Dragonnord wrote: »Beautiful dragons busts!
I just don't like the back part. It's Khajiit style and it doesn't fit my house architecture and environment.
I wish they had realeased the dragons busts alone, so you could select your own base, pedestal or "background" where to place them.
I understand achi furnishings, and vet busts, and having the basic 'complete this trial for this trial-themed furnishing' would be ok (as we had with Cloudrest) but Vet HM? I just think that if we weighed the number of Vet HM endgame players who are really serious about housing, and the number of housing enthusiasts who run Vet HMs, it kinda makes these a bit off the mark.
B0SSzombie wrote: »That's not to say there isn't overlap in those groups, but it's not very common. I still think it would make more sense for them to be tied to beating the Bosses after extinguishing their Braziers on ANY difficulty. Kind of like if there were Achievement Furnishings for beating Asylum Sanctorium or Cloudrest on their Hardest Configurations, but not on their Hardest Difficulties (nAS+2 or nCR+3 to be more clear). You're going to have to extinguish those Braziers anyway when you're going for the Mount, so why have a reward for a halfway point?
Kittytravel wrote: »B0SSzombie wrote: »That's not to say there isn't overlap in those groups, but it's not very common. I still think it would make more sense for them to be tied to beating the Bosses after extinguishing their Braziers on ANY difficulty. Kind of like if there were Achievement Furnishings for beating Asylum Sanctorium or Cloudrest on their Hardest Configurations, but not on their Hardest Difficulties (nAS+2 or nCR+3 to be more clear). You're going to have to extinguish those Braziers anyway when you're going for the Mount, so why have a reward for a halfway point?
This pretty much sums it up. I think the specialty mounts that are locked behind the hardest VetHM content are enough of a reward and something that is much more showcaseable in the real world. These statues should probably be lowered to the "Hardest configuration in any mode" level. Housing items aren't often showcased widely to the playerbase (you don't swing by BOSSzombie and go "Wow I saw you had the furnishing for beating ____Trial on the HARDEST mode." or "Wow I saw you had the emperor throne!" because housing is usually shared within a specific community of interest.
In the game world though if you see someone walking around with the nifty red die or the "Former Emperor/Empress" title you might be more inclined to ask about how they got it as a lot more of the player base will see those objects. Same with mounts in this regard.
B0SSzombie wrote: »
It's just a shame that, even if they considered changing the requirements, it's probably too late in the PTS testing to do it. There's just over 3 weeks until Elsweyr launches, and I doubt the devs will consider prioritizing something like this.
DovahkiinHeart wrote: »B0SSzombie wrote: »
It's just a shame that, even if they considered changing the requirements, it's probably too late in the PTS testing to do it. There's just over 3 weeks until Elsweyr launches, and I doubt the devs will consider prioritizing something like this.
Do you think the devs made this intentional so that the 2% of players who manage to get these furnishings will suddenly want to get into housing now and spend crowns to buy/decorate their houses?
If that's the case, well played.
Well played indeed.
Hi. We probably haven't met before. I am the person who loves doing Veteran Hard Mode content AND furnishing my house. Honestly, I think there should be more rewards like this. Titels are kind of meh since you can use only one and there are so many already. We need more Furnishing/Mounts/Adroments/Hairstyles/Tattoos/Outfit Styles that says "I have been there and done that". (The number of skins is pretty nice but unfortunately most of them are ugly and like titles, you can only wear one at the time.) I heard Elsweyr is also introducing first special mount that is an achievement and not Crown Store/Crown Crate exclusive.B0SSzombie wrote: »I understand achi furnishings, and vet busts, and having the basic 'complete this trial for this trial-themed furnishing' would be ok (as we had with Cloudrest) but Vet HM? I just think that if we weighed the number of Vet HM endgame players who are really serious about housing, and the number of housing enthusiasts who run Vet HMs, it kinda makes these a bit off the mark.
There is a furnishing for simply completing Sunspire on any difficulty as well.
These are just extra, although I'm still a little perplexed as to how niche they are.
It's like you said, I can't think of any players that I've met that typically run Vet HM content and are interested in Housing.
Hi. We probably haven't met before. I am the person who loves doing Veteran Hard Mode content AND furnishing my house. Honestly, I think there should be more rewards like this. Titels are kind of meh since you can use only one and there are so many already. We need more Furnishing/Mounts/Adroments/Hairstyles/Tattoos/Outfit Styles that says "I have been there and done that". (The number of skins is pretty nice but unfortunately most of them are ugly and like titles, you can only wear one at the time.) I heard Elsweyr is also introducing first special mount that is an achievement and not Crown Store/Crown Crate exclusive.B0SSzombie wrote: »I understand achi furnishings, and vet busts, and having the basic 'complete this trial for this trial-themed furnishing' would be ok (as we had with Cloudrest) but Vet HM? I just think that if we weighed the number of Vet HM endgame players who are really serious about housing, and the number of housing enthusiasts who run Vet HMs, it kinda makes these a bit off the mark.
There is a furnishing for simply completing Sunspire on any difficulty as well.
These are just extra, although I'm still a little perplexed as to how niche they are.
It's like you said, I can't think of any players that I've met that typically run Vet HM content and are interested in Housing.
