Spoiler Alert!

Overland is supposed to be easy. It's there to get beginners hooked and satisfy a large casual playerbase. It may be easy for you, but do try to understand that there are many, MANY players who struggle in overland content. That content is not designed for you. Play it if you want, but understand that it is not there to challenge you. That's what endgame is for.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/362596/pve-combat-is-too-easy-please-add-a-vet-mode-for-overland-content

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/488280/overland-and-story-boring


https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/476326/seriously-this-game-is-too-easy-and-the-overworld-needs-to-be-buffed-heavily

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/454957/onto-the-discussion-for-difficulty-again

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/476144/discussion-questing-and-overland-pve-content-in-general-needs-a-serious-change-my-two-cents

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/494993/animation-canceling-easy-overlandcontent


you are not original with this.


my 2 cents, i have seen people die to pve mobs before, the game is hard for some. personally, i avoid the dlc dungeons because they are are to much effort for very little rewards. i love going ham on easy mobs in pve, part of the power fantasy and makes it feel like all the effort i but into my "build" was worth it.

i like hard content.

then play the hard content, there are at lest 10 dlc vet dungeons and 4 vet trial for you.

ThePhantomThorn wrote: »

redspecter23 wrote: »

Spoiler Alert!

Overland is supposed to be easy. It's there to get beginners hooked and satisfy a large casual playerbase. It may be easy for you, but do try to understand that there are many, MANY players who struggle in overland content. That content is not designed for you. Play it if you want, but understand that it is not there to challenge you. That's what endgame is for.

so its fine for a level 10 to be farming mobs in craglorn?
it has no feel of progression if anyone can go anywhere

Yep, it's absolutely fine. Also, I want a video. Better not be any cp or set bonuses either, because most real level 10's don't have that.

*too easy

MartiniDaniels wrote: »

Yep, overland is unbearably easy and unrewarding, I may complete quests only with beer in 1 hand and some sport cast in background, otherwise I felt like I will immediately fall asleep from boredom. So far I found that best way to explore ESO lore is to read UESP articles from mobile, writing and stories are often interesting, but gameplay is unbearable.

Spoiler alert: I do quests on my no-CP PVP characters with 0 allocated CPs and without food. Everything still dies in seconds and if I play on my PVE CP810 dps, mobs are just swiped as I go, I don't need to weave or anything I just spam gap closer+snare removal+aoe between mob groups and they all die or reset. Ah, and interface is turned off too.

And yet I still see new players struggling with overland every day. It's almost like they haven't been playing as long as you have and don't have the experience with the game and systems.

Just because you're awesome, never assume everyone is as awesome as you are.

Stap!!!

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

ThePhantomThorn wrote: »

redspecter23 wrote: »

Spoiler Alert!

Overland is supposed to be easy. It's there to get beginners hooked and satisfy a large casual playerbase. It may be easy for you, but do try to understand that there are many, MANY players who struggle in overland content. That content is not designed for you. Play it if you want, but understand that it is not there to challenge you. That's what endgame is for.

so its fine for a level 10 to be farming mobs in craglorn?
it has no feel of progression if anyone can go anywhere

You should be farming those glowing portals in Craglorn.

I would like to see video from the op of a level 10 character with no cp allocated and no sets go and destroy those portals in Craglorn. I need to learn something new today.

ThePhantomThorn wrote: »

redspecter23 wrote: »

MartiniDaniels wrote: »

Yep, overland is unbearably easy and unrewarding, I may complete quests only with beer in 1 hand and some sport cast in background, otherwise I felt like I will immediately fall asleep from boredom. So far I found that best way to explore ESO lore is to read UESP articles from mobile, writing and stories are often interesting, but gameplay is unbearable.

Spoiler alert: I do quests on my no-CP PVP characters with 0 allocated CPs and without food. Everything still dies in seconds and if I play on my PVE CP810 dps, mobs are just swiped as I go, I don't need to weave or anything I just spam gap closer+snare removal+aoe between mob groups and they all die or reset. Ah, and interface is turned off too.

And yet I still see new players struggling with overland every day. It's almost like they haven't been playing as long as you have and don't have the experience with the game and systems.

Just because you're awesome, never assume everyone is as awesome as you are.

ok heres my idea cuz i dont think i made it clear:

each zone has a min level eg
bleakrock isle = 0
stonefalls = 5
deshaan = 15 ect

then the overland would scale to the player from that point.

