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POLL: A hacker who hacks the game server for cheating should...

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altemriel
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Yes they do exist and they hack the game for unfair advantage in PVP.....see the locked treads for more info
Edited by altemriel on June 16, 2016 11:31AM

POLL: A hacker who hacks the game server for cheating should... 97 votes

RECEIVE A PERMANENT BAN TO THE GAME WITH NO MERCY, NO SECOND CHANCE, NOTHING, ADIOS!!
82% 80 votes
A ZOS employee should talk to them and ask them to not do it again, then unban them, give them a second change
7% 7 votes
Should be given a second chance, then when they do it again, they should get a third chance...
2% 2 votes
Should receive a free respec possiblity and based on their investment into the game, also free experience scrolls
5% 5 votes
They are ok, we do not care about hackers....
1% 1 vote
No Eta on solution...
2% 2 votes
  • dtm_samuraib16_ESO
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    Be neutered.
    With a hammer.
    BIG hammer.
    No anesthesia.
    Thrown in a muddy, dark cellar.
    And perma banned, just for the heck of it.
    Earthdawn Game Master Role Play Quotes by me:
    "If it looks like a bear, if it feels like a bear, smells and tastes like a bear, then be VERY aware, it could be something ENTIRELY different..."
    "Be careful what you wish for, you might get plenty of it..."
  • dtm_samuraib16_ESO
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    Be neutered.
    With a hammer.
    A BIG hammer.
    Thrown in a dark, cold, muddy cell with no food or water.
    And perma banned for the heck of it.

    And be glad I do not feel sadistic at the moment. :(
    Earthdawn Game Master Role Play Quotes by me:
    "If it looks like a bear, if it feels like a bear, smells and tastes like a bear, then be VERY aware, it could be something ENTIRELY different..."
    "Be careful what you wish for, you might get plenty of it..."
  • InvitationNotFound
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    unfortunately, this poll will be locked. a bit too biased i guess... not wrong... but not what ZOS wants to see...
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  • dtm_samuraib16_ESO
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    Wha?
    Two posts?
    I thought my first did not come through, dang...
    Earthdawn Game Master Role Play Quotes by me:
    "If it looks like a bear, if it feels like a bear, smells and tastes like a bear, then be VERY aware, it could be something ENTIRELY different..."
    "Be careful what you wish for, you might get plenty of it..."
  • altemriel
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    InvitationNotFound wrote: »
    unfortunately, this poll will be locked. a bit too biased i guess... not wrong... but not what ZOS wants to see...

    I know that, it was more a joke to add some more attention to this issue...
  • Turelus
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    I chose option two: A ZOS employee should talk to them and ask them to not do it again, then unban them, give them a second change

    I am fine with people having second chances after a temp ban and a strike system against accounts. However this needs to be communicated by ZOS and they also need to take away any gain the player made whilst cheating.

    The accounts (and owners) also need to have a clear mark against them and this to be conveyed that should they abuse again in any way the ban will be permanent.

    @Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
    "Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."
    The Great Forums Banning #NeverForget
  • kevlarto_ESO
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    Run third party programs or change client data no mercy, cheaters no skill, lowest of the low, they cause the company to lose players and revenue
  • dtm_samuraib16_ESO
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    They should also rewards the good people.
    In the end, THEY suffered massive frustrations.
    Earthdawn Game Master Role Play Quotes by me:
    "If it looks like a bear, if it feels like a bear, smells and tastes like a bear, then be VERY aware, it could be something ENTIRELY different..."
    "Be careful what you wish for, you might get plenty of it..."
  • daemonios
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    You get to cheat, and YOU get to cheat, and EVERYBODY GETS TO CHEAT!

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  • Turelus
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    dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »
    They should also rewards the good people.
    In the end, THEY suffered massive frustrations.
    This I disagree with. They shouldn't have to give out cookies and gold stars to players who are playing the way they're meant to, their reward is that they enjoy the game and have a fair game to play on.

    If you focus on a clear and strict punishment system then you'll not only remove cheaters/exploiters but also send a clear message to anyone considering it that their accounts could be lost doing so.
    @Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
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  • dtm_samuraib16_ESO
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    It would be a thorn in the side of the hackers for sure.
    They get banned, AND the rest gets rewarded.

