[The Bug Notes] Compendium of current Bugs / Exploits

Xantaria · January 2016

Refuse2GrowUp wrote: »

Xantaria wrote: »

pandoraderomanus wrote: »

Fall damage is everywhere (maybe it was mentioned, I didn't check all the pages) in Cyrodiil. Some people put a lot of Volcanic Runes on the ground until people die because of fall damage. Also meteor causes the same problem, no matter where you are, no matter how flat is the ground. It should be fixed.

I remember they had multiple fixes directed to those issues. I'll add it if this is still a thing.

It is definitely still a thing. I have about a dozen screen shots of 50-60k fall damage within the last week.

God damnit :S

Kippesnikke · January 2016

Hey Xanti,

Inner rage/ fire is still bugged. Sometimes after 5 seconds the taunt just dissapeares sometimes u activate the boss but the taunt doesnt apply at all. this can have some annoying consequences. Also when Inner rage / fire is cast it sometimes sheets my sword and shield.

Usara · January 2016

Xantaria wrote: »

Usara wrote: »

Since Tuesday, Necrotic/Mystic Orb doesn't give back magicka anymore when the synergy is used (only the Undaunted Command gives back magicka).

We tested it with different persons, different classes, levels, morphed and unmorphed, in dungeons and outside (PC)

Oh God, please No, No ... Noooo ...

Indeed.

We first wondered why we had had so much issues with magicka. Being a user of Cloud Combat addon with the returning Magicka displayed, it was easy to narrow it down when I saw I had no magicka return (besides the Undaunted Command) when using the synergy in the middle of a pack.

We tested further afterwards and it has been confirmed by all of its users in our guild.

I am surprised no one mentioned it though, since Necrotic Orbs has become such a powerful sustain magicka tool in PvE for months now.

LorDrek · January 2016

pandoraderomanus wrote: »

Fall damage is everywhere (maybe it was mentioned, I didn't check all the pages) in Cyrodiil. Some people put a lot of Volcanic Runes on the ground until people die because of fall damage. Also meteor causes the same problem, no matter where you are, no matter how flat is the ground. It should be fixed.

Yes yesterday in cyro i have fall dmg from meteor 38k. 5 time.

TwoFingersInCider · January 2016

Kippesnikke wrote: »

Hey Xanti,

Inner rage/ fire is still bugged. Sometimes after 5 seconds the taunt just dissapeares sometimes u activate the boss but the taunt doesnt apply at all. this can have some annoying consequences. Also when Inner rage / fire is cast it sometimes sheets my sword and shield.

I can confirm this. I thought I was the only one

I also think puncture sometimes do this for some boss.

Personofsecrets · January 2016

TwoFingersInCider wrote: »

Kippesnikke wrote: »

Hey Xanti,

Inner rage/ fire is still bugged. Sometimes after 5 seconds the taunt just dissapeares sometimes u activate the boss but the taunt doesnt apply at all. this can have some annoying consequences. Also when Inner rage / fire is cast it sometimes sheets my sword and shield.

I can confirm this. I thought I was the only one I also think puncture sometimes do this for some boss.

I'm not sure if this issue is totally taunting fault. What seems to happen is that if a boss fight is failed, then the boss resets like normal, but will then abnormally instantly reset a single time after the first action of some future pulls.

This used to happen a lot when doing vdsa and the way we found around it was to open the fight with a light attack followed up with a taunt.That ensursed zero confusion about whether or not the taunt worked. This has been a bug for so very long.

(@wrobel , it turns out that players recasting taunt and feeling that taunt was broken was because of this issue and targeting being terrible - it wasn't just that people couldn't count to 15.)

Xantaria · January 2016

Personofsecrets wrote: »

TwoFingersInCider wrote: »

Kippesnikke wrote: »

Hey Xanti,

Inner rage/ fire is still bugged. Sometimes after 5 seconds the taunt just dissapeares sometimes u activate the boss but the taunt doesnt apply at all. this can have some annoying consequences. Also when Inner rage / fire is cast it sometimes sheets my sword and shield.

I can confirm this. I thought I was the only one I also think puncture sometimes do this for some boss.

I'm not sure if this issue is totally taunting fault. What seems to happen is that if a boss fight is failed, then the boss resets like normal, but will then abnormally instantly reset a single time after the first action of some future pulls.

