Official Feedback Thread for Templars

Idinuse

Cadbury wrote: »

Razorback174 wrote: »

Enjoy your "templar house."

He's just a Templar, and he's on fire
Hotter than a fantasy, lonely like a highway
He's living in a world, and it's on fire
Feeling the catastrophe, but he knows he can fly away

Oh, he got both feet on the ground
And he's burning it down
Oh, he got his head in the clouds
And he's not backing down

This Templar is on fire
This Templar is on fire
He's walking on fire
This Templar is on fire

Does it proc Valkyn?

James-Wayne wrote: »

At 74 pages long can someone summarize what has actually happen since page 5?

This would be tremendously beneficial! With sections and a summarized consensus for each bug/fix/change Skill Tree / Skills and Passives.

I wish I had the patience.

darkstar2084

You want the truth? You can't handle the truth! This feedback thread is actually a containment thread, worked pretty well tbh Evil Zos planned it all along with the ninja nerfs ,BOL hit and non fix with toppling charge. All the outrage focused in one place until TG goes live.

jrgray93

A single class has a feedback thread longer than that of the other classes combined. In this thread, lots of Templars who have been active on the forums since release and clearly contribute a lot to this game are being ignored and are at the point of discussing what game to go to.

I haven't seen a fan base so mad at a game since the Mass Effect 3 debacle. It's as if the people balancing the game have never actually played it. This is absolutely embarrassing.

But hey, keep ignoring us and providing ineffective "solutions" to the obvious problems.

SeptimusDova

Sheppard would already have the Normandy in orbit above their headquarters!!!

jrgray93

Wait... blue... red... green...



It all makes sense now.

Commander Sheppard is responsible for Templar balancing problems.

Blech43

This is such a shame. I re-subbed at the time that the Orsinium DLC launched, and since then I've been having a blast. Personally, I think ZOS hit it out of the park with Orsinium -- it was a fantastic zone with good quest lines, level scaling (which I like), and a great mix of solo and group play.

Yet it seems now as though they're flushing all that renewed goodwill down the toilet, at least as far as the templar community is concerned.

About 20 pages back on this thread I said that I thought ZOS was being incredibly unprofessional by creating a Templar feedback thread and then ignoring the 2,000+ posts from the community who clearly have concerns about the direction the class is moving in.

Not to beat a dead horse, but purely from a business perspective, why would you intentionally alienate a sizable chunk of your paying customers by refusing to communicate with us?

At this point we understand you're going through with the Templar changes. But if you want to start repairing your relations with the Templar community, put a post in here. Acknowledge our concerns, and more importantly, explain your vision for the class.

SeptimusDova

You cannot repair the damage done to trust.
Trust is like virginity once lost it cannot be regained.

Minno

Joy_Division wrote: »

James-Wayne wrote: »

At 74 pages long can someone summarize what has actually happen since page 5?

Disappointment. Unfulfilled Expectations. Dashed Hopes. Yearning for better games. Lots of funny house GIFs.

Also bacon

SeptimusDova

and sammiches

AriBoh

jrgray93 wrote: »

Wait... blue... red... green...



It all makes sense now.

Commander Sheppard is responsible for Templar balancing problems.

Femshep wouldn't do that to me. Also dunno why you said green and blue. ME3 only has a red ending. ONLY RED.

hrothbern

BalticBlues wrote: »

ESO Templar 2014 - not the fastest, but robust and fit for all terrains


ESO Templar 2015 - redesign for better PvP balance


ESO Templar 2016 - redesign for best PvP balance


ZOS, you really think it will be fun driving PUGS through dungeons with the new car?
What happens in vet dungeons like Darkshade with the bosses toxic air?
25% less receivers for BOL? The blame will be on us drivers, not on the crippled car...

Sorry, I feel betrayed. The 2016 Templar is not anymore what was sold to us.
Therefore, ZOS, please offer all Templars a free class change. Enough is enough.

Now even Mr Bean can push Templars away !

https://youtu.be/rM_9WmSzsNE?t=47

ZOS_Wrobel

Thanks to everyone for all of the passionate posts in this thread. Though this is our first response here, we’ve been reading this thread since it started and understand your opinions on the current state of the Templar.

The Thieves Guild update hosts a number of Templar buffs, but we recognize there are still some abilities that are under performing. Overall, the Templar has a lot of powerful abilities that we are happy with, but we feel there is still room for improvement. We will continue to evaluate and gather feedback after Thieves Guild goes live.

James-Wayne

Only took 75 pages for confirmation but thank you for dropping in... We'll wait for the stamina changes come Dark Brotherhood then!

Everyone can go home now... oh wait you never left....

Zheg

Wrobel wrote: »

Thanks to everyone for all of the passionate posts in this thread. Though this is our first response here, we’ve been reading this thread since it started and understand your opinions on the current state of the Templar.

The Thieves Guild update hosts a number of Templar buffs, but we recognize there are still some abilities that are under performing. Overall, the Templar has a lot of powerful abilities that we are happy with, but we feel there is still room for improvement. We will continue to evaluate and gather feedback after Thieves Guild goes live.

This is something you could have said 5 patches ago and it would have been just as true. Templars have waited, and waited, and you haven't delivered. Now it sounds like we're waiting until DB, another 3+ months out - particularly stamplars.

I'm waiting more for CU at this point than I am for you to get the class figured out.

AriBoh

WTFFFFFFFFFFFFF!

SeptimusDova

James your brother John is looking for you. Something about el dorado or jake or something.

SeptimusDova

Mr.Wrobel that is an echo from last year. Just click on the thread in my signature.
With all due respect. This is your game; but this here on my desk is my wallet and it votes.

In advance and for future endeavors. If you could communicate with each class and layout a road map that would save some grief.

