Some of these changes might seem drastic but rather than rush to complain, I suggest everyone first take some time to play test and provide detailed feedback.

Judging by previous balance updates, it's likely there will be further adjustments based on your feedback.

No token system or changes to the painful RNG system?

Too many nerfs and no added storage or armor and weapon stands to housing. Whats the point of housing if it's useless!

Zakor wrote: »

Nice change to the orbs btw. Finally non templar heals are able to restore stam also!

ummmm ... the dps loss having to chase orbs around to get the synergy... no thanks ... shards please

Just read the entire patch notes. Here are my feelings.

Overall I absolutely love the fact that we are trying to bring resource management back into the game. I like a lot of changes to skills I am seeing here like Orb and Shards. I am happy with any change that is going to make the game more difficult by making spells cost more, resources regenerate less, and ect.

One thing that I think would be really good for this game though, is to make all buffs last at least 10 minutes. Even if you have to increase the poo out of the cost of each buff, make them last 10 minutes. Also make shields last for 10 minutes or until they are beaten through. This will make the game feel much less maintenance which honestly is the one thing about this combat system I feel is a big negative. As a result, we can also increase the cost of our action skills because we no longer would have to keep re-applying our buffs every 6 seconds....which honestly eso, is ridiculous.

The only thing I do not agree with so far is the mindset of "closing the gap" between lowbies and veterans. In PVE, low level characters are already much much more powerful than 0cp level 50s. CP is supposed to make you much more powerful than those without any or less than you. Re-balancing the champ trees for greater diversity is awesome, just dont do it just to close gaps.

PVP is a huge headache for balancing. I think it is finally time we accept that in MMO's PVP honestly needs to be balanced separately from PVE. We need a system that is more like, yes I hate to say it, World of Warcraft. There is a reason that game is still number 1 and has amazing PVP. They did it right. We should "borrow" some of their ideas such as PVP Gear you get when participating in PVP. When you enter PVP zones, all of your skills automatically RE-BALANCE to PVP so us PvE'ers can finally have buffs that are worth a darn and not feel so god awful maintenancy.

As for my conclusion, good work team. I am super excited to see what comes of this and how we evolve over time. I would realllllly like to see buffs last longer and PVP to be balanced separately.

Juhasow wrote: »

MLRPZ wrote: »

*except sorcs*

If all of the rest of us cry like the sorcs did last patch can you remove the nerf to Repentance? @ZOS_GinaBruno

Maybe even give it a buff because why not?

I am actually very impressed. There are only a couple more things they need to do and this game will be fantastic.

Rest in peace Stam DK. I'm gonna miss the sustain you had. 3k igneous shields is like light attack from an opponent, so remove major mending at least.

Magicka classes is on strongest on live atm, for pvp and for pve, most specificly becasue of inferno staff passive increaseing all singletarget dmg done by a whopping 8% and being able to stack and spam shields like theres no tomorrow.

So you nerf healing cp, but do nothing to bastion cp? Yea that makes perfect sense.....

Honestly looking forward to these changes, thank you

With all these nerfs i really think zos should host 2 live streams. 1 with completing vet maw of lorkhaj within 40 minutes and 1 with doing it with no deaths.

Any idea on when we can do this? still waiting for the PTS to open..

I just cancelled my Morrowind preorder. I am going to wait for news from the PTS to figure out whether I want to continue playing this game after Morrowind drops.

I am not trying to be dramatic or hyperbolic, I am *very* unhappy with the changes indicated in these Patch Notes. I haven't played this game for nearly two years to be forced to focus almost exclusively on resource management, nor do I like the Care Bear approach of decreasing the gap between newer players and established endgame players.

I noted a lack of information on adjusting the endgame content to the new, post-nerf meta. These changes make it harder for tanks to tank, for healers to heal and maintain resources, and for DPS to deal damage. In other words, the crucial mechanics of vet trials. Sure, there are guilds out there that will handle these changes in stride, but they are inarguably the best players in the game. What about the rest of us? I mean, on XB1 we can't even run some of the trials (like vMoL) due to them being broken. Assuming they don't get fixed until after these changes are implemented, well...the difficulty of the content will be significantly higher relative to the characters.

I am only one person, perhaps my opinion doesn't matter. Perhaps my one preorder doesn't matter. Never fear, I am going to reach out to lots of other players with these concerns and let them make their own determination as to whether this game will be fun for them after you have reduced their coveted builds into smoking ruins.

Good flippin' job, Zeni.