That's what it was before one tamriel and it was generally considered a bad thing.

ThePhantomThorn wrote: »

haelene wrote: »

MartiniDaniels wrote: »

Yep, overland is unbearably easy and unrewarding, I may complete quests only with beer in 1 hand and some sport cast in background, otherwise I felt like I will immediately fall asleep from boredom. So far I found that best way to explore ESO lore is to read UESP articles from mobile, writing and stories are often interesting, but gameplay is unbearable.

Spoiler alert: I do quests on my no-CP PVP characters with 0 allocated CPs and without food. Everything still dies in seconds and if I play on my PVE CP810 dps, mobs are just swiped as I go, I don't need to weave or anything I just spam gap closer+snare removal+aoe between mob groups and they all die or reset. Ah, and interface is turned off too.

Video or it didn't happen. Also I expect no sets on those no-cp pvp characters either, as, again, a real new player doesn't have access to that.

I mean, I would get rid of the ultimate buff too (which is the knowledge you have gained about how the game works and why), but that's impossible, so we'll just have to take what we can get.

(Also CP810's should make overland feel like butter. That's good. It's not supposed to be difficult.)

would you like me to remove gear? because new players might not have that.
what about investing attributes?
or skills?
i assume im not alowed any food either.... dispite the level up rewards literaly giving you ok gear, food and advice.

and the point is level 10s. dosnt matter if theyre 810 or 0.

It's those skills and AOEs you're spamming that are the problem, not your gear or food or CPs.

ThePhantomThorn wrote: »

haelene wrote: »

MartiniDaniels wrote: »

Yep, overland is unbearably easy and unrewarding, I may complete quests only with beer in 1 hand and some sport cast in background, otherwise I felt like I will immediately fall asleep from boredom. So far I found that best way to explore ESO lore is to read UESP articles from mobile, writing and stories are often interesting, but gameplay is unbearable.

Spoiler alert: I do quests on my no-CP PVP characters with 0 allocated CPs and without food. Everything still dies in seconds and if I play on my PVE CP810 dps, mobs are just swiped as I go, I don't need to weave or anything I just spam gap closer+snare removal+aoe between mob groups and they all die or reset. Ah, and interface is turned off too.

Video or it didn't happen. Also I expect no sets on those no-cp pvp characters either, as, again, a real new player doesn't have access to that.

I mean, I would get rid of the ultimate buff too (which is the knowledge you have gained about how the game works and why), but that's impossible, so we'll just have to take what we can get.

(Also CP810's should make overland feel like butter. That's good. It's not supposed to be difficult.)

would you like me to remove gear? because new players might not have that.
what about investing attributes?
or skills?
i assume im not alowed any food either.... dispite the level up rewards literaly giving you ok gear, food and advice.

and the point is level 10s. dosnt matter if theyre 810 or 0.

Yep because new players don't have gear, and yep, you ought to be using the first skill of each line and only that. No morph's either. As far as attributes - you can have the first 10 they give you, but you need to allocate it randomly (because most new players don't know they should only put it in stam or mag.)

Why does it matter?

Because that's what overland is for. People who don't have the access you do. It's. Not. For. Experienced. Players.

New players don't have gear, don't know to eat food, don't know how to properly invest their attributes, and only have access to a few skills. They certainly don't have CP backing them.

If you think that a level 10 with nothing is the same as a level 10 with 810 CP's allocated is the same - well I don't know what to tell you.

And I want to get on the Leaderboard for Vet Trials with a Julianos/Magnus MagSorc with poor coordination who can't manage weaving and sometimes forgets to keep his DOTs up.

However, I realize that not everything in the game is aimed at me, and that's a good thing.

Stupid formatting. Ignore this post.

ThePhantomThorn wrote: »

so its fine for a level 10 to be farming mobs in craglorn?

Part of that is an artifact of how One Tamriel works. It's probably 'easier' for a Lv10 than for a similarly-geared/skilled Lv50 - the lv10 has more of a "scaling" boost, which fades as you level (since, presumably, you're assigning skill points, gearing better, etc)

ThePhantomThorn wrote: »

i like hard content.

its why i like progging trials. if its too easy it feels like grinding. and overland...

As with all these threads, I have a serious question: Can you please tell me a modern mainstream MMO, where the overland is challenging for skilled players, let alone "progression"/raid players?