This used to happen a lot when doing vdsa and the way we found around it was to open the fight with a light attack followed up with a taunt.That ensursed zero confusion about whether or not the taunt worked. This has been a bug for so very long.

(@wrobel , it turns out that players recasting taunt and feeling that taunt was broken was because of this issue and targeting being terrible - it wasn't just that people couldn't count to 15.)

I think he is talking about a different issue happening during the fight not on the pull.

Usara · January 2016

Kippesnikke wrote: »

Hey Xanti,

Inner rage/ fire is still bugged. Sometimes after 5 seconds the taunt just dissapeares sometimes u activate the boss but the taunt doesnt apply at all. this can have some annoying consequences. Also when Inner rage / fire is cast it sometimes sheets my sword and shield.

Xantaria wrote: »

I think he is talking about a different issue happening during the fight not on the pull.

I'm not sure he is. With certain add ons, it is clear the boss resets (you clearly see Enter Combat/Left Combat/Enter Combat) and thus is cleansed of the taunt, though if people are close enough, fight has begun, and the boss then runs where he wants.

Some bosses resets way more often than others (Hiath the Battlemaster and the Flesh Sculptor come instantly to mind) and it happens regularly on a lot of others bosses/enemies (Lord Warden and Crematorium Daedroths are certainly in the top-ten list)

Xantaria · January 2016

Usara wrote: »

Kippesnikke wrote: »

Hey Xanti,

Inner rage/ fire is still bugged. Sometimes after 5 seconds the taunt just dissapeares sometimes u activate the boss but the taunt doesnt apply at all. this can have some annoying consequences. Also when Inner rage / fire is cast it sometimes sheets my sword and shield.

Xantaria wrote: »

I think he is talking about a different issue happening during the fight not on the pull.

I'm not sure he is. With certain add ons, it is clear the boss resets (you clearly see Enter Combat/Left Combat/Enter Combat) and thus is cleansed of the taunt, though if people are close enough, fight has begun, and the boss then runs where he wants.

Some bosses resets way more often than others (Hiath the Battlemaster and the Flesh Sculptor come instantly to mind) and it happens regularly on a lot of others bosses/enemies (Lord Warden and Crematorium Daedroths are certainly in the top-ten list)

I (and he too) know about that and also avoid it by taunting multiple times at the start just in case you get that left combat message. I am talking with him on a daily basis and as I said, he means something else. I haven't experienced it myself because I haven't been tanking in a while.

Usara · January 2016

Xantaria wrote: »

snip

Okay, my bad ^^

EgoRush · January 2016

Usara wrote: »

Xantaria wrote: »

Usara wrote: »

Since Tuesday, Necrotic/Mystic Orb doesn't give back magicka anymore when the synergy is used (only the Undaunted Command gives back magicka).

We tested it with different persons, different classes, levels, morphed and unmorphed, in dungeons and outside (PC)

Oh God, please No, No ... Noooo ...

Indeed.

We first wondered why we had had so much issues with magicka. Being a user of Cloud Combat addon with the returning Magicka displayed, it was easy to narrow it down when I saw I had no magicka return (besides the Undaunted Command) when using the synergy in the middle of a pack.

We tested further afterwards and it has been confirmed by all of its users in our guild.

I am surprised no one mentioned it though, since Necrotic Orbs has become such a powerful sustain magicka tool in PvE for months now.

So Mystic Orbs are supposed to give magicka back instantly, then additional magicka over time based on the number of enemies hit. We've noticed that it doesn't return anything if there are no enemies/not in combat. Have you tested whether it is the immediate magicka return or the return-over-time (or indeed both) that are broken? Have you tested this in combat ensuring at least 1 mob is hit by the orb before the synergy is performed. I worry Combat Cloud may not show it properly, so perhaps you could drain your magicka and watch the recovery rate (or calculate this from your character sheet), then do the same after a Mystic Orb synergy to see if the recovery rate is faster. I'll perform these tests myself when I next log just in case.

Kippesnikke · January 2016

Xantaria wrote: »

Personofsecrets wrote: »

TwoFingersInCider wrote: »

Kippesnikke wrote: »

Hey Xanti,

Inner rage/ fire is still bugged. Sometimes after 5 seconds the taunt just dissapeares sometimes u activate the boss but the taunt doesnt apply at all. this can have some annoying consequences. Also when Inner rage / fire is cast it sometimes sheets my sword and shield.

