PTS Patch Notes v2.7.0 (Homestead)

Adenoma · January 2017

I'm pretty bitter than instead of fixing clouding swarm (as requested through multiple iterations of the PTS - and I think someone from ZOS said they had a fix planned with this update), ZOS just gave up and made it a different skill. Thanks?

TheHsN · January 2017

Dymence wrote: »

Twohothardware wrote: »

Dymence wrote: »

Pretty satisfied with overall changes, looks like a pretty interesting balance patch. Don't know why people are throwing such a fuss. Most of the posters seem to have no clue whatsoever...

Bit sad for the nightblades though, but oh well.

And what class do you main?

Sorc

Are u sure u play teso...can it be another game something

fritzOSU03 · January 2017

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Item Set procs which deal damage or healing can no longer Critically Strike.

I get that this will provide more balance in Cyrodiil but removing this feature from PvE outside of Cyrodiil is completely unnecessary.

Honestly, I see more nerfs to magicka users than buffs which only adds to the DPS gap. Did nobody honestly think to make two-handed weapons count for two pieces toward set bonuses? We know this concept is recognized at ZOS because the damage and traits listed for dual-wield items are half of that found on a two-handed weapon. If you want to provide more balance between stamina and magicka users, that's a perfect place to start.

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Dragonknight
Standard of Might (Dragonknight Standard morph): This morph now increases your damage done and decreases your damage taken by 12/13/14/15% while standing inside the standard, down from 17/18/19/20%.

Templar
Blazing Spear (Spear Shards morph): Increased the duration of this morph to 8 seconds from 6 seconds, causing it to tick damage an additional 2 times; however, it no longer stuns the enemy when it first hits them.

Radiant Destruction: Decreased the damage from this ability and its morphs by approximately 21%.

Weapon
Bow
Adjusted the order of the Active Abilities in this skill line. They now unlock in the following order:
Snipe

Volley

Magnum Shot

Arrow Spray

Poison Arrow

Have you all lost your minds? Why nerf standard, remove the templar interrupt, and nerf radiant destruction?! This has no benefit in PvE and shouldn't have been done solely for PvP. And speaking of PvP, putting snipe as the first unlock on the list?! That should make the non-vet campaign absolutely awful...

On a side note, I want a full-size mammoth mount that I can dye at the dye station. Thanks.

ZOS_PhilipDraven · January 2017

Jim_Pipp wrote: »

As houses are account to wide, will the achievements for owning houses be account wide? @ZOS_GinaBruno does this mean titles like 'count' and 'lord' are going to be account wide?

Indirectly, yes. The achievements in question update based on your character entering the specific home owned by you, so you can do this on each of your characters to complete the achievement and gain the associated title.

Foxic · January 2017

TheHsN wrote: »

Dymence wrote: »

Twohothardware wrote: »

Dymence wrote: »

Pretty satisfied with overall changes, looks like a pretty interesting balance patch. Don't know why people are throwing such a fuss. Most of the posters seem to have no clue whatsoever...

Bit sad for the nightblades though, but oh well.

And what class do you main?

Sorc

Are u sure u play teso...can it be another game something

As I said in a previous comment. Sorc is getting buffed this update for pve. Everyone saying dps is going down has no idea what they're talking about.

Ancient knowledge is ridiculously strong. Combine that with the aoe cap change and scalding rune buff. Not to mention 39 more cp. Raid dps is going to increase.

Nb even got a slight buff. The only Magicka class that got hurt is magplar

Foxic · January 2017

fritzOSU03 wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Item Set procs which deal damage or healing can no longer Critically Strike.

I get that this will provide more balance in Cyrodiil but removing this feature from PvE outside of Cyrodiil is completely unnecessary.

Honestly, I see more nerfs to magicka users than buffs which only adds to the DPS gap. Did nobody honestly think to make two-handed weapons count for two pieces toward set bonuses? We know this concept is recognized at ZOS because the damage and traits listed for dual-wield items are half of that found on a two-handed weapon. If you want to provide more balance between stamina and magicka users, that's a perfect place to start.

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Dragonknight
Standard of Might (Dragonknight Standard morph): This morph now increases your damage done and decreases your damage taken by 12/13/14/15% while standing inside the standard, down from 17/18/19/20%.

Templar
Blazing Spear (Spear Shards morph): Increased the duration of this morph to 8 seconds from 6 seconds, causing it to tick damage an additional 2 times; however, it no longer stuns the enemy when it first hits them.

Radiant Destruction: Decreased the damage from this ability and its morphs by approximately 21%.

