Official Feedback Thread for Templars

Minno · March 2016

Zheg wrote: »

Soris wrote: »

Wow Eric in da House

My first reaction was to google for a fumigator.

Nightblade feedback gets acted upon while on PTS. Templar feedback (literally the SAME feedback given for over a year) will continue to be collected and evaluated after the patch goes live. If you aren't reading between the lines, that means DB.

And be prepared for another Templar Nerf.

SeptimusDova · March 2016

@maxjapank
Max TC has bad issues and will for sometime. It did not respond well to their attempts to fix. If I may ask are you using it for the Stun?

FENGRUSH · March 2016

At least you werent told to wait until dark Bhood for anyone to look at you.

SeptimusDova · March 2016

@Fengrush we see you almost everyday. Stamsorcs will get love. Unless you keep the ZOS company photo on the dartboard.

maxjapank · March 2016

SeptimusDova wrote: »

Max TC has bad issues and will for sometime. It did not respond well to their attempts to fix. If I may ask are you using it for the Stun?

Gap closer, stun, and interrupt. And I'm well aware of its issues. But I still won't take it off my bar because when it works, it's still the funniest skill in the world for me.

FENGRUSH · March 2016

Stam sorc OP next meta 2016

Zheg · March 2016

ThatGuyCameron wrote: »

Wrobel wrote: »

Thanks to everyone for totally losing your minds in this thread. Though this is our first response here, we’ve been begrudgingly reading this thread since it started and understand that this class is totally lackluster.

The Thieves Guild update hosts a number of Templar non-fixes, but we recognize there is still a massive lack of variety for anyone not spamming Dflare next patch. Overall, the Templar has a few high DPS abilities that we are happy with, but we feel there is still nothing for tanks or anyone seeking the role of a smart healer. We will continue to ignore feedback after Thieves Guild goes live, so don't get your hopes up.

#CrownStore

Translated from ZOS into English.

When frodo puts a leash on smeagle and he screams "it burns!" - that's the visual I get for the discussion it took at ZOS to draw the short straw and reply in here.

Kudos on the translation, made me smirk.

Neoauspex · March 2016

Wrobel wrote: »

The Thieves Guild update hosts a number of Templar buffs, but we recognize there are still some abilities that are under performing. Overall, the Templar has a lot of powerful abilities that we are happy with, but we feel there is still room for improvement.

@Wrobel: thank you for monitoring our feedback. I agree that there are some powerful Templar abilities, but do you consider them powerful relative to alternatives? If you built a character that had access to every skill in the game, would you choose any Templar abilities? Which ones?

SeptimusDova · March 2016

That was an awesome translation. Max I would like for TC to get fixed as well. Haven't used it since it took me off of a keep wall right into Meth's lap. I tried in Invasion after that and then EC after that. Our skill selection would be awesome ... If they worked...

Zheg Smeagle is a very, very fitting reference !!!

Ffastyl · March 2016

At this point it may be more efficient to recode Toppling/Explosive Charge from scratch rather than continue to edit the ability.

ThatGuyCameron · March 2016

Zheg wrote: »

ThatGuyCameron wrote: »

Wrobel wrote: »

Thanks to everyone for totally losing your minds in this thread. Though this is our first response here, we’ve been begrudgingly reading this thread since it started and understand that this class is totally lackluster.

The Thieves Guild update hosts a number of Templar non-fixes, but we recognize there is still a massive lack of variety for anyone not spamming Dflare next patch. Overall, the Templar has a few high DPS abilities that we are happy with, but we feel there is still nothing for tanks or anyone seeking the role of a smart healer. We will continue to ignore feedback after Thieves Guild goes live, so don't get your hopes up.

#CrownStore

Translated from ZOS into English.

When frodo puts a leash on smeagle and he screams "it burns!" - that's the visual I get for the discussion it took at ZOS to draw the short straw and reply in here.

Kudos on the translation, made me smirk.

Joy_Division · March 2016

ThatGuyCameron wrote: »

Thanks to everyone for totally losing your minds in this thread. Though this is our first response here, we’ve been begrudgingly reading this thread since it started and understand that this class is totally lackluster.

