ChildOfLight wrote: »'Broken' and 'exploit' are such strong words - and very derogatory to use against those who understand the mechanics and put the effort and thought into a strong build.
Don't you mean people are really fast at learning what synergizes well and figuring how to use its strengths?
This is a big problem I have with mmo communities nowadays....
To me, broken was stuff like the TBS problem where you could have more munduses than you should be allowed. And exploiting is using that to gain a completely unintended (by the devs ) result.
A good build and playing it well is not ' exploiting'
Hard to see the real problems when terms like these are bandied around so much and so inappropriately.
I am really surprised someone really thinks copy-pasting youtubers' builds is a great demonstration of hard guessworking and theorycrafting.
Truth is the vast majority of my encounters are StamNBs and every stamNB in cyrodill is running the same KODI's MAGNIFICENT PVP BUILD FOR OWNING YOUR OPPONENTS AND FEEL GREAT: EternalHunt , MasterBow, Asylum2H.
When every encounter is just the same, when everyone is able to make full use and derive benefit from[EXPLOIT] a clear flaw in the balance system and design, that really kills my interest and enjoy in playing pvp.
And that's too bad since it feels some part of all my PVE playing loses meaning too.
What’s broken is how there still issues of being rooted and stunned at the same time and not being able to break free. Or just long delay before you can break free.
@NightbladeMechanics A+ for use of cute Pikachu gifs
As for me, it's a learn to play issue, but any stam class that uses dizzying swing/wrecking blow is the bane of my existence. It's the combination of the effect with the sound the skill makes, and I feel like a rag doll being tossed around, waiting for my death
NightbladeMechanics wrote: »
As for dizzying swing, practice dueling them a lot! You'll get used to seeing the animation, blocking it, or learn to sidestep behind them to clip the animation and cancel the attack. You can similarly kite back every so slowly out of its range to cancel it.
Or you'll learn your limits a bit better and start eating them deliberately when you know you are high enough health that you won't die.
Dizzying is awful in a 1v1 fight against players who are used to fighting against it, but it takes time to get used to its range and aoe cone and can be very intimidating and punishing in the meantime.
I’ve been PVPing on my Stam Sorc for a while now and I’m suprised how few I see anymore. I’m not the best by any means, but I can say I pack up more people than I get beaten by. Overload while traveling with magelight up and streak to leave a quick stun to reassert myself sends 8/10 gankers back into cloak to find someone else to prey on.
I’ve been PVPing on my Stam Sorc for a while now and I’m suprised how few I see anymore. I’m not the best by any means, but I can say I pack up more people than I get beaten by. Overload while traveling with magelight up and streak to leave a quick stun to reassert myself sends 8/10 gankers back into cloak to find someone else to prey on.
Defensive rune is all you need for that :-) I'd often run overload just to be my 'travelling bar' or 'chokepoint bar' - with rapids/defensive rune for travelling, and caltrops/trap for chokepoints.
ChildOfLight wrote: »'Broken' and 'exploit' are such strong words - and very derogatory to use against those who understand the mechanics and put the effort and thought into a strong build.
Don't you mean people are really fast at learning what synergizes well and figuring how to use its strengths?
This is a big problem I have with mmo communities nowadays....
To me, broken was stuff like the TBS problem where you could have more munduses than you should be allowed. And exploiting is using that to gain a completely unintended (by the devs ) result.
A good build and playing it well is not ' exploiting'
Hard to see the real problems when terms like these are bandied around so much and so inappropriately.
I am really surprised someone really thinks copy-pasting youtubers' builds is a great demonstration of hard guessworking and theorycrafting.
Truth is the vast majority of my encounters are StamNBs and every stamNB in cyrodill is running the same KODI's MAGNIFICENT PVP BUILD FOR OWNING YOUR OPPONENTS AND FEEL GREAT: EternalHunt , MasterBow, Asylum2H.
When every encounter is just the same, when everyone is able to make full use and derive benefit from[EXPLOIT] a clear flaw in the balance system and design, that really kills my interest and enjoy in playing pvp.
And that's too bad since it feels some part of all my PVE playing loses meaning too.
Waffennacht wrote: »Most common ult on death recap in BGs: Ferocious Leap
Yeah. They’re not doing too bad. They hurt and there are a lot of them. Was in a 2 -4 man PUG last week and there was a Zerg that would have 3 jump on you and some crit rush spam. Just nothing you could do
Ragnarock41 wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »Most common ult on death recap in BGs: Ferocious Leap
Yeah. They’re not doing too bad. They hurt and there are a lot of them. Was in a 2 -4 man PUG last week and there was a Zerg that would have 3 jump on you and some crit rush spam. Just nothing you could do
I think you are confused good sir, ferocious leap is the mDK morph, take flight is the stamina one.
That being said stamina Dk leaps are just as dangerous as the magicka one.
In the end all you have to do is press your block button to counter it.
Ragnarock41 wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »Most common ult on death recap in BGs: Ferocious Leap
Yeah. They’re not doing too bad. They hurt and there are a lot of them. Was in a 2 -4 man PUG last week and there was a Zerg that would have 3 jump on you and some crit rush spam. Just nothing you could do
I think you are confused good sir, ferocious leap is the mDK morph, take flight is the stamina one.
That being said stamina Dk leaps are just as dangerous as the magicka one.
In the end all you have to do is press your block button to counter it.
What is your reasoning? I've used take flight with success on Mag. And Freocious gives shields but mag has access to good sized shield where stam doesn't. Care to elaborate?
FloppyTouch wrote: »Stam NB the burst is real easy to pick up and master and the reason everyone went to heavy armor. We all needed to protect ourselves from that burst the meta switch bc of it.