this past two days... At times no healers lol ...

NBrookus

EP just has raw numbers. DK Dunk Squad (small group) was there as well last night after a haitus, but in the past JD hasn't wanted to play the 7 day (not enough action), so it might not be permanent.

Prediction: Dreadlords will avoid fighting LoM and hit AD instead.

Durham

NBrookus wrote: »

EP just has raw numbers. DK Dunk Squad (small group) was there as well last night after a haitus, but in the past JD hasn't wanted to play the 7 day (not enough action), so it might not be permanent.

Prediction: Dreadlords will avoid fighting LoM and hit AD instead.

I agree...AD is peaking from about 7pm to 9pm est.. then our numbers start to drop... If the numbers become to much for yellow to handle and they start to get rolled they go do something else like Vevic or some type of PVE .....

NBrookus

Durham wrote: »

NBrookus wrote: »

EP just has raw numbers. DK Dunk Squad (small group) was there as well last night after a haitus, but in the past JD hasn't wanted to play the 7 day (not enough action), so it might not be permanent.

Prediction: Dreadlords will avoid fighting LoM and hit AD instead.

I agree...AD is peaking from about 7pm to 9pm est.. then our numbers start to drop... If the numbers become to much for yellow to handle and they start to get rolled they go do something else like Vevic or some type of PVE .....

Yeah I lol'd at "LoM started with 20"... which was more than the entire AD faction could muster in one place.

FENGRUSH

Durham wrote: »

Thank you @fenrush for refering to me as a perma blocking cheese$@#%$ and the other was Mr. Block lol on your twitch .... Now everyone in my little group is calling me that crap lol .... But to clear a few things up .. Not that you really give (*&^*^

I did have two pieces of sturdy that night but I was running no blocking jewrly glyphs .. Also I did have tremorscales shoulders on but not the helmet..I have not run tremor scales since the last nerf.... I was giving Altcasts build a run its the max stam build he post 6 days ago... So I was actually running about 47K stam and 26k health that night. So I was running no procs that night ...BTW did not like it ... No Blood Spawn on a DK just feels naked.. But yea I was was on defensive with you guys from the start I think we had healers in 1 fight but we just melted away fairly quickly lol

I was ran over several times that night Now I have to listen to my new nickname for the next 2 months or so bleh....... My group watch that twitch and just laughed at each other, mainly me ... thanks for the fights well sorta of haha


@wolfwraith37 Its good action no lag during Primetime EST. I would say the action is pretty good from 6pm to 12pm most nights ... If a large guild starts to run its gets pretty ugly quick... During off hours Im not sure .. But generally the map gets painted a color ... But I do like the smaller action and its fun most of the time (NO LAG) .... The last two nights have been rough for my small group due to the setup of the map and hitting much harder opponents .... Opponents that are set up better and just play more and better players .... We also have not had our full group this past two days... At times no healers lol ...

You mispelled my tag name! And I mean no illwill. Sorry about any of that. I kept running into you guys over and over. And someone was tremorscaling me, I was pretty sure it was you! And I wasnt really trying to poke at your build, Ive used tremor too anyway its actually still very good. I was just slamming away at your shield so much that night I ended up yelling about it.

Its to a point its difficult to stream without chatting. Theres a handful of people I dont actually like for their behavior in game, and I choose to not talk about them for the most part rather than bring it up. Good fights to all.

wolfwraith37

@Rickter I'm AD.

I was able to play a little in Shor this morning, actually. Unfortunately, my main is guest locked since I popped into Vivec for a little while the other day so I had to bring a sorely neglected alt instead lol. I saw one other AD while I was on, I think.

Rickter

I have very mixed feelings about tonight, guys. Looks like a new group of DC i dont recognize moved to the server and an EP player whispered me thanking me for killing some EP and said they had been emp flipping for hours with the top 4 DC holders.

LoM didnt show up and DC got beat up. We had to fight Dreadlords in north while AD took all of our south western territories. We pushed back and grabbed Ash only to lose Ales and DC to EP. I had a group of 15 and we fought very hard but if what that EP told is true, then Shor needs more heroes.

Apoxsee

I am sure these players were taking advantage of the fact that new PVE content dropped and nobody would be on to stop them. Also most likely the reason the server was dead for the most part except for the Req, Dreadlords and Dead Weight guilds.

Rickter

I know people gave me a hard time about what I say in the Sotha thread, but. . .

Dutchessx

Rickter wrote: »

I know people gave me a hard time about what I say in the Sotha thread, but. . .

Yes but Rickter 2 wrongs don't make it right, it just kills servers.

Rickter

just pointing out the thin line @Dutchessx

Magus

Last night was pretty much an anomaly because of the new patch. TM dethroned DC on Sotha and rather than PvDoor the rest of the map, went over to Vivec for a fun incursion and got accused of being EP alts

Ran into a collection of like 10 different 4-6 small man groups at nikel and farmed for about an hour before we left lol. Having not played in CP for over a year, I think TM did rather well.

Durham

Shore is fun I think ZOS is not helping us build this server however... keeping 2 dead servers up further kills this server especially during the day

Durham

Sometimes the action is low but u can usually find it if you just look at the map ..