The Thieves Guild update hosts a number of Templar non-fixes, but we recognize there is still a massive lack of variety for anyone not spamming Dflare next patch. Overall, the Templar has a few high DPS abilities that we are happy with, but we feel there is still nothing for tanks or anyone seeking the role of a smart healer. We will continue to ignore feedback after Thieves Guild goes live, so don't get your hopes up.

#CrownStore

Translated from ZOS into English.

Sotha_Sil · March 2016

Wrobel wrote: »

Overall, the Templar has a lot of powerful abilities that we are happy with, but we feel there is still room for improvement.

SeptimusDova · March 2016

room in the house for more nerfs. They will improve the Templar until we are done... for.

Ffastyl · March 2016

I... /sigh. I might have still considered myself in the disgruntled camp, but after Sotha_Sil's post... I just can't sympathize with the venom.

AfkNinja · March 2016

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Stam sorc OP next meta 2016

Storc and Stamplar riding off into the sunset together. DB 2016

SeptimusDova · March 2016

AfkNinja ....Never to be seen again !

templesus · March 2016

Wrobel wrote: »

Thanks to everyone for all of the passionate posts in this thread. Though this is our first response here, we’ve been reading this thread since it started and understand your opinions on the current state of the Templar.

The Thieves Guild update hosts a number of Templar buffs, but we recognize there are still some abilities that are under performing. Overall, the Templar has a lot of powerful abilities that we are happy with, but we feel there is still room for improvement. We will continue to evaluate and gather feedback after Thieves Guild goes live.

tf? you wait this long to respond and all we get IS YOU SAYING WE ARE F***ING TOSSED ON THE BACKBURNER? UNDERPERFORMING? SOME DONT EVEN WORK AT ALL

Husan · March 2016

I'm just happy we got a response at all. Don't get me wrong, I still wont subscribe until DB, but at least this response gives me a glimmer of hope for the future of ESO. Not exactly the "dev-player interaction" we were promised in february 2015, but it's a start. Be cheerful my templar brethen, we got an acknowledgement from the man responsible for our future!

darkstar2084 · March 2016

well its good to know, cheers wrobel for at least acknowledging the Templar playerbase concerns.If you give templar the sorc & DK treatment next patch I can live with that.

but for allot of people this is the end for them.

CP5 · March 2016

Husan wrote: »

I'm just happy we got a response at all. Don't get me wrong, I still wont subscribe until DB, but at least this response gives me a glimmer of hope for the future of ESO. Not exactly the "dev-player interaction" we were promised in february 2015, but it's a start. Be cheerful my templar brethen, we got an acknowledgement from the man responsible for our future!

To be fair that is saying something.

Rakkul · March 2016

So Wrobel, no mana from heaven.

AfkNinja · March 2016

This thread will live forever in the minds of Templar's. I truly hope we get a full review Dragon Knight style with DB. I will consider resubbing then.

Edit: Thank you @Wrobel for risking the flames to let us know you're /lurking.

dodgehopper_ESO · March 2016

Husan wrote: »

I'm just happy we got a response at all. Don't get me wrong, I still wont subscribe until DB, but at least this response gives me a glimmer of hope for the future of ESO. Not exactly the "dev-player interaction" we were promised in february 2015, but it's a start. Be cheerful my templar brethen, we got an acknowledgement from the man responsible for our future!

Yes. Lets keep the vitriol down guys. I think its fine to state, restate, reframe, contextualize, compare, contrast, debate, and quantify the issues, but we need to approach them reasonably.

TheM0rganism · March 2016

Wrobel wrote: »

Thanks to everyone for all of the passionate posts in this thread. Though this is our first response here, we’ve been reading this thread since it started and understand your opinions on the current state of the Templar.

The Thieves Guild update hosts a number of Templar buffs, but we recognize there are still some abilities that are under performing. Overall, the Templar has a lot of powerful abilities that we are happy with, but we feel there is still room for improvement. We will continue to evaluate and gather feedback after Thieves Guild goes live.