Several threads in the past about changes and feedback and improvements seem to have been missed.

In closing may you and your company fare well

Everyone else after the lights are out I will CU on the flip side

nagarjunna

Wrobel wrote: »

Thanks to everyone for all of the passionate posts in this thread. Though this is our first response here, we’ve been reading this thread since it started and understand your opinions on the current state of the Templar.

The Thieves Guild update hosts a number of Templar buffs, but we recognize there are still some abilities that are under performing. Overall, the Templar has a lot of powerful abilities that we are happy with, but we feel there is still room for improvement. We will continue to evaluate and gather feedback after Thieves Guild goes live.

Too little, too late...

Erock25

We got Wrobel posting here and Gina posting in another issue thread at the same time. I wonder if there was a meeting held that said the forums were getting downright nasty and it was time to pretend like they actually care about our feedback and issues.

SeptimusDova

very astute Erock25 !! Just wait until it goes live. Then those who normally do not come to the forums will invade like the Visigoths sacking Rome!!

MY PREDICTION:

Upon the great land, the settled empire, a great and tumultuous horde shall descend. Seeking the one. The One who dared to force them into a style they deemed unworthy. There will be a gnawing and gnashing of teeth, an outpouring of rage such as has never been before seen by those in the land of Zos. Kittens will be crushed asunder mailed boots. Stakes and Pyres shall be assembled. And the skies will darken, the ground will tremble and the masses at Zos will huddle behind the Templar's Straw house.

AfkNinja

Only took 2232 posts to get some acknowledgement. Lets throw up another 2000 to see what his ideas are for Dark Brotherhood and the overall class identity....

Edit: At least we know they saw this....LOL

Soris

Wow Eric in da House

Minno

Zheg wrote: »

Wrobel wrote: »

Thanks to everyone for all of the passionate posts in this thread. Though this is our first response here, we’ve been reading this thread since it started and understand your opinions on the current state of the Templar.

The Thieves Guild update hosts a number of Templar buffs, but we recognize there are still some abilities that are under performing. Overall, the Templar has a lot of powerful abilities that we are happy with, but we feel there is still room for improvement. We will continue to evaluate and gather feedback after Thieves Guild goes live.

This is something you could have said 5 patches ago and it would have been just as true. Templars have waited, and waited, and you haven't delivered. Now it sounds like we're waiting until DB, another 3+ months out - particularly stamplars.

We are waiting more for CU at this point than I am for you to get the class figured out.

Minor change in bold.

Zheg

Soris wrote: »

Wow Eric in da House

My first reaction was to google for a fumigator.

Nightblade feedback gets acted upon while on PTS. Templar feedback (literally the SAME feedback given for over a year) will continue to be collected and evaluated after the patch goes live. If you aren't reading between the lines, that means DB.

Minno

Erock25 wrote: »

We got Wrobel posting here and Gina posting in another issue thread at the same time. I wonder if there was a meeting held that said the forums were getting downright nasty and it was time to pretend like they actually care about our feedback and issues.

Just got out of a phone conference too. Weird Thursday.

AfkNinja

Zheg wrote: »

This is something you could have said 5 patches ago and it would have been just as true. Templars have waited, and waited, and you haven't delivered. Now it sounds like we're waiting until DB, another 3+ months out - particularly stamplars.

I'm waiting more for CU at this point than I am for you to get the class figured out.

Even longer for the suckers on console. It's okay though, Templar's are used to waiting multiple months for any sign of small buffs and changes. /sigh

SeptimusDova

that means never kinda like the Don't call us we'll call you.

or the Check is in the mail
or the dog ate my homework
\or it was an accident.

SeptimusDova

25 more pages quick I need shards we got the bosses aggro lets not lose it!

maxjapank

Wrobel wrote: »

Thanks to everyone for all of the passionate posts in this thread. Though this is our first response here, we’ve been reading this thread since it started and understand your opinions on the current state of the Templar.

The Thieves Guild update hosts a number of Templar buffs, but we recognize there are still some abilities that are under performing. Overall, the Templar has a lot of powerful abilities that we are happy with, but we feel there is still room for improvement. We will continue to evaluate and gather feedback after Thieves Guild goes live.

Thanks @Wrobel . I've had no doubt that you've been keeping tabs on this thread, even with negative vibe. But it does mean a lot to acknowledge the feedback. So thanks again.

I'm less pessimistic than some of my Templar brothers and sisters. I should do well this upcoming patch, and I've even become stronger in some ways. But...Toppling Charge is killing me. Literally. And it just isn't fun.

I love the skill, but when it fails to connect and I lose that kill. Whether I'm going in for a bomb or keeping a enemy player from getting away...and it doesn't do anything, it isn't fun. And the worst is when I've just used a potion, and The Toppling Charge bug that locks you out of your skills happen. And now I am running around rocks and trees for 30 seconds, unable to heal, unable to attack...well..it really bites. It's the worst feeling in the world to know you could have won, could have helped your group win, but you can't due to a skill bug.

I have big hopes that this skill is at the top of the line for the next DLC. Thanks.

ThatGuyCameron

Wrobel wrote: »

Thanks to everyone for totally losing your minds in this thread. Though this is our first response here, we’ve been begrudgingly reading this thread since it started and understand that this class is totally lackluster.

The Thieves Guild update hosts a number of Templar non-fixes, but we recognize there is still a massive lack of variety for anyone not spamming Dflare next patch. Overall, the Templar has a few high DPS abilities that we are happy with, but we feel there is still nothing for tanks or anyone seeking the role of a smart healer. We will continue to ignore feedback after Thieves Guild goes live, so don't get your hopes up.

#CrownStore

Translated from ZOS into English.