    Win win situation if you ask me.
    Earthdawn Game Master Role Play Quotes by me:
    "If it looks like a bear, if it feels like a bear, smells and tastes like a bear, then be VERY aware, it could be something ENTIRELY different..."
    "Be careful what you wish for, you might get plenty of it..."
  • NewBlacksmurf
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    Funny how everyone jumps to extremes
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  • Bashev
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    Turelus wrote: »
    I chose option two: A ZOS employee should talk to them and ask them to not do it again, then unban them, give them a second change

    I am fine with people having second chances after a temp ban and a strike system against accounts. However this needs to be communicated by ZOS and they also need to take away any gain the player made whilst cheating.

    The accounts (and owners) also need to have a clear mark against them and this to be conveyed that should they abuse again in any way the ban will be permanent.

    Why ZoS should waist human resources for this? Just perma ban and we can go on.
    Because I can!
  • dtm_samuraib16_ESO
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    NewBlacksmurf wrote: »
    Funny how everyone jumps to extremes
    Is that at me?
    If so, I was not even REMOTELY extreme...
    Earthdawn Game Master Role Play Quotes by me:
    "If it looks like a bear, if it feels like a bear, smells and tastes like a bear, then be VERY aware, it could be something ENTIRELY different..."
    "Be careful what you wish for, you might get plenty of it..."
  • nine9six
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    I'd vote for Permaban as I really hate hackers, but I would hate for someone who isn't hacking to get somehow caught up in a mass ban.

    However, I don't play the stupid "3 strikes" BS. You get one shot at redemption.
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  • dtm_samuraib16_ESO
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    Yeah, shoting yourself in the head usually is not up for a second try.

    If you burn your arse, you need to sit on the blisters.
    Earthdawn Game Master Role Play Quotes by me:
    "If it looks like a bear, if it feels like a bear, smells and tastes like a bear, then be VERY aware, it could be something ENTIRELY different..."
    "Be careful what you wish for, you might get plenty of it..."
  • dsalter
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    hackers willingly try to cheat. do we give murderers a second chance when they intended to kill?
    PLEASE REPLY TO ME WITH @dsalter otherwise i'm likely to miss the reply if its not my own thread

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  • Clerics1985
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    pay for their subscription obviously these are the people they have been "building" the game around it is only right they get special privilages.
  • Cazzy
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    We live in a world of Brock Turners and their judges.
  • dtm_samuraib16_ESO
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    Precisely.

    One of the things that make justice fails is a double, tripple and higher amount of standards.
    Earthdawn Game Master Role Play Quotes by me:
    "If it looks like a bear, if it feels like a bear, smells and tastes like a bear, then be VERY aware, it could be something ENTIRELY different..."
    "Be careful what you wish for, you might get plenty of it..."
  • Axoinus
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    If they really hacked a server, they should be charged with breaking a crime. Seems like it would be in par with breaking an entry.
  • altemriel
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    Axoinus wrote: »
    If they really hacked a server, they should be charged with breaking a crime. Seems like it would be in par with breaking an entry.


    As more people wrote it on the forum here, there is a third party software, that enables people who know how to use it to gain unfair advantages in the game (like infinite ultimate for example, or god mode).

    read more about it here:
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/272185/hacking-the-game-deserves-permaban-zos-pls-deal-with-it-asap-serious-issue/p1
  • Turelus
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    Bashev wrote: »
    Turelus wrote: »
    I chose option two: A ZOS employee should talk to them and ask them to not do it again, then unban them, give them a second change

    I am fine with people having second chances after a temp ban and a strike system against accounts. However this needs to be communicated by ZOS and they also need to take away any gain the player made whilst cheating.

    The accounts (and owners) also need to have a clear mark against them and this to be conveyed that should they abuse again in any way the ban will be permanent.

    Why ZoS should waist human resources for this? Just perma ban and we can go on.

    Generally because you want to catch the people who are still passionate about the game or don't know better. There are a number of blog entries and videos from CCP Games showing the numbers who turned around after warnings/bans.

    The thing is you do actually want to retain your players but you want to show them that cheating and abuse is not acceptable within the game. If ZOS manage to fix their detection systems and start regular and strict enforcement of exploitation then a two strike system isn't a bad thing.
    @Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
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  • ContraTempo
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    Jail. Seriously, if someone hacks the server (which IS what you said) it is a violation of state and federal law. Fines, imprisonment. Running exploits is one thing but you do not want to become the subject of an investigation for illegal access (including exceeding approved access) to a server.
    ContraTempo
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