PTS Patch Notes v2.7.0 (Homestead)

Foxic · January 2017

fritzOSU03 wrote: »

TotallyNotVos wrote: »

Targets 1 – 6: 100% damage taken with all secondary effects applied.
Targets 7 – 24: 75% damage taken with no secondary effects applied (formerly 50% damage taken).
Targets 25 – 60: 50% damage taken with no secondary effects applied (formerly 25% damage taken).

The bracketed numbers are the current aoe caps. It's a significant buff

Ok, thanks for pointing that out. But with that being said, how much will this help when fighting The Warrior, The Mage, The Serpent, Rakkhat, or any other trial/dungeon boss? The first six targets might get some additional secondary effects. I would also say that clearing trash might be a little quicker if everything is very neatly stacked but that's about as far as it goes.

The aoe cap change will give you more dps on bosses with more than 6 adds. Which admittedly isn't alot of them. But this is where the new destro passive comes in.

I'll use sorc as an examplewith the standard lightning frontbar/inferno backbar because it's what I main. And a single target parse from live (with no maelstrom staff) to prove my point http://i.imgur.com/eNVkonj.png

From that picture you can see ~46% of my damage is from aoe skills. And 9% of my damage comes from my execute. I expect the aoe damage to break 50% if scalding rune replaces curse.

If the destro passive applies it's bonus based on your current bar. Regardless of me applying my ground dots on my inferno bar, they will increase their damage by 8%( which is massive) when I swap to my frontbar where I spend a majority of the fight. As well my execute is on my inferno bar, so during execute my mages wrath will be increased by 8% damage.

Obviously this needs to be tested. But if the passive is applied to your active bar. It's huge.

Elsonso · January 2017

bellatrixed wrote: »

24 seems like an EXTREMELY low cap. It's actually the lowest cap I've ever seen in a game with housing. Most allow at least 50, but many even go up to 75 or 100.

Please consider increasing this! Homestead's biggest draw will be the social/RP crowd. 24 is very very small for a RP or social gathering, especially if we're also expected to use these for guild housing.

While I agree, given the performance of ESO in other areas, anything more than 25 will likely result in a PowerPoint experience. ESO is not designed for a large number of people to be in the same area at the same time.

starlizard70ub17_ESO · January 2017

Nevindri wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Moglijuana wrote: »

Anyone know the max amount of players allowed inside the largest houses?

24 players in a Manor, plus yourself.

Can you guys please consider letting us test larger populations then 24? That is very low compared to what other MMOs are able to pull off, I know RP events are hosted with much larger populations. Even 50 would seem much more reasonable than 24.

It's kind of pointless to waste gold (or crowns) on a manor if the limit is 24 players, might as well get a large or even a medium house and host smaller parties.

Moglijuana · January 2017

lordrichter wrote: »

bellatrixed wrote: »

24 seems like an EXTREMELY low cap. It's actually the lowest cap I've ever seen in a game with housing. Most allow at least 50, but many even go up to 75 or 100.

Please consider increasing this! Homestead's biggest draw will be the social/RP crowd. 24 is very very small for a RP or social gathering, especially if we're also expected to use these for guild housing.

While I agree, given the performance of ESO in other areas, anything more than 25 will likely result in a PowerPoint experience. ESO is not designed for a large number of people to be in the same area at the same time.

Yet they designed Cyrodiil lol.

Hellsbunnies · January 2017

It's patching!

roigseguib16_ESO · January 2017

Yay!!

SantieClaws · January 2017

This one sees it!

Though possibly it may come too late this night for Template Khajiit to have any time in Test Tamriel.

We shall see though yes.

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

bottleofsyrup · January 2017

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Moglijuana wrote: »

Anyone know the max amount of players allowed inside the largest houses?

24 players in a Manor, plus yourself.

Would this become 48 if you have ESO+?

Lord_Eomer · January 2017

Strife increase in cost is directly murdering Magicka NB PVE.

This change needs to revert!

Foxic · January 2017

Lord_Dexter wrote: »

Strife increase in cost is directly murdering Magicka NB PVE.

This change needs to revert!

That's so over dramatic. It was a totally unnecessary Nerf but most magblade don't even use strife foe pve. Force pulse already does more damage

silvereyes · January 2017

That feeling when you pay for fast Internet access and download the PTS patch before all your friends...

and the server is still down.

emily3989 · January 2017

Calm down everyone. At least they fixed those capital S's in possessives that were destroying the game.

daniel.13b16_ESO · January 2017

I don't mind the nerf ot Jesus Beam, maybe some of the PvPers will now stop whining. However, why remove the stun from Blazing Spear? Javelin is useless and the gap closer is still broken.

sirinsidiator · January 2017

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Moglijuana wrote: »

Anyone know the max amount of players allowed inside the largest houses?