I can confirm this. I thought I was the only one I also think puncture sometimes do this for some boss.

I'm not sure if this issue is totally taunting fault. What seems to happen is that if a boss fight is failed, then the boss resets like normal, but will then abnormally instantly reset a single time after the first action of some future pulls.

This used to happen a lot when doing vdsa and the way we found around it was to open the fight with a light attack followed up with a taunt.That ensursed zero confusion about whether or not the taunt worked. This has been a bug for so very long.

(@wrobel , it turns out that players recasting taunt and feeling that taunt was broken was because of this issue and targeting being terrible - it wasn't just that people couldn't count to 15.)

I think he is talking about a different issue happening during the fight not on the pull.

im talking about in fight.

ral · January 2016

The only bugs worth fixing are the ones that breaks a class. Other than that, I rather see zenimax focus on fixing the lags and getting a pvp arena soon.

Usara · January 2016

EgoRush wrote: »

Usara wrote: »

Xantaria wrote: »

Usara wrote: »

Since Tuesday, Necrotic/Mystic Orb doesn't give back magicka anymore when the synergy is used (only the Undaunted Command gives back magicka).

We tested it with different persons, different classes, levels, morphed and unmorphed, in dungeons and outside (PC)

Oh God, please No, No ... Noooo ...

Indeed.

We first wondered why we had had so much issues with magicka. Being a user of Cloud Combat addon with the returning Magicka displayed, it was easy to narrow it down when I saw I had no magicka return (besides the Undaunted Command) when using the synergy in the middle of a pack.

We tested further afterwards and it has been confirmed by all of its users in our guild.

I am surprised no one mentioned it though, since Necrotic Orbs has become such a powerful sustain magicka tool in PvE for months now.

So Mystic Orbs are supposed to give magicka back instantly, then additional magicka over time based on the number of enemies hit. We've noticed that it doesn't return anything if there are no enemies/not in combat. Have you tested whether it is the immediate magicka return or the return-over-time (or indeed both) that are broken? Have you tested this in combat ensuring at least 1 mob is hit by the orb before the synergy is performed. I worry Combat Cloud may not show it properly, so perhaps you could drain your magicka and watch the recovery rate (or calculate this from your character sheet), then do the same after a Mystic Orb synergy to see if the recovery rate is faster. I'll perform these tests myself when I next log just in case.

The tooltip is not clear whether it is the instant return or the return over time that depends on enemies hit ("Plus magicka based on number of enemies hit") but for me, I used to understand it as an instant return ?
And I guess my previous post was not clear but when I say "tested", I indeed meant on enemies. We simply did our tests while daily-ing, and I tested later on a jackal pack in Raidlorn.

Edit : Okay I tested it more thoroughly today. I even recorded my test to look at the numbers more closely.
Good news : Mystic Orb is not as bugged as I thought.
Bad news: something definitely changed since Tuesday.
So the regen works (and Combat Cloud do give the numbers) and you were right Oriantha, it's the regen that is increased with the number of ennemies. The "instant" return behaves very very strangely though.

I won't upload the video because it would need edition to see the interesting part, and I'm soooo lazyyyy, please don't ask me

But here is what I observed :

Mystic Orb on one enemy :
Mystic Orb used at time X (I'm at 47% magicka - 20.668k).
Friend uses synergy at X+2 seconds (I'm at 49% - 21.474k - "natural regen" tick)
Magicka return proc at X+4seconds (61% - 26766k --> I won 4410 (Mystic Orb instant) + 882 (first tick of Mystic Orb regen)

The "instant" return now proc with the first tick of the regen (2 seconds AFTER the synergy was used) - so 2 seconds after the Undaunted Command return too. It used to be when the synergy was used, so of course, Undaunted Command + instant return + first tick was a lot of magicka return at the same second, and it seemed a lot more.

For the second test, I wanted a lot of enemies, so we could see the difference.
Being in Whrotgar (and of course not having a sign above my head - TEST DON'T KILL MY TRASH PLZ), someone shows up and kills the pack.

And that's when it gets interesting : If the enemies are killed right after the synergy (in the laps of 2 seconds), they are not counted for the increased regen ticks.
We managed to recreate the case twice : even if they are killed by the synergy (so no denying they were hit : the explosion killed them), no increased magicka return.

So that is why we felt like we gained nothing on the trashes in Fungal Grotto : they died too fast.

