Starting from passives as they in dire need of being updated. While passives that got recently redesigned still need adjustments:
A. Burning Light:
1. Burning Light procrate in PvP post update and from 2019 stats:

so while old rng-based was approximately 1 proc per 5.5 aedric skill hits at least with my melee playstyle, new one is 1 proc per 8.9 aedric hits which is large procrate reduction and thus huge damage loss.
2. As shown on pts which can easily emit pvp perfoamnce on live - 1sec stack is simply not enough to safely store BL stacks:

Cinbri wrote: »

Burning Light 1sec duration of stacks in not enough.
pts with 200 ping and even using 4 consecutive aedric skills on cooldown is unable to proc passive. On live server it will drastically reduce possibility to proc BL.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEI4B5kqgxg
Increase duration of BL to atleast 5sec.

3. As already showed on pts - total procrate of BL is reduced twice for aoe scenario where there is at least 2 enemies:
Old BL:

New BL:

4. Due to inability to proc BL twice per 1.0s anymore it lost it burst nature.
Recap: In PvP - passive lost it burst potential, it damage output in aoe scenarios decreased twice, it total procrate in pvp and thus total damage decreased for ~40%.
Its redesign completely ignored pvp aspect and thus no wonder that result is passive's drastical reduction of perfomance. I believe for all those losses of its offensive capability passive should get full reliability and thus each tick of aedric skill to account and not lost for BL proc. For that I once again suggest to increase duration of BL stacks to at least 10sec, similarly to how mechanics based on light attacks based - 10sec duration of each stack, or add skill memory similarly like Bound Weapons and Grim Focus have with increased duration of saving stacks timer even further.

B. Light Weaver:
As expected its hp threshold too punishing and in pvp passive strength vs effect usefullness are not equal. Due to it being limited in pvp to literally only 2 skills - Rushed Ceremony and Cleansing Ritual. Ritual is per 2sec so it like 1ult per 1sec but for that you need to keep being low hp. On magplar it doesnt work effectively coz Ceremony instantly bring you out of 50% threshold and you keep low hp it means you at such heavy pressure that couple more ults wont change tide of combat; while for stampalrs only wasy to proc is Ritual and in theory with SNB Ult on hot-based spec it would work far better but problem is that Ritual is static and as result stamplar during hard pressure will kite and literally leave Ritual in next couple seconds before next tick of Weaver even proc.
Here is one fight from IC event as example: Recap: passive still dont grant its effect that could change tide of combat consistently and only time when it reliably proc is during super hard pressure when you unable to survive and get benefit of passive, where only way to get desirable effect is group play with lot of crosshealing.
So I suggest to either increase strength of effect of passive or improve its reliability.
Making passive to proc on all heals would be overpowered - so i suggest to increase hp threshold to at least 60% which would be enough to make passive strong enough or swap generic buff into major heroism buff keeping same threshold that will synnergize with magplars burst heal as main survivability tool and stamplar possibility to proc it not that often by Ritual.

C. Mending:
As I already mentioned on pts:

Cinbri wrote: »

Doubtfully it will be addressed this update but I would like to point another pain point of survivability of Templars. Unlike other reaons this is easy to solve tho and this reason is - similarly to old Spear Wall passive,Mending passive is outdated.
Here is comparison:

current Mending on left with pre-1.6 effect in comparison to necro passive.
Before 1.6 patch this passive was similar to waht necro passive is now - rng-based boost of healing. However after patch it was changed into non-rng constant effect, but main problem that very visible nowdays is that it stoped interacting with all healings, but only with Restoing Light skills. Maybe it was done to balance it out with old Focused Healing that was on level of constant healing boost that transformed into constant Major Mending, which was overpowered.
In result total healing, which btw is class main defense got serious decrease in its effectiveness, and equally affected both stamplars and magplars as amount of used sources of healing outside of jsut 1 skill tree is vast (for example main stampalr heal is locating in Alliance War line; while lot of healing skill morphs of magplar are located in Aedric Spear and Dawn Wrath lines).
Necromancers got old effect of Mending in their passive but updated version - Difference from old Mending and NDE is mechanic that it require skill of skilltree to be slotted but in return effect is stronger (15%<20%) In case of Mending - healing increase % not needed coz passive effect is, unlike familair passive, is not rng-based and thus more reliable. Thise would allow build diversity when you can play with your main/backbar skill bars and serve role of teaching new players to slot skills on their bars, so it strictly positive limitation; but also to proc healing-based passive it require to slot skill from exact this healing-focused skill line to keep it in control.
And for that reason Mending should be updated into similar manner - it should start require Restoring Light skill to be slotted on its bar, and affect all healings.
So it would look simply as that:

Simple update of passive.