24 players in a Manor, plus yourself.

I am also a bit surprised that it's that small a number. I was hoping to use a manor as a guild hall where every online guild member can fit in. Pretty much makes that impossible.

sylviermoone · January 2017

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

silvereyes wrote: »

So ... where are the quality of life improvements for guild management? Guild bank tabs? More permissions options? Fixing kiosk bid spying?

Very disappointed.

Kiosk bid spying shouldn't be happening as you can only see the current bid if you have the Hire Guild Traders permission.

You are so cute.

Bid spying can and does happen, even if the bid amounts are hidden in the history because as the bids are placed, gold is leaving your bank. This means anyone with a pen, paper and calculator (or an addon specifically written for this purpose, and I'm sure there are a few) can calculate the amount of your bid throughout the week to the gold piece. To do so, all you need to know is what the guild bank is when kiosk flips. Starting gold plus deposits (including sales tax deposits) less gold withdraws and shown balance equals pending bid.

@ZOS_PhilipDraven , @ZOS_RichLambert , I'm REALLY hoping the fixes that were discussed at PAX West weren't just lip service, and you've got something planned for this update. In the last few weeks, guild leaders have been social banned at an ALARMING rate, as well. Please, for the love of Talos, we need some tools!!! As much as I personally hate the lack of transparency, even a permission based view of the bank balance would be a HUGE improvement. Your guild leaders are BEGGING YOU.

Lord_Eomer · January 2017

TotallyNotVos wrote: »

Lord_Dexter wrote: »

Strife increase in cost is directly murdering Magicka NB PVE.

This change needs to revert!

That's so over dramatic. It was a totally unnecessary Nerf but most magblade don't even use strife foe pve. Force pulse already does more damage

It is a part of rotation across weapon swaps!

I used it with crippling grasp / dual wield and th rotate to destro wall/twisting path/merciless reolve/sap essence and then again switch back.

Sylas_Orin · January 2017

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Strife: Increased the cost of this ability and its morphs by approximately 38%.

[irony]Oh, sure! Nerf the worst class PvE-wise out there even more. Listen to the whining PvP community and make the class completely unplayable in PvE compared to the other classes.

Good call. Good job. Thumbs up and cookies for you.[/irony]

Krainor1974 · January 2017

Hellsbunnies wrote: »

Krainor1974 wrote: »

Kodrac wrote: »

Witar wrote: »

Hey guys. How much crowns will the manors costs? Gold pricing is kind of high, maybe it will be easier to get those for crowns.

This is why we can't have nice things.

Crowns are real money and profits for em so it will be high.

Well it's only understandable. I don't know what gold sells for, illegally for cash but I'd imagine almost four million gold would be worth a pretty penny. I'll actually go have a look.

I didn't mean buying gold I meant for the price of crowns to buy the houses from crown store
Lol

Dymence · January 2017

TheHsN wrote: »

Dymence wrote: »

Twohothardware wrote: »

Dymence wrote: »

Pretty satisfied with overall changes, looks like a pretty interesting balance patch. Don't know why people are throwing such a fuss. Most of the posters seem to have no clue whatsoever...

Bit sad for the nightblades though, but oh well.

And what class do you main?

Sorc

Are u sure u play teso...can it be another game something

You're one of the people who don't know what they're talking about.

EnOeZ · January 2017

Moglijuana wrote: »

EnOeZ wrote: »

Mmm... that Black Rose nerf

What nerf. Now it's more useful for mag & stam gets a bit more utility.

Nah... it's a nerf to those who used it.
I have close to no use at all of the magicka pool with my setup(s).

Surgee · January 2017

I appreciate that we get new motifs but what's the point if we can't morph the look of items that dropped from bosses or mobs? Hardly anyone wears crafted sets because they just aren't good enough.

EnOeZ · January 2017

Moglijuana wrote: »

KrishakPanettier wrote: »

Blackrose change from Stamina to Magicka. Why would you switch such fundamental settings. Make a new set rather than change an existing. People acquire certain sets because of their current listed specifications. Blackrose is used on stamina builds because of the 2-5 abilities as-currently listed. Blackrose is intended for Heavy Armor and works off the constitution skill in Heavy Armor. I would think more Stamina builds use it.

I use it on my MDK. I like the change.

I understand you like the change.
However to those who have farmed it hours (at IC launch for example) for a specific setup, it's pretty unfair, a kind of breach of contract.

AshTal · January 2017

Thought this was meant to balance out stamina and magic again. From what I can see they have done very little to address the weakness of magic in PvP.

Can see pets are a bit more powerful however still suspect they will be ignored in PvP they might not die as easy but they still have terrible damage and I am betting stupid AI.

