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  • silvereyes
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    Saucy_Jack wrote: »
    See, it's a 50/50 thing for me.

    If I WAIT on patch day to download the update, I know that most (some) (maybe) of the gamebreaking bugs will be fixed.

    Downside: I could be missing out on getting A MILLION MATS FROM CRAFTING BAG GLITCHES!
    Upside: I could be missing out on having my ENTIRE BANK INVENTORY AND UPGRADES RESET!
    Downside: I could be missing out on having GLORIOUSLY OVERPOWERED GLITCHED GEAR!
    Upside: I could be missing out on having my HEALS GLITCHING TO DO SELF-DAMAGE!

    If I DON'T wait to download the patch and get online immediately, then simply take the upsides and downsides from above and reverse them.

    Since I tend to err on the side of caution, however, waiting's what I've done, and waiting's what I'll do.

    lol saucy. You forgot to mention:

    Downside: I could risk getting PERMABANNED for exploiting the glitch
  • mtwiggz
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    Ghostbane wrote: »
    Me: Gosh! The maintenance was really short for this DLC!

    ZoS: But wait!

    You just had to jinx it didn't you Ghost, DIDN'T YOU!?
  • KhajiitiLizard
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    LrdRahvin wrote: »
    @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

    ZOS is forcing me to go outside and risk the wrath of the mysterious yellow ball in the sky.

    I have left instructions with my attys. to begin legal action against ZOS if I am harmed in any way. (I have heard rumors that that yellow ball burns people!)

    I will post further updates as they are available in this thread...

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  • Rosvira
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    Pretty sure there's always some issues with every DLC release, not the worst thing to happen, at least problems are actually being resolved :D
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  • Phinix1
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    Phinix1 wrote: »
    Kas wrote: »
    would be so great for EU players to know if we're looking at an unknown eta between 15min and X horus or between 3 and X hours, by the way

    We'd provide an ETA if we had one, @Kas, promise. Sorry, we know this is frustrating. :( We're working to get the issue sorted and resolved as quickly as possible. We'd much rather everyone be in game enjoying Dark Brotherhood.

    So, what you're saying is...

    WE DON'T KNOW.

    o:)

    Well, at least they are being honest. I give them points for that. They are working as fast as they can. I don't know what more we could expect really.

    Right, of course. But what I actually meant was...

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    B)
  • rootimus
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    I guess they forgot to do the :thing: with the ~stuff~.
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  • InvitationNotFound
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    Downside: I could risk getting PERMABANNED for exploiting the glitch

    yet a perma ban has to come for exploiters. the last exploiters (crafting writs) only received a 3 day ban and were able to keep all their mats.
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  • Shazgob
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    While they are fixing things, maybe they will actually fix the removal of Ninglanel, hint hint.....
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  • jcaceresw
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    babedenny wrote: »
    Hopefully they're restoring my Wrecking Blow to it's former glory. I'm gonna really miss knocking people over cliffs, onto rooftops, off bridges, into walls...

    cheater
  • Epona222
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    Downside: I could risk getting PERMABANNED for exploiting the glitch

    yet a perma ban has to come for exploiters. the last exploiters (crafting writs) only received a 3 day ban and were able to keep all their mats.

    Well, if you ignore the 50+ permabans that were handed out in the last few days for a more recent cheat...
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  • babedenny
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    jcaceresw wrote: »
    babedenny wrote: »
    Hopefully they're restoring my Wrecking Blow to it's former glory. I'm gonna really miss knocking people over cliffs, onto rooftops, off bridges, into walls...

    cheater

    hell yea
  • MissBizz
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    So i'm PRETTY lazy right now.... anyone know what the item-related issue was?

    I really doubt it was the bug where you split stuff and half of it "seemed" to disappear (since it didn't actually..)
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  • CoachPower
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    LrdRahvin wrote: »
    @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

    ZOS is forcing me to go outside and risk the wrath of the mysterious yellow ball in the sky.

    I have left instructions with my attys. to begin legal action against ZOS if I am harmed in any way. (I have heard rumors that that yellow ball burns people!)

    I will post further updates as they are available in this thread...

    LOL.. This just made my day. :D
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  • m3k0g3kk
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    While they are fixing things, maybe they will actually fix the removal of Ninglanel, hint hint.....

    i dont think we will be that lucky... maybe one day we will get real sandbags to punch around
  • susmitds
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    Epona222 wrote: »
    Downside: I could risk getting PERMABANNED for exploiting the glitch

    yet a perma ban has to come for exploiters. the last exploiters (crafting writs) only received a 3 day ban and were able to keep all their mats.

    Well, if you ignore the 50+ permabans that were handed out in the last few days for a more recent cheat...

    Well, that was a direct combat exploit, not farming exploits.
  • silvereyes
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    Epona222 wrote: »

    yet a perma ban has to come for exploiters. the last exploiters (crafting writs) only received a 3 day ban and were able to keep all their mats.

    Well, if you ignore the 50+ permabans that were handed out in the last few days for a more recent cheat...

    Yeah, that was amazing. Meteor hackers => BANHAMMERED. Thank you ZOS!

