The Gold Road Chapter – which includes the Scribing system – and Update 42 is now available to test on the PTS! You can read the latest patch notes here: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/656454/

"You will not be able to outfit your character in class styles other than your current class."

  • Elsonso
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    CoolBlast3 wrote: »
    Ridiculous that this thread has been open since day 1 of the PTS and yet ZOS hasn't said a single thing about it. Even if y'all intend to go through with this moronic "addition" to the game, at the very least say you hear us overwhelmingly hating this and agree that in the future you won't do it again.

    As I recall, it was the same for the Maelstrom weapons. No comment means no change. :neutral:
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  • Alaztor91
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    Hey ZOS, here are some more great ideas regarding cosmetics:

    -Class locked mounts. You know like for example the Storm Atronach ones should only be usable by Sorcerers.
    -Class locked player houses. Who else but a Necromancer would live in a place like Wraithhome.
    -Class locked mementos. Stuff like Discourse Amaranthine only makes sense when used by an Arcanist.
    -Class locked non-combat pets. Only Wardens should be allowed to have Bear Cubs, duh.

    These should, of course, be applied retroactively to the game and would fit nicely with the IA Class Styles.
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  • Marto
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    I really hope ZOS reconsiders this choice.

    And if it's too late to go back or reverse the change, then what about introducing a separate version of the styles that can be worn by every class, but lacks the particle effects?
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  • TheMajority
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    I've given this a lot of consideration since I first posted about it here, and my feelings have changed.

    Instead of feeling that this is a bad decision, I now feel it is an ASTRONOMICALLY BAD DECISION.

  • Sakiri
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    code65536 wrote: »
    The styles aren't just in the thematic style of each class; they also display the unique emblem of each class.

    It would look kind of tacky for a sorc to run around with the nightblade logo on their chest.

    They don't want that.

    Literally, you could just make the nb mask a ffa and this would go away.
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    I see people talking about specifically the nightblade mask a lot, but I also want to add the nightblade legs are really cool with the 3d pockets it has. I was looking forward to those as well. And the sorcerer robe skirt. Not as drastically unique as the mask, but still
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  • LunaFlora
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    I see people talking about specifically the nightblade mask a lot, but I also want to add the nightblade legs are really cool with the 3d pockets it has. I was looking forward to those as well. And the sorcerer robe skirt. Not as drastically unique as the mask, but still

    yea those are also really nice, i love the pockets on the Soulcleaver guards.
    Edited by LunaFlora on March 4, 2024 3:53PM
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  • universal_wrath
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    AScarlato wrote: »
    I’m going against the grain here, it’s called a class style for a reason, pleased each class can show off its own identity, there’s bucket loads of other motifs to pick from, class style for a class is fine by me. Other games have it, I’m just surprised it’s taken 10 years to do it here.
    Let the hate commence!

    I already agreed with this as well. Considering they have the class icons on them (at least the Warden set does, not sure about others), I would think they should stay unique.

    They do, I have the sorc set and it emits a static electricity around the character.
  • universal_wrath
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    Lags wrote: »
    "Style Pages for Class Sets are now available in the Infinite Archive to collect. Style Pages are curated and will drop for your class first. Other Style Pages will drop after a set is complete. All pages are usable, but you will not be able to outfit your character in class styles other than your current class."

    So. What exactly is the point of the style page, then? With every other page, be that style page or motif page, you can wear whatever you please regardless of class, race or equipment.
    Why is this the exception? What is there to gain from this? The main reason most people have been looking forward to the class sets as style pages is, primarily, the nightblade mask. And most people can't access that because they need to be a nightblade to equip it, exactly like the armor piece?

    This goes against the idea of style/motif pages to begin with.

    have to agree this is terrible, was deff looking forward to using the nightblade mask. 90% of the stuff they come out with is so lame, but the mask is a bit different. Guess ill only be using on my nb, which i think ill be playing more next update after reading the patch notes.

    I think like 99% of the players here just wanted the nightblade mask lol

    There will be a motif sometime in the future that has similar style to it.
  • LunaFlora
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    AScarlato wrote: »
    I’m going against the grain here, it’s called a class style for a reason, pleased each class can show off its own identity, there’s bucket loads of other motifs to pick from, class style for a class is fine by me. Other games have it, I’m just surprised it’s taken 10 years to do it here.
    Let the hate commence!

    I already agreed with this as well. Considering they have the class icons on them (at least the Warden set does, not sure about others), I would think they should stay unique.

    They do, I have the sorc set and it emits a static electricity around the character.

    the class icons are only on the chest and weapons.

    the effects are only for equipping 5 pieces.
    Lags wrote: »
    "Style Pages for Class Sets are now available in the Infinite Archive to collect. Style Pages are curated and will drop for your class first. Other Style Pages will drop after a set is complete. All pages are usable, but you will not be able to outfit your character in class styles other than your current class."

    So. What exactly is the point of the style page, then? With every other page, be that style page or motif page, you can wear whatever you please regardless of class, race or equipment.
    Why is this the exception? What is there to gain from this? The main reason most people have been looking forward to the class sets as style pages is, primarily, the nightblade mask. And most people can't access that because they need to be a nightblade to equip it, exactly like the armor piece?