Edit 2: Can we have furnishing that requires tons of undaunted plunders and weekly HM reward items to craft?
You can show them... with skins and titles Nobody will convincingly make the case that a furnishing in a random house (maybe not even in your primary house if your primary is a crafting place and the fancy decorative one is just a secondary house, so people may not be able to travel in there) allows you to show off your achievement to people better than the actual titles and skins (and soon mount) that are already awarded for HMs.Done all trials HM.
Done all Dungeons HM.
Do them regulary.
Loves housing!
But I cant show my friends that I've beat all HM content...
Only Veteran =(
Give more special furniture behind HM kills! please?
@B0SSzombie If it's not too much trouble, would you mind sharing a picture of the back of the circular backdrop? Also whether the back of the pedestal clips past the back of the backdrop? (I am curious if it can be sunk into a floor to be used as a circular platform, planter, or pool)
prof-dracko wrote: »I think it's neat. There should be more incentive for HM, especially in some of the older vanilla dungeons. I'm saying this as someone who is crap at Vet content, having more things locked behind HM would encourage me to improve. Maybe this could set a president where normal gets the wall mount, vet gets the bronze bust and HM gets a full body statue of the flagship boss. Or maybe just a furnishing exclusive to the dungeon? Elden Hollow could give those crystal geodes, CoH could be the Ebony blade ect.
Sometimes just having something for you is enough. Personally they'd go straight into a trophy room. And it's not like no-one can see them. You can visit other people's homes you know.
They give away the skin for vet. So 'you can visit other people's homes you know' isn't really an argument as to why these statues should be vet HM only (as opposed to normal or vet), when skins are far more visible to literally anyone who comes across you, while for furniture you have to actively set people's permissions to visit, they need to actively travel to your house, and only if it's in your primary.prof-dracko wrote: »I think it's neat. There should be more incentive for HM, especially in some of the older vanilla dungeons. I'm saying this as someone who is crap at Vet content, having more things locked behind HM would encourage me to improve. Maybe this could set a president where normal gets the wall mount, vet gets the bronze bust and HM gets a full body statue of the flagship boss. Or maybe just a furnishing exclusive to the dungeon? Elden Hollow could give those crystal geodes, CoH could be the Ebony blade ect.
Sometimes just having something for you is enough. Personally they'd go straight into a trophy room. And it's not like no-one can see them. You can visit other people's homes you know.
B0SSzombie wrote: »Can you visit someone else's home if they're not a Friend or in your Guild?
Kittytravel wrote: »B0SSzombie wrote: »Can you visit someone else's home if they're not a Friend or in your Guild?
The answer here is... yes and no?
Yes because you can use addons to visit someones house provided you have the below.
1. Their @Name
2. The house you want to visit.
3. They have it open to the public.
But again; this is something that only housing enthusiasts normally have/care about. In all five of my guilds (One casual, two social, one trade, one house design) only the house design guild regularly visits other peoples houses with said addon. Everyone else just sticks to primary homes and barely visits those as is ("guild halls" being an exception).
Agree. Housing is mostly a solo activity. With some effort I can find another 3 players among my friends to complete dungeons. But trial needs 11 more players and I just don't have as much friends playing ESO. Given that achievement furnishings are bound I don't see a way to get those and as a result the new house Jode's Embrace is useless to me so I'm not going to buy it.I'm not fond of any housing item achievement being locked behind a Vet HM.
You should just have to create the dungeon on normal to be able to get the achievement to get the furnishing pieces. The VetHM players already get a shiny new Mount and Title to go with the completion.
Housing is suppose to be something that is fun and relating and something that everyone in the game can achieve no matter their skill level.
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They give away the skin for vet. So 'you can visit other people's homes you know' isn't really an argument as to why these statues should be vet HM only (as opposed to normal or vet), when skins are far more visible to literally anyone who comes across you, while for furniture you have to actively set people's permissions to visit, they need to actively travel to your house, and only if it's in your primary.
And if 'sometimes having something for you is enough' then there is no need to deny other people the opportunity to get the item too. After all, your statue in your private home doesn't have anything to do with whether someone else also has that statue in their private room. In fact, you wouldn't even know about it.
And if you're looking for incentives to run vet HM content, well... you know... if titles, skins and mounts, increased chances of dropping motifs and higher quality loot doesn't convince people to run vet HMs instead of normal, then two statues won't either. A lack of furniture isn't the reason why people who don't do vet HMs don't do vet HMs, so adding them won't work as an incentive at all.
And the 'incentives, yay' argument also doesn't work, because with this logic we could also say that 'we need more incentives to encourage people to buy houses, so we'll have a really powerful gold trial set that spawns in your storage chest if you have at least 10 fully furnished homes'... It would make no sense right? A set that is just as good or better than other sets (as these statues are just as good or better than other furnishings) that is obtainable by a totally unrelated kind of gameplay (furniture from vetHMs and this hypothetical gold gear from having many houses) that the people who are most interested in them are the least likely to get them.
I'm not even that into the Elsweyr aesthetic on them, so it's not that much of a loss to me personally, I just can't see any logical reason for this new direction as most arguments for it don't make sense at all.