Weapon
Bow
Adjusted the order of the Active Abilities in this skill line. They now unlock in the following order:
Snipe

Volley

Magnum Shot

Arrow Spray

Poison Arrow

Have you all lost your minds? Why nerf standard, remove the templar interrupt, and nerf radiant destruction?! This has no benefit in PvE and shouldn't have been done solely for PvP. And speaking of PvP, putting snipe as the first unlock on the list?! That should make the non-vet campaign absolutely awful...

On a side note, I want a full-size mammoth mount that I can dye at the dye station. Thanks.

Everyone is completely ignoring the aoe cap change and new destro passive.

Raid dps is going to increase. The only magicka class getting hurt is magplar potentially.

Moglijuana · January 2017

Anyone know the max amount of players allowed inside the largest houses?

Elsonso · January 2017

Moglijuana wrote: »

Anyone know the max amount of players allowed inside the largest houses?

The manors had better allow a lot of players because these are likely to be used as guild houses, and guilds can have 500 people in them. Naturally, not all of them will be online at the same time, but still...

Paulington · January 2017

Moglijuana wrote: »

Anyone know the max amount of players allowed inside the largest houses?

I vaguely recall a dev mentioning twenty-four people at one point however that was a little while ago and may well have changed. Perhaps one of them will chime in here before we get a chance to test it ourselves.

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fritzOSU03 · January 2017

TotallyNotVos wrote: »

Everyone is completely ignoring the aoe cap change and new destro passive.

Raid dps is going to increase. The only magicka class getting hurt is magplar potentially.

You're absolutely right because 1)there is no reference to what the current AoE caps are and 2)my main trial DPS character is a magplar where I can't use a destro staff on my front bar because I lose item set bonuses. I guess we'll just have to wait and see how much raid DPS actually changes. If it drops then maybe I'll need to make an ice staff tank...

ZOS_GinaBruno · January 2017

Moglijuana wrote: »

Anyone know the max amount of players allowed inside the largest houses?

24 players in a Manor, plus yourself.

Garrick · January 2017

TotallyNotVos wrote: »

The only magicka class getting hurt is magplar potentially.

Typical. Why does PVE have to suffer for PVP? Very annoyed about changes to Blazing Spear and Radiant Destruction in PVE. Seems like ZOS wants magplars to be healers only.

I don't know why Blazing Spear had to change. I wasn't aware that there was much wrong with it. Ok, it stuns, for 2 whole seconds, but then CC immunity kicks in.

Radiant Destruction just needed to have less range, like 17-22 meters. I'd even take being dodgeable. But to ultra nerf the damage to fix complaining from PVPers is lame.

I know PVP needs work, but ANNOYING THE HUGE MAJORITY OF PVERS TO PLEASE THE TINY MINORITY OF PVPERS IS DUMB. It makes no business sense.

AdamBourke · January 2017

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

24 players in a Manor, plus yourself.

That's going to upset people...

(Not me, i'm keeping my door locked...)

bellatrixed · January 2017

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Moglijuana wrote: »

Anyone know the max amount of players allowed inside the largest houses?

24 players in a Manor, plus yourself.

Is there any chance of this being increased? I regularly host RP events that draw upwards of 50 players and was really hoping to use housing for my events. This is very disappointing.

fritzOSU03 · January 2017

bellatrixed wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Moglijuana wrote: »

Anyone know the max amount of players allowed inside the largest houses?

24 players in a Manor, plus yourself.

Is there any chance of this being increased? I regularly host RP events that draw upwards of 50 players and was really hoping to use housing for my events. This is very disappointing.

This. Our GM was planning to buy all three manors for the guild.

Foxic · January 2017

fritzOSU03 wrote: »

TotallyNotVos wrote: »

Everyone is completely ignoring the aoe cap change and new destro passive.

Raid dps is going to increase. The only magicka class getting hurt is magplar potentially.

You're absolutely right because 1)there is no reference to what the current AoE caps are and 2)my main trial DPS character is a magplar where I can't use a destro staff on my front bar because I lose item set bonuses. I guess we'll just have to wait and see how much raid DPS actually changes. If it drops then maybe I'll need to make an ice staff tank...

Targets 1 – 6: 100% damage taken with all secondary effects applied.
Targets 7 – 24: 75% damage taken with no secondary effects applied (formerly 50% damage taken).
Targets 25 – 60: 50% damage taken with no secondary effects applied (formerly 25% damage taken).

The bracketed numbers are the current aoe caps. It's a significant buff

LexrayEmberrr · January 2017

@ZOS_GinaBruno

What about the Large houses? Like, say, the Gardner house in Wayrest?

gard · January 2017

ZOS should really stick to housing, motifs, clown crates, and crafting. That's what they seem to be good at.