    This goes against the idea of style/motif pages to begin with.

    have to agree this is terrible, was deff looking forward to using the nightblade mask. 90% of the stuff they come out with is so lame, but the mask is a bit different. Guess ill only be using on my nb, which i think ill be playing more next update after reading the patch notes.

    I think like 99% of the players here just wanted the nightblade mask lol

    There will be a motif sometime in the future that has similar style to it.

    Which could be super different and sometime in the future could be years in the future.

    We first saw the class styles on PTS in September without class restrictions and it went live in the same way in November.

    And then a few months later got told they'll be class restricted.
    that's obviously not great for people who were looking forward to using these styles, on any character.

    edited for addition:

    we just need an option to use the styles without the class style effects.
    it's the only thing that makes people recognise your class from afar.
    Edited by LunaFlora on March 4, 2024 6:13PM
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  • Pelanora
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    AScarlato wrote: »
    I’m going against the grain here, it’s called a class style for a reason, pleased each class can show off its own identity, there’s bucket loads of other motifs to pick from, class style for a class is fine by me. Other games have it, I’m just surprised it’s taken 10 years to do it here.
    Let the hate commence!

    I already agreed with this as well. Considering they have the class icons on them (at least the Warden set does, not sure about others), I would think they should stay unique.

    They do, I have the sorc set and it emits a static electricity around the character.

    God help us. Sparky sorcs all the time.
  • Rasande_Robin
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    Don't worry guys, soon we will have "any class any style" in the crown-store! Looking forward to it, so I can finally get that mask I've been longing for!
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  • KingArthasMenethil
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    Alaztor91 wrote: »
    Hey ZOS, here are some more great ideas regarding cosmetics:

    -Class locked mounts. You know like for example the Storm Atronach ones should only be usable by Sorcerers.
    -Class locked player houses. Who else but a Necromancer would live in a place like Wraithhome.
    -Class locked mementos. Stuff like Discourse Amaranthine only makes sense when used by an Arcanist.
    -Class locked non-combat pets. Only Wardens should be allowed to have Bear Cubs, duh.

    These should, of course, be applied retroactively to the game and would fit nicely with the IA Class Styles.
    :trollface:

    Missing out on locking Akaviri styles to Dragon Knight, making sure Templars can't use Daedric styles and artefacts, making sure Necromancers can't use any style that people hate undead use like Meridian and Knight of the Circle and etc.
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    making sure Templars can't use Daedric styles and artefacts,

    Wait, what? ZOS just recently pulled the templars' spear of holy light and replaced it with an undead vampire magic staff converted to a piercing weapon.

    Expecting them to adhere to established lore has proven to be futile on numerous occasions.
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  • Myrillya
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    LunaFlora wrote: »
    sadly the only change to the class restricted styles

    Added a better indicator when previewing Outfit Styles that are class restricted.
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/652754/pts-patch-notes-v9-3-3#latest

    Dang. That's bad. I'm so deeply disappointed in this choice. It's the worst. ESO was so proud all the years to not force something upon you. Choose your style, they said. Hybridization was done, just so everyone can play everything. And what are they doing now? Limiting unique item styles you can't get elsewhere to a freaking class.

    So, I'll still be able to run around looking like I have full heavy armour as a healer, I can wear my Dominion's eagle on a Ebonheart Pact character, I can wear uniforms of houses and guilds I'm not part of, but no. I cannot wear an Nightblade's mask as a Sorc. Even lore-wise this doesn't make any sense whatsoever. In every other TES game I can steal someone's clothes and pretend to be someone else, but no, not when it's about a class in ESO! ;))))

    I don't care about the animation. Make this class-specific, I'm totally fine with that. But give the option for the vanilla look to everyone, dang! Give me the illusion of "I defeated a bunch of Arcanists and I can now wear their clothes"!

    Disappointed. Very, very disappointed. You can do better, ZOS. Look at this thread. People aren't happy AT ALL.
  • Kiyakotari
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    Yeah, I've decided to pass on purchasing Gold Road on my multiple accounts specifically because of this decision by ZOS. Since I generally buy the deluxe editions, that's a couple hundred dollars ZOS won't be getting from me this year. If they hadn't given us a preview months and months ago that wasn't class restricted, maybe it would have been different, but as it stands I've been looking forward to these style pages since September of 2023. I had entire outfits all planned out that would use several of them. And now we're stuck not being able to access them unless we're on the class would have already been able to get that look just by equipping the pieces of the equipment from IA already, back when the Archive first came out? Color me highly unimpressed and exceedingly disappointed.
  • Inari Telvanni
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    So they really rooted their feet on this and ignored all this feedback.

    I'm so very disappointed in everyone involved in this decision. And this might not be fair, but I'm disappointed in the representatives and managers for not communicating with the community.

