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Save Ninglenel DPS Test

Deltia
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Who knew ESO had a training dummy? I didn't until recently, only to find out it's being removed from the game (stealth like).

I find this completely unacceptable and want everyone to band together and let ZOS know we want change.

https://youtu.be/96OS6ut5in0

MY IMMERSION

While I respect people's willingness to play solo and enjoy their game, it shouldn't come at the cost of other people's fun and enjoyment either. Some people like me and many others LOVE testing DPS. I'm not the best at it nor anywhere close but constantly seeking improvement in this game combats is what keeps me coming back, its definitely not Cyrodiil lag.

PLEASE if you agree with this, leave a comment even /sign, share on Facebook, Twitter, the public bathroom at Seven Eleven anywhere. We need either this back in the game or an alternative solution for solo DPS testing.

I'm tired of dragging 3 friends to Blood Spawn for hours at a time, help me ZOS you're my only hope.

(PS I'm willing to pay crowns for this time of thing in game, I don't care just give me something similar or put it back)
Edited by Deltia on May 25, 2016 3:04PM
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  • Wollust
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    I don't understand why ZoS even uses a small amount of resources to remove the dummy while there is much more important stuff that needs to be fixed.
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  • zerosingularity
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    No. Reason being is we want them to focus on player housing, which will (confirmed?) have combat dummies in them.
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  • Refuse2GrowUp
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    We need to keep Ninglenel. I and many others use this NPC to refine our rotations. There is absolutely no reason to remove this NPC (that I know of).
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  • Deltia
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    No. Reason being is we want them to focus on player housing, which will (confirmed?) have combat dummies in them.

    This is something already in the game, how would this correlate to slowing down housing development?
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  • Rohamad_Ali
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    What harm was there to warrant its removal ? I don't get it .
  • staracino_ESO
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    First you need to unravel the conspiracy behind his removal... then the truth will be revealed.
  • DinOwned
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    I had no idea this guy existed but training dummies should have been added to the game by this point. Especially for us console players who have limited information with out all the add-ons. Combat text was a good start but we need more info.

    (Bump for Deltia to come to Lincoln)
  • Deltia
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    DinOwned wrote: »
    I had no idea this guy existed but training dummies should have been added to the game by this point. Especially for us console players who have limited information with out all the add-ons. Combat text was a good start but we need more info.

    (Bump for Deltia to come to Lincoln)

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  • Psychotius
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    Wow, didn't even know this worked as a DPS test, but now that I do it looks like it will only last another few days? What logic is being used to remove it? It's not an exploit, it can be accessed by anyone (assuming DC and EP players have completed main story), and is actually extremely useful.

    I got so sick of tanking Bloodspawn parses with Deltia and other friends, had we known this was in game I would probably not resent gargoyles at this point. Not cool...
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  • MatioFrench
    I had no idea this guy existed but see no reason to take it out. C'mon ZOS!
  • radiospam
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    First, about the reasoning behind the removal of this NPC - 'immersion'. What about the invisible meteor/crem guards in the final boss of VMA? Those break my immersion. Please remove those mechanics. The sliding bug in round 3, please remove the boss. It breaks my immersion.

    All joking aside, I feel like this is a waste of resources to 'fix/remove' this NPC from the game. That time and effort could be put toward fixing more pressing matters.

    So, please save our DPS test dummy. Do not remove him, he's helped us all so much.
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  • Archmage1
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    Definitely keep Ninglenel, or implement dummies! So simple, yet so effective.
  • jluchau
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    Taking this out makes no sense. It doesn't hurt anything. What it does do is provide a way for people like myself to test rotation of skills and DPS without having to depend on others to take me to bloodspawn. Why is ZOS waisting resources removing something that can only help people?

    And, I agree, I would pay crowns to have a dummy I can summon and practice with.
    Edited by jluchau on May 25, 2016 3:08PM
  • mosawer123
    Please ZoS do not remove!!! Or even better.. Make the training dummies by the Mages and Fighters Guild damageable.
  • Solariken
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    Save Ningy! As the ONLY way to reliably test sustained DPS currently, this guy needs to stay until ZOS gives proper training dummies.
    Edited by Solariken on May 25, 2016 3:10PM
  • GoodOrc
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    Save dumy NPS!!!
    antill you hawe somting for us!
  • code65536
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    No. Reason being is we want them to focus on player housing, which will (confirmed?) have combat dummies in them.

    Yes, training dummies are coming with Player Housing. .... But Player Housing is still many months away.

    Yes, Ninglenel is a bug that needs to be fixed. ... All we're asking is for them to temporarily "unfix" this bug and hold off on fixing this bug until Player Housing is released.

    The crux here is that we don't want to go for months without a tool as useful as this.
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  • Pontificius
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    C'mon ZOS why would you remove something we need and you don't provide, leave him be until you give us proper dummies!
  • DinOwned
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    Deltia wrote: »
    DinOwned wrote: »
    I had no idea this guy existed but training dummies should have been added to the game by this point. Especially for us console players who have limited information with out all the add-ons. Combat text was a good start but we need more info.

    (Bump for Deltia to come to Lincoln)

    FNP Friday? I can bring my wife and our screaming baby down?

    My wife and 2 yr old will keep them occupied while we nerd out. #SaveNinglenel
  • DarJar
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    Didn't know about this but now I do I totally agree that it should stay in the game
  • swaggasm
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    #SaveNinglenel
  • Aeladiir
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    Remove the unkillable bug, but please introduce an alternative.
    Edited by Aeladiir on May 25, 2016 3:25PM
  • Turelus
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    Well, they could always just add real dummies as they said they were planning the continue to fixed bugged NPC's.
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  • Kilandros
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    #SAVENINGLEWHATEVER
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  • Psychotius
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    Kilandros wrote: »
    #SAVENINGLEWHATEVER

    It's Niffle Diffle. #SaveNiffleDiffle
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  • dbrand001
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    Save Ninglenel! Test dummys are vital to mmos. There is a huge community that actually likes to do the content. A test dummy helps them learn how to get better, so they can do the content. Instead of wasting time to remove something already in the game start putting out DLC's that aren't broken, and fix the ones that are.
  • Will16
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    Yes keep him here
  • Erraln
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    Yep, asked almost immediately, and also a little more personally last week. No reply. Probably not.
  • radiospam
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    #SaveNiffleDiffle
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