Gameplay wise, this patch is great if you want to play a pet sorc or a staff tank. Other than that, it's a big pile of suck.

Apherius · January 2017

We can invite all our Guildmates in our manor , right ? but only 24 people can be there at the same time? I'am right ?

Moglijuana · January 2017

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Moglijuana wrote: »

Anyone know the max amount of players allowed inside the largest houses?

24 players in a Manor, plus yourself.

Thank you Gina =D

bellatrixed · January 2017

24 seems like an EXTREMELY low cap. It's actually the lowest cap I've ever seen in a game with housing. Most allow at least 50, but many even go up to 75 or 100.

Please consider increasing this! Homestead's biggest draw will be the social/RP crowd. 24 is very very small for a RP or social gathering, especially if we're also expected to use these for guild housing.

KrishakPanettier · January 2017

Blackrose change from Stamina to Magicka. Why would you switch such fundamental settings. Make a new set rather than change an existing. People acquire certain sets because of their current listed specifications. Blackrose is used on stamina builds because of the 2-5 abilities as-currently listed. Blackrose is intended for Heavy Armor and works off the constitution skill in Heavy Armor. I would think more Stamina builds use it.

Moglijuana · January 2017

KrishakPanettier wrote: »

Blackrose change from Stamina to Magicka. Why would you switch such fundamental settings. Make a new set rather than change an existing. People acquire certain sets because of their current listed specifications. Blackrose is used on stamina builds because of the 2-5 abilities as-currently listed. Blackrose is intended for Heavy Armor and works off the constitution skill in Heavy Armor. I would think more Stamina builds use it.

I use it on my MDK. I like the change.

roigseguib16_ESO · January 2017

mdylan2013 wrote: »

Shokasegambit1 wrote: »

RiP Templars lol

Where do you get that from? The only real change is to radiant and that's still only a minor one.

Total Dark/eclipse changes more than make up for it in my opinion.

RIP Templars because:

1. Magicka Templar already sucks for solo and Blazing Spear was a reasonable stun/damage skill, that goes to waste because of no stun.
2. Radiant damage reduction? 21%. Let's say its fair (its not), a 10k radiant (which means you were at 20% Health anyway) will be around 8k, which unless you have 50k+ health will kill you. Fair enough. Destro ulti, around 25-35k DPS per target in PvP in a retardedly big AoE? 5% damage reduction. Oh, and 8%+ AoE damage from Lightning Staff. "balance".
3. Magicka Templar does notnuse any of those skills. They are minor debuffs and mainly specific utility skills worthless in regular open world pvp.

What do Magicka Templars need? Either mobility, cc or damage. Aye, heavy armoured healers are hard to kill, but is it really a threat? No.

In my opinion, a 10% damage reduction on Radiant would be fair, but whatever. Removing Blazing Spear stun is a kick in the face. Improve Dark Flare, make a Blazing Shield morph for Magicka. Whatever, just give us something.

fritzOSU03 · January 2017

TotallyNotVos wrote: »

Targets 1 – 6: 100% damage taken with all secondary effects applied.
Targets 7 – 24: 75% damage taken with no secondary effects applied (formerly 50% damage taken).
Targets 25 – 60: 50% damage taken with no secondary effects applied (formerly 25% damage taken).

The bracketed numbers are the current aoe caps. It's a significant buff

Ok, thanks for pointing that out. But with that being said, how much will this help when fighting The Warrior, The Mage, The Serpent, Rakkhat, or any other trial/dungeon boss? The first six targets might get some additional secondary effects. I would also say that clearing trash might be a little quicker if everything is very neatly stacked but that's about as far as it goes.

DrWill · January 2017

How much time left, maybe 1 hour? ToT

Koensol · January 2017

mdylan2013 wrote: »

Shokasegambit1 wrote: »

RiP Templars lol

Where do you get that from? The only real change is to radiant

You have got to be kidding me, right?

jluchau · January 2017

ok... its early afternoon EST.........

Enodoc · January 2017

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Moglijuana wrote: »

Anyone know the max amount of players allowed inside the largest houses?

24 players in a Manor, plus yourself.

That's really not enough for Guild purposes. Hopefully there's a chance this can be revised upwards.

Edit: 60 I think would be a good target for a Manor. 24 sounds like it would be about right for a Large.

Nevindri · January 2017

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Moglijuana wrote: »

Anyone know the max amount of players allowed inside the largest houses?

24 players in a Manor, plus yourself.

Can you guys please consider letting us test larger populations then 24? That is very low compared to what other MMOs are able to pull off, I know RP events are hosted with much larger populations. Even 50 would seem much more reasonable than 24.