No way to know without the most vital piece of the equation: How many exploited and to what degree.

Yes, once they finish their analytic investigation they need to make a bold and sweeping move in order regain the faith of their players. Otherwise this game is toast.

I wouldnt mind even a complete rollback as long they fix things. But yeah, this wont happen, no it wont whatever youre writing in this thread they wont do it.

I like your second idea of a complete rollback if Zenimax cannot somehow delete all the legendary items and gold acquired from the duplication exploit.

Another idea that would be technically easy for Zenimax to do is just make a vendor where all legendary mats are free so that the advantage exploiting guilds and their members enjoy will be nullified.

Um, how many people would leave the game. People value their time highly and rarely forgive. They would lost a mass amount of people, aka money.

raykay wrote: »

Rollback wont Happen. Still 95% of the Player Base dont know nothing about this and i bet most of them dont care. They are not going to do a rollback because 0,1% of player Base wishes so

Exactly this. Now imagine all those people logging on to completely lost time. Would be devastating.

You guys are delusional if you think they are going to do a week+ rollback.

Damia wrote: »

rollback or quit, or suffer with your low lvl char and gear while they dupers laugh at you killing you 1000's of times in pvp.

there is no choice but rollback after the issues are fixed or the game is dead anyway and you can move on to pay another company that does not let dupers ruin the game.

this is a no choice rollback,,any other action will just kill the game for honest people, an eventually they will all quit anyway.

We're talking a rollback to day 1 of Early Access?
I think that would kill the game for honest people -- anyone who made any legitimate progress with their character would have it nullified.

A full investigation and a permanent banning of abusers is what counts.

I wouldn't mind a rollback, as long as I don't have to create my characters again. I like my names and how they look, but haven't played the actual game much because of all of the problems.

No matter how bad we perceive the client to be on our end, they DO have metrics and logging, so there will be no rollback, but I'd imagine they will investigate players based on a set of rules, such as acquisition of X item at Y location over the course of Z minutes. There is no legitimate way to come into possession of hundreds and thousands of pieces of legendary crafting mats in such a short period of time. Furthermore, since it would be impossible to verify how much wealth the player accumulated via duping (the money can be laundered, of course) the only way to handle it fairly is to ban the account.

I say yes but the only problem is there are more ways to duplicate that they are not even addressing yet. This dupe was reported in beta and they did nothing. I have heard reports from Guild Mates that the Mail system is exploitable as well. Plus if you search the internet you will see the other ways to dupe. So if they rollback now and don't fix the problems then how many times will they have to roll back. They need to take the game off line and fix it all. Final Fantasy A Realm Reborn was ruined at launch and it took them 2 years to fix it.

babylon wrote: »

linda912 wrote: »

I wouldn't mind a rollback, as long as I don't have to create my characters again. I like my names and how they look, but haven't played the actual game much because of all of the problems.

Well the rest of us have, and we've played legitimately and will not be happy with a rollback because of a bunch of dirty players.

I want to see ZOS properly investigate all wealthy players and follow the item/money trail on them so they catch exactly who did this crap. Then punish them severely with bans/item and money deletion.

they should be able to roll back those who did it / ban account

If DICE can reset an individuals stats for battlefield for cheating/hacking, ZOS should (emphasis on should) be able to roll back individuals as well.

If they were to do a rollback, they'd have to rollback since the 1st day of Early Start and they're obviously not going to do that. The vast majority of players had no idea about this so they should just ban all the people that used this exploit and prevent them from ever being ingame again (block their name/CC/etc).

A rollback at this point is only going to annoy the vast majority of the players that don't come to the forums and will only affect the people that learned about the Bank exploit within the last 24 hours and it'll not do anything against the people that have been using this since release.

ArenaNet hunted down and banned everyone involved in the exploit in GW2 and NW did a few hours rollback during the AH exploit, so either a rollback or banhammer has precedence. Now, question is, how much manpower does ZOS actually have? A easier way would be to just rollback as it doesn't need that many GMs/Devs going around logs but it'd annoy a lot of people off AND it would not send a message to the exploiters at all. Or they can invest their time into hunting down all of the people that exploited and show by example that exploiting will not be tolerated and do a mass banning of people, even the people that duped a single item.

I can only hope they will do SOMETHING. They can't just let this stand.