NBrookus

Well tonight I saw exactly one other AD player. I was hearing for EP friends that DC was "zerging" but I guess not hard enough since there were a few EP who felt compelled to be sure the AD gate keep resources were firmly red. One, confusingly, kept trying to shock wall of elements me on a templar, but since he was the only one who didn't actually run away every time they saw an enemy player, he gets more respect from me than the others. (*cough* last weeks "Former Emperors")

I went to Vivec and got more small scale action in 5 minutes than in an hour on Shor. Likely I'll stay there while EP and DC zerg at each other.

RIP Shor as the small scale campaign.

But yea, Durhame, having 3 campaigns that are nothing but people squabbling over a perma-emp title is not helping.

Lord_Hev

The two excess servers were already bleeding Shor dry... and then they bring back Almalexia.... what.... are they thinking? Seriously?

Rickter

NBrookus wrote: »

Likely I'll stay there while EP and DC zerg at each other.

I think this is a pretty unfair statement. I had 8 guildies with me all night plus 2 pugs. 10 total. the entire night. and a lot of them went afk/offline periodically for dinner/HotR dungeons, etc. <Dreadlords> had just a little under us but they had <Old Rusty Dragons> that pushed them up to 10 exactly as well.

Thats medium scale. Thats what Shor was supposed to be.

We had an amazing fight for the NiMohk Scroll after they ran Alma Ruma into the water (keeping it classy EP). 10 v 10. Guild v Guild. they wiped us, we put up a camp, wiped them, they put up a camp and we wiped them again. Thats 2 for Requiem 1 for Dreadlords/Old Rusty Dragons for those keeping score. Got all the way to Warden Farm and the scroll literally disappeared off my back and went back to an EP keep. The Fates were not with us.

If thats what you think is "zerging each other" i mean. . . i have no idea what to tell you.

Dreadlords - Idk why you feel inclined to teabag me but I feel like we complement each other in that we are good competition for each other. like the mongoose and the cobra. but i guess i shouldnt expect too much from a guild that will abuse an oversight mechanic and run scrolls into the water.


Another problem here is that these EP guilds dont log on until 9:30-10 EST. Requiem logs off at 10:30. i mean straight up, no one can game til midnight if they have a 1st shift job. I have maybe 3 people that stay on after that but in regards to Requiem proper, you have us from 7ish-10:30. If thats not enough of a time match, I can and will consider other options. maybe Vivec is where we're destined to be. Maybe Sotha Sil again? help me out here. LoM seems to spin up around 10PM as well. So maybe the campaign is more for those two guilds and not much a fit for Requiem's time slot?

NBrookus wrote: »

RIP Shor as the small scale campaign.

When was it established Shor was going to be the small scale campaign? Small scale = Battlegrounds
It was repeatedly stated Shor would be the medium scale Vivec overflow. 10 players is medium scale. any way you cut it that is by definition.

Ultimately: Its down to the players. as always. I heard AD was zerging Almalexia last night. why ZOS has so many servers open - i have no idea but what i do know is that hte AD that were here the last three weeks, would rather go somewhere else and that says more about them than zos.

If 10 players is zerging, should I move requiem to Vivec? considering the time difference mentioned above?

Dutchessx

DR had a small group (7) last night I checked Shor and it was completely red to the AD gates, only DC had keeps so we went back to Sotha. I also wish they would shut down the other campaigns they brought in for the event.

Rickter

Dc was pushed to their gates as well. When you logged, requiem had already started reclaiming our territories.

NBrookus

Then I heard wrong, @Rickter, or else there were DC online you didn't see. Because all I personally saw were those EP insistent on flipping resources back at BM and BB.

"Mid-Scale" versus "Small-Scale" is nitpicking over details. Whatever happened last night, Requiem is the only one that routinely runs a group that size; if there were other mid-sized groups, it'd be a lot more interesting. Requiem has been good for DC and I hope you stay.

Durham

First of all half of my guild is in PVE mode getting equipment... so we are at 1/2 strength in pvp which is bad because we are a small guild lol...

We had a group of 4 last early last night ... Red had the almost the whole map painted we started taking objectives... Red had our numbers and more they never engaged unless on a resource or inside a keep sitting in guards keep in mind these guards are all the way upgraded... (pushed to our gates)

It's very hard to push through level 10 guards that are chain negating and chain CCing and dealing with 5 to 8 players that only engage when you hit the guards..keep in mind oil is being dropped on your heads inside a keep..

After 1hr of PVP door ... we decided to go farm a resource well that was nice for about 30 minutes until they refused to come back out. .... so we sat there ....eventually we decided to go to vevic after two of our group left from boredom... so 2 of us decided to leave I think there were 1 or 2 others in AD last night when we left..

Durham

NBrookus wrote: »

Then I heard wrong, @Rickter, or else there were DC online you didn't see. Because all I personally saw were those EP insistent on flipping resources back at BM and BB.

"Mid-Scale" versus "Small-Scale" is nitpicking over details. Whatever happened last night, Requiem is the only one that routinely runs a group that size; if there were other mid-sized groups, it'd be a lot more interesting. Requiem has been good for DC and I hope you stay.

My guys show up solo early on the map they complain about the reds not engaging outside of guards you can even pull off the guards and they will not chase even if it's 3v1 at times.. This is at blood keep and you wipe a few times you are not going to keep playing a horse simulator..