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Save Ninglenel DPS Test

  • JohnnyBgood
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno, @ZOS_JessicaFolsom, @ZOS_KaiSchober, @ZOS_GaryA, @ZOS_TristanK...I am 100% behind Deltia on this issue we need this test dummy and cannot support you removing it due to "immersion" reasons. I'm losing "immersion" because I either can't log on, get kicked to home screen or cannot run vMSA or ICP or vDSA because of lag. Just keep the dps dummy.

    #SaveNinglenel
  • Lalaeith
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    /signed

    Or if you want to remove him, please introduce official dps dummies with the same bug somewhere else.
  • Origin
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    we need Ninglenel. After the awesome changes to come in DB, my sorc will only be able to kill Ninglenel and live to fight another day. :)
    Seriously now, in other MMO games there are always 2 types of dummies, one for PvE and one for PvP: SWTOR Training Dummy

    Until you guys figure out how to implement dedicated training dummies, it would be pity to remove this NPC. If you really have to change something, why don't you take another look at some of the class balancing that you are preparing for the DB.
  • GreatWhite000
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    It's pretty saddening that after being with him for hours and hours, that Ninglenel is leaving me. Probably to see his wife or something. Either way, it's fairly depressing that I won't have any unkillable NPCs to do a DPS test on and I'd rather him stay, bug or no bug.

    /sign
  • timidobserver
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    The trick is to keep harmless stuff like this to yourself. I knew it would be fixed the first time someone uploaded a video with it.
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  • AzraelKrieg
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    #SaveNinglenel
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  • ssewallb14_ESO
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    There should be dps dummies. At least let us keep him until they're implemented.
  • adlez
    adlez
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    @ZOS: Please add some DPS training dummys. It's really important to test build and would be an immense help for every DPS player.
    /sign
    #SaveNinglenel
  • Shazgob
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    It bothers me grievously that they are removing this. The ENTIRE end game right now is a huge dps race, with @Wrobel basically destroying the idea of classic tanking, literally all the challenge of Veteran Maw of Lorkhaj (up to 50% on twins) is a monstrous DPS race. With this change from how the old trials are to how the new trials are, Ninglanel is a utility that allows: People to test their dps, Raid leaders to have a way to parse a large amount of player's dps to see where they stand vs. their fellows, and lets you work on your rotation in peace. Having to form up a group to simply test out 1 micro change to a build and then hit bloodspawn or the adjudicator is ridiculous.

    Oh, all of the glaring bugs in this game are still here btw, like jump momentum, which was also broken upon Wrothgar's release, but they fixed it rather fast. Only to be broken again with TG, this time however it can't be fixed 'until after DB sometime' which imo is stupid, you can take the resources to remove one of the BEST utilities in the ENTIRE game, but you can't fix momentum....... Please ZOS, can you at least TRY to relate to the people who are throwing money and suggestions at you? Not everyone is an idiot, I've seen countless good ideas on this thread, but instead you keep breaking the game down into a jumbled mess. If you don't have the staff to make a good MMO, get rid of them and hire someone who can.
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  • ongentheow
    ongentheow
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    #SaveNinglenel
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  • clocksstoppe
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    No. Reason being is we want them to focus on player housing, which will (confirmed?) have combat dummies in them.

    They can still leave this guy in until that happens though. There is no excuse.
  • Azor_Ahaii
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    #SaveNigel
  • Khaos_Bane
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    Bump.

    I didn't know this even existed until now. SOMETHING needs to be in this game to test our DPS and we should NOT have to wait FOREVER. It's been far too long. We shouldn't have to wait until player housing, let us have something basic like this until a test dummy is implemented permanently. The entire community has been asking for it a VERY LONG TIME.
  • crystal_coppolab14_ESO
    So I didn't know about this NPC but now that I do, I would totally use it. I'm amazed that the devs are more concerned about removing this 1 random NPC that doesn't harm anything and can be useful to those who know about it, but still haven't fixed the severe lag that has affected so many since the launch of Orcinium and Hew's Bane (or Cyrodiil since practically the game released). I feel someone(s) need to reevaluate their priorities.
  • RinOkumara
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    #saveninglenel
  • Bofrari
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    Yes keep him if someone is that upset over some little spot in the game then they need to uninstall.
  • rokrdt05
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    #SaveNinglenel
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  • Chasm_
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    /signed
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  • Karraxx
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  • Flak
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    Was looking so long for something like this and now it's getting removed in 5 days? C'mon ZOS, leave this in game until you have something to replace it with.

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  • Knappskirata6240
    Please don't remove this feature or find a new way to keep it in the game
  • SienneYviete
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    #SaveNinglenel pls zos
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  • LK27
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    #SaveNinglenel

    /sign
  • IITHEOPII
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    TBH, there are testing areas in almost 90% of MMO's.

    Simple fix for a large headache.
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  • Nightingale123
    Save Ninglenel!!
  • ADarklore
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    Here is a possible reason ZOS is removing... Ninglenel is a QUEST NPC, players that are using him as a test dummy may be preventing other players from completing their quests. I don't know exactly how these quest NPCs work or how the coding works, and whether such things could interfere with another player's quest completion.
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  • Slayyer-AUS
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    #SaveNinglenel.

    I have no idea why this is removed I've spent so many hours practising my rotation on him and helping many other people with their stamina dk rotation. When I'm in a vet pledge and one of the pugs ask me how my dps is so high I friend them and bring them to him to practise. Every fight in veteran maw of lorkaj is a dps race and 90% of eso players do not have the dps to complete it, this is due to lacking the necessary tools to improve dps. Ninglenel is great to help the community please do not remove him or implement something else to replace him. @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom
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  • RinOkumara
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    /sign
  • TARAFRAKA
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    /signed
  • Dragn4ceSoldier
    #SaveNinglenel

    As a console-only player, build videos by Deltia and others in the ESO community have been a tremendously useful resource for me in trying out new characters and improving my abilities in-game. It sounds like the removal of this NPC hurts their ability to perform testing and ultimately hurts our ability to learn and grow our characters. I'm in full support of Deltia's petition to bring back Ninglenel as a stop-gap measure, until the "official" solution comes out.

    Thanks for reading!
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