So okay, Mystic Orb works, but not as well as it did before. The tooltip states that the Combustion explosion gives the return of magicka (as it did before the patch), and now the 2 second delay in the return makes it less efficient if half the enemies dies before the proc.

Zaldan · January 2016

Xantaria wrote: »

pandoraderomanus wrote: »

Fall damage is everywhere (maybe it was mentioned, I didn't check all the pages) in Cyrodiil. Some people put a lot of Volcanic Runes on the ground until people die because of fall damage. Also meteor causes the same problem, no matter where you are, no matter how flat is the ground. It should be fixed.

I remember they had multiple fixes directed to those issues. I'll add it if this is still a thing.

still a thing on stairs despite standing still and not falling any further than I would on flat ground.

Ra'Shtar · January 2016

Has the Torugs pact bug from having two staves ( no bonus) and still gives you the 129 spell damage been added?

Fasold666 · January 2016

You have it on the list already but I just want to post it again here. Maybe some more people struggling with that bug can post in my thread so ZOS might fix it one day...

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/221681/zos-ignoring-game-breaking-bug-no-progress-in-fighters-mages-guild-skill-line#latest

Xantaria · January 2016

Fasold666 wrote: »

You have it on the list already but I just want to post it again here. Maybe some more people struggling with that bug can post in my thread so ZOS might fix it one day...

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/221681/zos-ignoring-game-breaking-bug-no-progress-in-fighters-mages-guild-skill-line#latest

i've been watching your thread for a while ... really hope you will get somewhere with it soon. :S

Kippesnikke · January 2016

needing to heavy attack before u can use chains again is starting to annoy me aswell.

Praeficere · January 2016

Flames of Oblivion bug:

Once weapon swapped, the Major Savagery buff given by the toggle only applies to the second ability bar, no matter which bar the toggle is first activated. Major Prophecy remains on both bars.

Update: Major Savagery provided by Evil Hunter overrides the one given by Flames of Oblivion. Major Savagery from Flames of Oblivion does not return unless retoggled on a non-Evil Hunter bar.

Xantaria · January 2016

Praeficere wrote: »

Flames of Oblivion bug:

Once weapon swapped, the Major Savagery buff given by the toggle only applies to the second ability bar, no matter which bar the toggle is first activated. Major Prophecy remains on both bars.

Do you have Evil/Camouflaged Hunter on one of your bars?

Praeficere · January 2016

Xantaria wrote: »

Do you have Evil/Camouflaged Hunter on one of your bars?

Right, that was it. Evil Hunter overrides the Major Savagery buff from FoL and it doesn't return I take it. The Major Savagery buff I was seeing on the 2nd bar was Evil Hunter.

Xantaria · January 2016

Praeficere wrote: »

Xantaria wrote: »

Do you have Evil/Camouflaged Hunter on one of your bars?

Right, that was it. Evil Hunter overrides the Major Savagery buff from FoL and it doesn't return I take it. The Major Savagery buff I was seeing on the 2nd bar was Evil Hunter.

Exactly. This is a bug I've experienced myself. Just didn't add it yet, will do later.

VoiDGhOs7 · January 2016

Xantaria wrote: »

Refuse2GrowUp wrote: »

Xantaria wrote: »

pandoraderomanus wrote: »

Fall damage is everywhere (maybe it was mentioned, I didn't check all the pages) in Cyrodiil. Some people put a lot of Volcanic Runes on the ground until people die because of fall damage. Also meteor causes the same problem, no matter where you are, no matter how flat is the ground. It should be fixed.

I remember they had multiple fixes directed to those issues. I'll add it if this is still a thing.

It is definitely still a thing. I have about a dozen screen shots of 50-60k fall damage within the last week.

God damnit :S

Yes,fall damage bug from Meteor+Morphs is still in game, two days ago I got a Meteor in face and my death recap showed 48k fall damage.

I think the bug is related to being on stairs while getting hit by Meteor(and maybe because of lag+meteor spam make it happen but I don't have any proof about it) since if I get hit while on normal ground the fall damage doesn't appear on death recap.But then again who knows how it works.

Refuse2GrowUp · January 2016

VoiDGhOs7 wrote: »

Xantaria wrote: »

Refuse2GrowUp wrote: »

Xantaria wrote: »

pandoraderomanus wrote: »

Fall damage is everywhere (maybe it was mentioned, I didn't check all the pages) in Cyrodiil. Some people put a lot of Volcanic Runes on the ground until people die because of fall damage. Also meteor causes the same problem, no matter where you are, no matter how flat is the ground. It should be fixed.