  • Alex_Lex
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    I agree, if this resulted in an exploit, anyone who knowingly used it needs to be permabanned.
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  • Glaiceana
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    Well I read all the patch notes earlier, I tried to log in afterwards and it timed out as it normally does after a patch for me, left it about 10 mins to go and do something else, came back to try again and then checked the forums. :( Really wanted to see all these changes, got to wait a little longer I guess :)
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  • Rva_Kun
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    CoachPower wrote: »
    LrdRahvin wrote: »
    @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

    ZOS is forcing me to go outside and risk the wrath of the mysterious yellow ball in the sky.

    I have left instructions with my attys. to begin legal action against ZOS if I am harmed in any way. (I have heard rumors that that yellow ball burns people!)

    I will post further updates as they are available in this thread...

    LOL.. This just made my day. :D

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  • DaveMoeDee
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    andy.s wrote: »
    Cristiano wrote: »
    andy.s wrote: »
    How to test a major update ZOS-way:

    Step 1. Don't waste time for internal tests. Just push the patch to live servers in prime time.
    Step 2. Wait 4-5 hours for players to test the patch.
    Step 3. Find out the most obvious bugs.
    Step 4. Shut down the server for maintenance to fix these bugs.
    Step 5. ???
    Step 6. Profit!

    It amazes me what entitled jerks people are. By all means, please enlighten us on your extensive experience with testing major software. They don't take down servers lightly - they did it because an exploit was discovered. However, in your estimation, they have no idea what they are doing. Go you! You are an expert on the internet.

    Don't make it too obvious you are part of their programmers team. I didn't mean to hurt your feelings. Just letting you know there is really qualitative software in the world, and you should always improve to be able to deliver the best product to your customers. Instead we are just witnessing exactly the same issues over and over.

    You have no idea what you are talking about. All software gets released with bugs. That doesn't mean that they did test it. During testing, a ton of bugs are removed. Software is just too complex to expect to find all bugs when testing because you can't anticipate all things and because there is just so darn much to test.

    There is a reason some companies still have COBOL systems running or mission critical apps on even older languages. They have hammered out bugs and know that new software would introduce bugs and, by definition, you don't know what those bugs will be.

    "Best product" is an ambiguous and generally meaningless concept. It is the kind of phrase one would use when they haven't actually thought things through. Is best based on value, or do we need to spend billions of dollars and sacrifice deadlines indefinitely to make bug-free software for it to be the 'best'? Because you can't control costs and/or make deadlines if you want bug-free software.
  • Sansoul
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    rokrdt05 wrote: »
    Must be some new exploit people are doing. :D

    Nah, it's the same ones reporting in test, just not fixed before patching into live.

    /FACEPALM

  • Sovjet
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    Why are people always crying about all the bad things remember how dedicated ZOS is to this game, ITS NOT EASY TO MAKE A GAME THIS HUGE.

    Of course mistakes were made in the past but everyone makes mistakes so shut up wait for the servers to be back online and play the game.

    Thanks :)
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  • Latter
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    Anyone know what the exploit/issue was?
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  • DaveMoeDee
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    LrdRahvin wrote: »
    @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

    ZOS is forcing me to go outside and risk the wrath of the mysterious yellow ball in the sky.

    I have left instructions with my attys. to begin legal action against ZOS if I am harmed in any way. (I have heard rumors that that yellow ball burns people!)

    I will post further updates as they are available in this thread...

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  • Rosvira
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    That took a morbid turn..
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  • Phelaen
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    Cristiano wrote: »
    andy.s wrote: »
    How to test a major update ZOS-way:

    Step 1. Don't waste time for internal tests. Just push the patch to live servers in prime time.
    Step 2. Wait 4-5 hours for players to test the patch.
    Step 3. Find out the most obvious bugs.
    Step 4. Shut down the server for maintenance to fix these bugs.
    Step 5. ???
    Step 6. Profit!

    It amazes me what entitled jerks people are. By all means, please enlighten us on your extensive experience with testing major software. They don't take down servers lightly - they did it because an exploit was discovered. However, in your estimation, they have no idea what they are doing. Go you! You are an expert on the internet.

    game breaking bugs that require the server to be taken down 5 hours after launch means you did not test properly!!! end of story. they suck
  • icenstorm
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    eso servers patch day

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  • InvitationNotFound
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    Epona222 wrote: »
    Well, if you ignore the 50+ permabans that were handed out in the last few days for a more recent cheat...

    exploit = abusing in game mechanics. in the case of the writs it had to do with putting the writ in the bank and harvest the node.
    cheating = what you've seen at the weekend. it was a THIRD PARTY application and had nothing to do with bugged mechanics

    people were only perma banned for CHEATING, not EXPLOITING (3 day ban).

    you see the difference? ZOS indirectly said: exploit mechanic and profit, not much will happen.
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  • Fudly_budly
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    Epona222 wrote: »
    Downside: I could risk getting PERMABANNED for exploiting the glitch

    yet a perma ban has to come for exploiters. the last exploiters (crafting writs) only received a 3 day ban and were able to keep all their mats.

    Well, if you ignore the 50+ permabans that were handed out in the last few days for a more recent cheat...

    Thx for this. Good to know the cheaters got "meteored.":)
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