Passive need update to current reailities of class to benefit from far more heals that jsut Restoring Light skills. Magplar has Sweeps heal, Purifying Light aoe heal, Living Dark heal, Radiant Glory heal. While stamplar literally boost only 1 skill by this passive - Cleansing Ritual, while all of the rest heals are non-Restoring Light.
Overhaul i suggest will have straight positive effect on offense of templars in pvp as it will no longer promote only archetype of tempalr to use 1 bar for straight offense and 1 for defense. With such adjust it will require offensive tempalr to slot 1 RL skill on offensive bar isntead of offensive skill but as result will boost heal that would allow to stay offensive bit safier, that is hard when main class-defining dps spammable is 1.0s channel.
According to data I recieved from necro - their passive alone(i.e. old improved version of Mending) in total healing done scenario of intense outnumbered battles literally doubling total crit chance of healing skills. Without adjustment Mending old overhaul turned straight rudiculous nerf instead of actual improvement.

D. Prism/Illuminate:
Some of templar passives strength and effects are equal to dragonknight, apparently coz back intime those 2 classes shared vision of "stand-your-ground" classes. But templar passives were ignored for years, for example like it was with Spear Wall vs Iron Skin where passive provided nearly similar effect but one passive was obviosuly providing stronger one mathematically.
Spear Wall was addressed but so we can move to next problematic passives. I wil just leave this screenshot here:

I think problem is pretty obvious - addressed in 1.6.5patch (5 years ago!) dk passive is absolutely equall to combination of 2 unaddressed templar passives and given that cumulative strength of passive trees of dka are equal to templar since release - this is disbalance at its best, far bigger than Spear Wall was. It literally, in comparison to similar class, having 1 less passive in Dawn Wrath tree similar to how templar has 1 less passive in Restoring Light tree coz Master Ritualist is jsut facepalm. Obviously templar passives wont be combine in same manner to avoid homogenization so both passives should recieve small additional effects.

E. Master Ritualist:
So many words were said about its uselessness, so I wont write wall of text again apart from mention again that it work only retroactive on ressurect and have no benefit in fight and then numbers how passive interract with game:
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F. Nova:
Most problematic ult that has big potential in pvp. Back in time Solar Disturbance was snaring opponents for 65%, which obvious was placing this utl as pvp-oriented as you dont need any snare for adds and it doesnt work on Bosses in PvE. Snare was removed (actually it not because even tho ult doesnt say anymore that it snare targets inside - it still apply 65% snare which is bug from its old iteration) and changed for allowing debuff to stay on opponents for few seconds, apparently so if enemy in pvp leave its 8m area - it will be still partially effected by skill. But this doesnt became as improvement for pvp because damage of ult is just as important as additional effects. Imagine Permafrost without its aoe damage - noone bother about such ult. Instead it became must-have morph for PvE because there damage doesnt matter much especially given that it healer role to keep group alive and thus use this ult and healers dont have stats invested into damage anyway; but 6 more seconds of major maim is like making ultiamte18ult cheaper and allow longer safetime with shorter cooldown.
It also negatively affected other morph - Solar Prison, in both pvp and pve. In PvE - even tho tanks use Harmony trait, they still wont get benefit of synenrgy coz major maim is very strong debuff taht grant more usefullness to ult in compare of jsut couple thousnds more damage once per millenia. In PvP - noone slot previously pvp-oreinted Solar Disturbance because static ults have no palce in pvp unless it fit into pvp like short duration-high burst ult like necro Colossus, or rudiculously strong effect like Negate. Instead people started to use unhealthy mechanic - slot Solar Prison, par it with harmony trait and use it as ball-group burst ult like if they roa through bunch of mobs; at same time ult has even less viability for solo players because you cant activate your own synenrgy.
So I suggest to properly address Solar Disturbance morph as pvp-oriented and change it similarly to Sleet Storm - into PBAoE. Damage and duration of both ults are standartized, showing that in theory it should be equall ults but due to different mechanics Sleet Storm is good while Nova is choice of noone in pvp.
1. Nova radius is jsut 8meters aoe, apparently because it can be casted on range. So as pbaoe its radius should be adjusted to standarts of new ults - Sleet Storm and Swarming Scion, i.e. to 10m up from 8m.
2. Its should loose its synnergy capability which can be partially regained through other means.
3. Reduce its cost to 200 ult similarly to Sleet Storm.
5. Its special effect can be either - reintroduced snare, or reintroduce stun mechanic of synenrgy by either make ult stun upon casting or stun targets after 3rd hit.
6. Most important is major maim debuff. Obviously it will be weaker than major protection because lot of range opponents, while Sleet Storm doesnt bother about such stuff. And here Nova can imitate how Blinding Light could work nowdays if it would be self-buff: how would being covered in aura of blinding light could affect enemy offense?! Simply - instead of buff it would apply debuff on targets that are attacking caster. So Nova instead of apply debuff on everyone whom it hits would apply major maim debuff on targets who dealt any source of damage to caster. Such mechanic is not new and succesfully work for wardens. Literally reversed major protection. And its visual effect could imitate this cool visual effect of oppressive light from Merdias dung:

Visual effect on caster is also already available - literally jsut take particle efect of sun's fracture and make so templar is vocered in this holy light, similar to how dk covered in fire with Flame of Oblivion or wrden coeverd in ice with Sleet Storm:

So templar literally turn power of the sun to aid him. Templar is in dire need of such ult, especially after cahnge to Radial Sweep that i will talk below - expensive large aoe with group utility offensively-defensive ult. Not having it is pigeonholding class into going vampirism and use Scion as only available such type of expensive ults.
Another idea: jsut turn it into how npc version, Sacred Nova works - burst aoe explosion of sun either coming from same sun fracture like now or like npc one - from caster body Nova is literally sun explosion after all. Literally mix of necro Colossus and nb Soul Tether.

G. Radial Sweep:
1. While ult was getting cast-time it was ignored that ult is not performing similarly to other cast-time ult - its utility is fully reliable on its damage and thus not using it every 70+ult means large waste of its potential and you simply cant time it burst i.e. how other comparable ults are used (Incap, Dawnbreaker), while other cast-time ults are 120+ cost ults with high burst capability, and Incap can be Scaled to get strong effect taht redeem damage loss of not using ult by cooldown of 70+ult.
2. Another problem is while adding cast-time it was also ignored that ult is damn bugged for years and can miss targets in its range:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BKZYSxC7RA
How many years more i have to link this video?! As result you not jsut have lower burst cpability but also rng chance that it will actually hit target...
One of solutions: With idea of adjusted Nova above Sweep ult visual effcet and mechanic will be too blended. Because Sweep also making glwoing aura around caster with dot. So how about change this "burst" into actuall burst that would be more direct damage rather than dd+dot that messing cp respecification. Old idea of turning Sweep into Divine Leap that became iconic skill of religious npc wariors:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wql81mo8hk
Or change its visual effect for templar Charge so it would look more "holyish". For Toppling it would be - Jump into heaven and fall down, nailing your opponent with aedric spear. It litrally actually fit name "toppling". While explosive Charge would have this aoe visual effect.
Another soultion: is allowing ult to scale to 120+ult and get new effect similarly to how Incap working, so for not spam it by cooldown you wil lactually have benefit.

H. Solar Barrage:
Due to AoE tests I asking again to consider idea of turning Barrage into delayed aoe burst skill similar to Subterranean Assault.
So, when you cast skill - it apply 3sec timer on you and yellow essence floating around you and magnetic bomb on caster as visual cue for enemy to see that you udenr effect of skill. 3 sec later it explode, using same explsion effect of magnetic bomb (take it away from Eclipse, it doesnt make sence there for skill of "darkness"), instead of its current effect that is literally lazy, recolored to yellow, visual effect of Impulse. Ofc auxiliary effect should be equally strong to comparable skills due to it being melee skill, for example "while skill is charging - it heals you every 1sec for X"
Only new addition is change the way how essence during skill charge is acting - instead of spinning around caster, representing aura of energy floating around caster, it should come fom sides into caster body, representing that you storing divine energy to release it in a seconds. So it will act similarly to Sap Essence:

But instead of singular it would be continious 3sec flow.