#2233

Minno · March 2016

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

Husan wrote: »

I'm just happy we got a response at all. Don't get me wrong, I still wont subscribe until DB, but at least this response gives me a glimmer of hope for the future of ESO. Not exactly the "dev-player interaction" we were promised in february 2015, but it's a start. Be cheerful my templar brethen, we got an acknowledgement from the man responsible for our future!

Yes. Lets keep the vitriol down guys. I think its fine to state, restate, reframe, contextualize, compare, contrast, debate, and quantify the issues, but we need to approach them reasonably.

Correct, let's be reasonable and patient, especially being apart of a generation that is used to instant responses and information.

But I probably wouldn't stay too long, especially with newer titles coming out.

TheM0rganism · March 2016

Minno wrote: »

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

Husan wrote: »

I'm just happy we got a response at all. Don't get me wrong, I still wont subscribe until DB, but at least this response gives me a glimmer of hope for the future of ESO. Not exactly the "dev-player interaction" we were promised in february 2015, but it's a start. Be cheerful my templar brethen, we got an acknowledgement from the man responsible for our future!

Yes. Lets keep the vitriol down guys. I think its fine to state, restate, reframe, contextualize, compare, contrast, debate, and quantify the issues, but we need to approach them reasonably.

Correct, let's be reasonable and patient, especially being apart of a generation that is used to instant responses and information.

But I probably wouldn't stay too long, especially with newer titles coming out.

That Dark Souls 3 tho...

One. More. Month.

AfkNinja · March 2016

TheM0rganism wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

Husan wrote: »

I'm just happy we got a response at all. Don't get me wrong, I still wont subscribe until DB, but at least this response gives me a glimmer of hope for the future of ESO. Not exactly the "dev-player interaction" we were promised in february 2015, but it's a start. Be cheerful my templar brethen, we got an acknowledgement from the man responsible for our future!

Yes. Lets keep the vitriol down guys. I think its fine to state, restate, reframe, contextualize, compare, contrast, debate, and quantify the issues, but we need to approach them reasonably.

Correct, let's be reasonable and patient, especially being apart of a generation that is used to instant responses and information.

But I probably wouldn't stay too long, especially with newer titles coming out.

That Dark Souls 3 tho...

One. More. Month.

Yassssss. Bloodborne was so freakin good now I want more souls!! MOAR SOULS!!!

AriBoh · March 2016

Minno wrote: »

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

Husan wrote: »

I'm just happy we got a response at all. Don't get me wrong, I still wont subscribe until DB, but at least this response gives me a glimmer of hope for the future of ESO. Not exactly the "dev-player interaction" we were promised in february 2015, but it's a start. Be cheerful my templar brethen, we got an acknowledgement from the man responsible for our future!

Yes. Lets keep the vitriol down guys. I think its fine to state, restate, reframe, contextualize, compare, contrast, debate, and quantify the issues, but we need to approach them reasonably.

Correct, let's be reasonable and patient, especially being apart of a generation that is used to instant responses and information.

But I probably wouldn't stay too long, especially with newer titles coming out.

Been reasonable and patient for near 2 years. Giving bug reports, feedback and suggestions. So no. Vitriol and bile are all I have left to give.

Alabyn · March 2016

Minno wrote: »

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

Husan wrote: »

I'm just happy we got a response at all. Don't get me wrong, I still wont subscribe until DB, but at least this response gives me a glimmer of hope for the future of ESO. Not exactly the "dev-player interaction" we were promised in february 2015, but it's a start. Be cheerful my templar brethen, we got an acknowledgement from the man responsible for our future!

Yes. Lets keep the vitriol down guys. I think its fine to state, restate, reframe, contextualize, compare, contrast, debate, and quantify the issues, but we need to approach them reasonably.

Correct, let's be reasonable and patient, especially being apart of a generation that is used to instant responses and information.

But I probably wouldn't stay too long, especially with newer titles coming out.

Not my generation.

Frankly I'm aghast at what I just read here. "Suck it, Wrobel", requesting the community managers be replaced with more attractive models because their messaging isn't appealing, and vulgarities thinly disguised with acronyms & asterisks? Wow. Not the ESO community at its best. I know it's tough to be dignified when you're upset, but sheesh.