Also not sure what the point of subbing is - why be ESO plus when there isn't any new DLC content?

VerboseQuips · January 2017

I must say I am quite anxious. I usually don't complaint about game mechanics, but my main is a Magicka Templar, and the total ammount of time I invested on him exceeds 50 days. I don't envision him as a pure healer. I really hope that the coming changes don't confine him in a role of pure healer that wouldn't suit my vision of the character. That would ruin (maybe not totally, but significantly) a lot of effort.

Wait and see, I guess. I am awaiting anxiously for the PTS-informed feedback. I hope that if the feedback is negative, ZOS will listen, and make sure that diversity is still allowed within each class.

ChRiS_the_GaMeR · January 2017

@ZOS_GinaBruno , @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

I already wrote this in german but since there is only Kai you'll never now if your Feedback gets noticed. My english is pretty bad but I'll try my best ....

I could give Feedback to all the changes like everyone else does but you already got and will get enough of that. So instead I thought it would be usefull to give Feedback about a different theme (and core problem).

The PTS is mostly going live one month before the Update is reaching the liveserver but 90% of the time you are only reacting with justifications instead of actual changes. So no wonder if most people thinking you are ignoring their feedback.

You don't need to justify your decisions its your game. But you shouldn't be surprised if you get the same complaints every patch ... such big unexpected changes just need to be communicated differently and more confident.

Its no wonder people are getting confused and angry if almost everybody is begging for PvP, Class and proc set balance, but you are giving them unexpected (not saying unimportant or unneeded) PvE damage and Froststave

changes ..

If you pick something that needs to be changed and you are working on it for long time, I assume you are confident/sure about the way you decided to change it. So normally you would have some reasons for your decisions like "Why does XY even needed to be changed?" or "Why did you choose this way of changing it?"

Getting things (reasons) like that into the patch notes or communicate them to us, might not make your lifes easier (you'll never get everyone happy) but at least it would make you more believable.

As I said my english

so sorry for every mistake. I hope you got what I wanted to say.

Xvorg · January 2017

ChRiS_the_GaMeR wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno , @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

I already wrote this in german but since there is only Kai you'll never now if your Feedback gets noticed. My english is pretty bad but I'll try my best ....

I could give Feedback to all the changes like everyone else does but you already got and will get enough of that. So instead I thought it would be usefull to give Feedback about a different theme (and core problem).

The PTS is mostly going live one month before the Update is reaching the liveserver but 90% of the time you are only reacting with justifications instead of actual changes. So no wonder if most people thinking you are ignoring their feedback.

You don't need to justify your decisions its your game. But you shouldn't be surprised if you get the same complaints every patch ... such big unexpected changes just need to be communicated differently and more confident.

Its no wonder people are getting confused and angry if almost everybody is begging for PvP, Class and proc set balance, but you are giving them unexpected (not saying unimportant or unneeded) PvE damage and Froststave changes ..

If you pick something that needs to be changed and you are working on it for long time, I assume you are confident/sure about the way you decided to change it. So normally you would have some reasons for your decisions like "Why does XY even needed to be changed?" or "Why did you choose this way of changing it?"

Getting things (reasons) like that into the patch notes or communicate them to us, might not make your lifes easier (you'll never get everyone happy) but at least it would make you more believable.

As I said my english so sorry for every mistake. I hope you got what I wanted to say.

IMHO, they keep on selling us hope. Hope about balance, hope about a finished game. Once they make a decent game, they will have nothing else to sell.

roigseguib16_ESO · January 2017

is PTS still down?

DrWill · January 2017

ITS OPEN GUYS

DeHei · January 2017

mdylan2013 wrote: »

Shokasegambit1 wrote: »

RiP Templars lol

Where do you get that from? The only real change is to radiant and that's still only a minor one.

Total Dark/eclipse changes more than make up for it in my opinion.

In PvE is all fine.. I will miss my execute, but i deal more Damage with all of my dots for sure..

The see the Problem in PvP.. You dont have much space for skills to pressure enemys. You need most of it for survivalskills. Templar lost 1 cc skill (we just had 2-3 usefull cc skills) with blazing spear and radiant was the only skill for a bit pressure in different builds...
Sure i can play a healertank in smallscale like some Templars allready do, but i liked the possibility to play him solo. I played him as a range DD& survivalmonster with froststaff, a lot of cc and pressure at least. This time will surely be over

And forget the "Pseudo"buffs for some Damageskills, Templar never needed that.. we really missed cc, because we dont have escapeskills... this Balancepatch destroy the cc and we just stay with Healing and low Damage..

so RIP good old Templar!

Stonesthrow · January 2017

fritzOSU03 wrote: »

On a side note, I want a full-size mammoth mount that I can dye at the dye station. Thanks.

You and your damn mammoths!