I remember they had multiple fixes directed to those issues. I'll add it if this is still a thing.

It is definitely still a thing. I have about a dozen screen shots of 50-60k fall damage within the last week.

God damnit :S

Yes,fall damage bug from Meteor+Morphs is still in game, two days ago I got a Meteor in face and my death recap showed 48k fall damage.

I think the bug is related to being on stairs while getting hit by Meteor(and maybe because of lag+meteor spam make it happen but I don't have any proof about it) since if I get hit while on normal ground the fall damage doesn't appear on death recap.But then again who knows how it works.

The bug of taking DoT damage before the meteor actually hits you is still in game too.

Fasold666 · January 2016

Xantaria wrote: »

Fasold666 wrote: »

You have it on the list already but I just want to post it again here. Maybe some more people struggling with that bug can post in my thread so ZOS might fix it one day...

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/221681/zos-ignoring-game-breaking-bug-no-progress-in-fighters-mages-guild-skill-line#latest

i've been watching your thread for a while ... really hope you will get somewhere with it soon. :S

Thank you. I appreciate that. I hope the same for all the other bugs reducing the fun in the game atm.
Oh, and keep up the good work! I really like that compendium of the current bugs and exploits.

Xantaria · January 2016

Refuse2GrowUp wrote: »

VoiDGhOs7 wrote: »

Xantaria wrote: »

Refuse2GrowUp wrote: »

Xantaria wrote: »

pandoraderomanus wrote: »

Fall damage is everywhere (maybe it was mentioned, I didn't check all the pages) in Cyrodiil. Some people put a lot of Volcanic Runes on the ground until people die because of fall damage. Also meteor causes the same problem, no matter where you are, no matter how flat is the ground. It should be fixed.

I remember they had multiple fixes directed to those issues. I'll add it if this is still a thing.

It is definitely still a thing. I have about a dozen screen shots of 50-60k fall damage within the last week.

God damnit :S

Yes,fall damage bug from Meteor+Morphs is still in game, two days ago I got a Meteor in face and my death recap showed 48k fall damage.

I think the bug is related to being on stairs while getting hit by Meteor(and maybe because of lag+meteor spam make it happen but I don't have any proof about it) since if I get hit while on normal ground the fall damage doesn't appear on death recap.But then again who knows how it works.

The bug of taking DoT damage before the meteor actually hits you is still in game too.

afaik this can only happen with shooting star rank 1

Refuse2GrowUp · January 2016

Xantaria wrote: »

Refuse2GrowUp wrote: »

VoiDGhOs7 wrote: »

Xantaria wrote: »

Refuse2GrowUp wrote: »

Xantaria wrote: »

pandoraderomanus wrote: »

Fall damage is everywhere (maybe it was mentioned, I didn't check all the pages) in Cyrodiil. Some people put a lot of Volcanic Runes on the ground until people die because of fall damage. Also meteor causes the same problem, no matter where you are, no matter how flat is the ground. It should be fixed.

I remember they had multiple fixes directed to those issues. I'll add it if this is still a thing.

It is definitely still a thing. I have about a dozen screen shots of 50-60k fall damage within the last week.

God damnit :S

Yes,fall damage bug from Meteor+Morphs is still in game, two days ago I got a Meteor in face and my death recap showed 48k fall damage.

I think the bug is related to being on stairs while getting hit by Meteor(and maybe because of lag+meteor spam make it happen but I don't have any proof about it) since if I get hit while on normal ground the fall damage doesn't appear on death recap.But then again who knows how it works.

The bug of taking DoT damage before the meteor actually hits you is still in game too.

afaik this can only happen with shooting star rank 1

I know rank 1 was the missing animation; never knew it had anything to do with the early DoT dmg. Seems to happen too often to be coincidental that every time I am hit by a r1 meteor, tho I guess it is entirely possible.

zoltarg · February 2016

I have seen at least three mount related visual bugs consistently, but I don't know how to initiate them.

Riding a mount and having your lower body glitch from side to side of the mount, jumping fixes it.
Stuck in riding animation after dismount and appearing to ride halfway submerged in the ground.
While other players are moving on their mount they appear to be running in place on top of their mount

Great thread!

ralonasan · February 2016