I. Radiant Aura:
Skill adjustments itself over years were good by itself but in complex analyze it overshadowed by other changes - like Drain and destro staff changes. Destro staff nowdays is not punishemnt for mana build but pure benefit due to it direct boost to dps capability by passives and light/heavy attacks that scale of max stat of mana spec, also Drain provide much more utility with its major debuff and became same nocost skill that also force enemy to waste 2 purge slots. And while Aura aoe debuff can be interesting - in reality manadrain dont stack and thus it doesnt matter on how many targets it applied.
Taking into account problem that templar dont have access to major sorcery and for some mysterious reasons Entropy got nerfhamemred into oblivion, making it as pain point once again I suggest ot readjust Radiant Aura again to fix calss addiction of Entropy but make new RA defensive so if templar would have choice to either use defensive class-based sorcery skill or offensive mage guild one:
Turn it into self-buff with actual 3700 cost that apply major sorcery on you for 20sec along with minor regen buffs. While its auxiliar power is either - A. similarly to how wardens Leeching Vines operate - apply minor manasteal for 10sec on enemies who dealt damage to caster. B. similarly to light attack mechanics - apply minor manasteal on targets whom you dealt damage with light atack. Both options will be equally strong.
There is 4 possible visual effects depends on auxiliar effect:
A. If manadrain attached to light attacks - 1. Templarish effect of glowing yellow hands that was once used for sorc minor mending Ward morph but then was completely removed and reintroduced as efect of major mending for Daedric Trikery set. However such "sunish" effect is belong to warriors of sun!

2. Another templarish effect - it could be taken from primate artorius - making your weapon to glow and emit sun rays:

3. Simplier effect with less particles but noticable is make it similar to Momentum - essence floating around your weapon, but for aura it would be yellow essence similar from solar barrage, with yellow coat on your weapon

B. If manadrain attached to recieveing damage - 3. keep it as now - tiny yellow glow on affected target. Or add transparent halo effect that would look like nimbus. Such effect was used for psijic Mend Spirit but was removed for some reason.

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Koubo wrote: »

@Cinbri : i like how you just state many issue for Templars. Good job

Recap: passive still dont grant its effect that could change tide of combat consistently and only time when it reliably proc is during super hard pressure when you unable to survive and get benefit of passive, where only way to get desirable effect is group play with lot of crosshealing.
So I suggest to either increase strength of effect of passive or improve its reliability.
Making passive to proc on all heals would be overpowered - so i suggest to increase hp threshold to at least 60% which would be enough to make passive strong enough or swap generic buff into major heroism buff keeping same threshold that will synnergize with magplars burst heal as main survivability tool and stamplar possibility to proc it not that often by Ritual.

This change is interresting, but Stamplar use RoR over ER most of the time in PvE condition, which mean it wont proc anyway.
What i'm concerned about is Stamina Templar survivability for both PvE and PvP. It was bad in PvP before RoR changes, it's even worse now. Stamina templar have 0 heal in their class's Kit. That's just a shame... I do swap RoR for ER when i'm in vMA cause i felt the loss of the healing there and because we're alone, we cant rely on team mates. I really hope things will change for us as it's kinda terrible right now. Stamina templar's Kit is too poor in my opinion. They perform good in PvE, so that's not a problem. AoE is a bit weak but enough to play in hard content. My hightest concern is health sustain mostly. We can't rely only on Vigor even if it's easy access now. I wont bother linking all the passives or active of other class.

On the other hand, MagPlar have Magicka sustain issue and rely on Jab&Burning light to be on par Damage wise. If we go Range (which should be easy for a MagDD) they can't parse above 80K in perfect condition (while MagBlade parse above 94K with range abilities). I think MagPlar either need a Class Spammable that mak them able to compet as a Range DD, or something have to be tweak to make the other Spammable more effective in order to make them viable with them and not rely on 100% on Jab for damage. I love both Templars but i can bearly play them in hight end PvEbecause they are mele and/or Stamina and not really desired which make me sad as they are my first & favorite character so far.

Ye, we have to accept that RoR is pve only and Extended is pvp mainly or pve healbots, with little no exceptions.
Regarding stamplar healing problem - Mending passive literally dont work for stam spec, so it like stamplar playing without 2 class passives - mending and master ritualist. Thats obviously brings only negative consequences and one of reasons why Mending should be adjusted to affect all healing done effects similarly to how it worked this way vefore it was overhauled(de facto nerfed) and than gaved away to necro class.