    Hope you smarten up. ✌️
  • maximusrex45
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    Classes should have something visibly unique to them, I hope the devs continue to keep it this way and will do so going forward with additional class sets. I would be cool with companions being able to use the class set appearance for the class they are based off of.
  • Alpheu5
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    Classes should have something visibly unique to them

    They're called class abilities.
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  • Major_Toughness
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    Kiyakotari wrote: »
    Yeah, I've decided to pass on purchasing Gold Road on my multiple accounts specifically because of this decision by ZOS. Since I generally buy the deluxe editions, that's a couple hundred dollars ZOS won't be getting from me this year. If they hadn't given us a preview months and months ago that wasn't class restricted, maybe it would have been different, but as it stands I've been looking forward to these style pages since September of 2023. I had entire outfits all planned out that would use several of them. And now we're stuck not being able to access them unless we're on the class would have already been able to get that look just by equipping the pieces of the equipment from IA already, back when the Archive first came out? Color me highly unimpressed and exceedingly disappointed.

    Rip bozo
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    Kiyakotari wrote: »
    Yeah, I've decided to pass on purchasing Gold Road on my multiple accounts specifically because of this decision by ZOS. Since I generally buy the deluxe editions, that's a couple hundred dollars ZOS won't be getting from me this year. If they hadn't given us a preview months and months ago that wasn't class restricted, maybe it would have been different, but as it stands I've been looking forward to these style pages since September of 2023. I had entire outfits all planned out that would use several of them. And now we're stuck not being able to access them unless we're on the class would have already been able to get that look just by equipping the pieces of the equipment from IA already, back when the Archive first came out? Color me highly unimpressed and exceedingly disappointed.

    Rip bozo

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    Classes should have something visibly unique to them, I hope the devs continue to keep it this way and will do so going forward with additional class sets.

    I agree. I think this provides an opportunity to get off of the dungeon sets path and onto something different.

    I am not a big fan of homogeneous, and this game already has too much of that.
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  • This_0ne
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    Classes should have something visibly unique to them, I hope the devs continue to keep it this way and will do so going forward with additional class sets. I would be cool with companions being able to use the class set appearance for the class they are based off of.

    They said that they planned to do three class sets for every classes and they are going to continue to do this, but what does this have to do with locking cosmetics and outfits? but by the time the archive was released they managed to make only 7, 1 per class
    Edited by This_0ne on March 16, 2024 12:28PM
  • LunaFlora
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    Classes should have something visibly unique to them, I hope the devs continue to keep it this way and will do so going forward with additional class sets. I would be cool with companions being able to use the class set appearance for the class they are based off of.

    something visibly unique would be the effects the class sets and styles give our characters.

    if we had those effects as an extra thing to enable or disable in settings or collections that would be fine.
    But instead they're tied to outfit styles that people want to use for any character.

    most players mix and match different parts of outfit styles together and we want to do that with the class styles too.

    plus I doubt you'd be able to recognise the class styles from afar in combat. you might recognise the effects though.
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  • Vulkunne
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    Kiyakotari wrote: »
    Yeah, I've decided to pass on purchasing Gold Road on my multiple accounts specifically because of this decision by ZOS. Since I generally buy the deluxe editions, that's a couple hundred dollars ZOS won't be getting from me this year. If they hadn't given us a preview months and months ago that wasn't class restricted, maybe it would have been different, but as it stands I've been looking forward to these style pages since September of 2023. I had entire outfits all planned out that would use several of them. And now we're stuck not being able to access them unless we're on the class would have already been able to get that look just by equipping the pieces of the equipment from IA already, back when the Archive first came out? Color me highly unimpressed and exceedingly disappointed.

    Yep. I was actually getting ready to start on IA until I heard that the Necro style could not be used by other classes, such as NB.

    A good style but terrible implementation creating barriers for no real reason.

    In short, no thanks.
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  • Alp
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    Vulkunne wrote: »
    Kiyakotari wrote: »
    Yeah, I've decided to pass on purchasing Gold Road on my multiple accounts specifically because of this decision by ZOS. Since I generally buy the deluxe editions, that's a couple hundred dollars ZOS won't be getting from me this year. If they hadn't given us a preview months and months ago that wasn't class restricted, maybe it would have been different, but as it stands I've been looking forward to these style pages since September of 2023. I had entire outfits all planned out that would use several of them. And now we're stuck not being able to access them unless we're on the class would have already been able to get that look just by equipping the pieces of the equipment from IA already, back when the Archive first came out? Color me highly unimpressed and exceedingly disappointed.

    Yep. I was actually getting ready to start on IA until I heard that the Necro style could not be used by other classes, such as NB.

    A good style but terrible implementation creating barriers for no real reason.

    In short, no thanks.

    Yeah, completely killed my hype for it, haven't touched endless archive since I found out.
  • Vulkunne
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    So they really rooted their feet on this and ignored all this feedback.

    I'm so very disappointed in everyone involved in this decision. And this might not be fair, but I'm disappointed in the representatives and managers for not communicating with the community.

    Hope you smarten up. ✌️

    You know this post could also apply to many other things we've discussed on here as well.
    Edited by Vulkunne on March 16, 2024 11:43PM
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