Official hints for the next chapter received

phaneub17_ESO · January 10

emilyhyoyeon wrote: »

isn't that the White Gold Tower in the banner image?

This battle is going to be short... I'll show myself out.

Jaraal · January 10

lillybit wrote: »

It's been a while, but I think she was heavily involved in Summerset

Yes Mephala and her champion were in the main zone story. It was divided between three Daedric princes, though.

Tornaad · January 10

emilyhyoyeon wrote: »

isn't that the White Gold Tower in the banner image?

One of the new antiquities introduced in Necrom or the Infinite Archives is of a tower that is initially mistaken for the White Gold Tower.

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Antiquity_Furnishings

It is the Beacon of Tower Zero. The lore you can read from finding it the second time is "This isn't the White-Gold Tower. It's the Direnni Tower. Surely you can recognize the differences between the two? The light is a puzzle, though. Judging by the weight, this stone might house a metal core, just like the genuine article. —Verita Numida"

Soarora · January 10

Tornaad wrote: »

emilyhyoyeon wrote: »

isn't that the White Gold Tower in the banner image?

One of the new antiquities introduced in Necrom or the Infinite Archives is of a tower that is initially mistaken for the White Gold Tower.

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Antiquity_Furnishings

It is the Beacon of Tower Zero. The lore you can read from finding it the second time is "This isn't the White-Gold Tower. It's the Direnni Tower. Surely you can recognize the differences between the two? The light is a puzzle, though. Judging by the weight, this stone might house a metal core, just like the genuine article. —Verita Numida"

The Beacon of Tower Zero is not new. Regardless on which Tower it is, it's not a hint towards next chapter.

vsrs_au · January 10

Jaraal wrote: »

lillybit wrote: »

It's been a while, but I think she was heavily involved in Summerset

Yes Mephala and her champion were in the main zone story. It was divided between three Daedric princes, though.

Yes, I'm familiar with that, but someone said Mephala had an entire chapter, and I don't recall any such chapter.

SeaGtGruff · January 10

The Beacon of Tower Zero wasn't introduced with Necrom; it's been in the game for years now, and is rather common to find in Stormhaven. I've got 6 on PC EU, possibly more since the counts for some antiquities got messed up a few years ago when there was an update that caused a lot of players to suddenly lose a lot of "never expire" leads that they'd been hanging onto, because those leads were given expirations without any forewarning and the leads went bye-bye.

Lugaldu · January 10

The neck collar, which was first interpreted as a musical instrument, is reminiscent of the neck collars worn by some Golden Saints. We meet them in Fargrave, but where do we meet them too? On the Shivering Isles of course! And if we go to Skingrad, it's not far to Bravil, where we know there is a portal (or will be one time)...

SeaGtGruff · January 10

So Uncle Sheo took Falinesti? Well, he took Eyevea, so why not Falinesti, too? /rubbingchin

LunaFlora · January 10

Lugaldu wrote: »

The neck collar, which was first interpreted as a musical instrument, is reminiscent of the neck collars worn by some Golden Saints. We meet them in Fargrave, but where do we meet them too? On the Shivering Isles of course! And if we go to Skingrad, it's not far to Bravil, where we know there is a portal (or will be one time)...

skingrad is actually quite far from Bravil, in eso.
Bravil is in Nibenay and is technically in the current Cyrodiil zone.
though it could be in a future Nibenay zone north of Blackwood.

Skingrad would be in the western unreleased zone and Bravil in the eastern unreleased zone.

edit to add:
we'll probably only get one zone in cyrodiil instead of two this year.

Seraphayel · January 10

vsrs_au wrote: »

Seraphayel wrote: »

Remember, the next Chapter is going to continue the Necrom storyline. Mephala had an entire Chapter already plus additional content during Summerset, so I don't see a return yet. Mora most likely will play a major role again and so might Ithelia. The rest is speculation - going from Telvanni Peninsula to the other end of the world seems a little strange though in that regard, although there are too many hints pointing towards Skingrad. I was hoping for Eastern Skyrim + Solstheim / Winterhold to be honest.

What was the Mephala chapter?

I mean it's not necessarily a Mephala-Chapter, it's a Chapter where Mephala played a major role: Summerset and the respective story-arc which spanned several updates. That doesn't mean a comeback won't happen, but I just don't expect it yet.

Lugaldu · January 10

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

So Uncle Sheo took Falinesti? Well, he took Eyevea, so why not Falinesti, too? /rubbingchin

Yes why not! And since Uncle Sheo is an opponent of the Mages Guild anyway and the Mages Guild will obviously play a role, it would fit well.

LunaFlora wrote: »

skingrad is actually quite far from Bravil, in eso.
Bravil is in Nibenay and is technically in the current Cyrodiil zone.
though it could be in a future Nibenay zone north of Blackwood.

Skingrad would be in the western unreleased zone and Bravil in the eastern unreleased zone.

Well, with regard to the distance that's right, I had the short ride from Skingrad to Bravil from TES IV in the back of my mind...

Jaraal · January 10

LunaFlora wrote: »

Bravil is in Nibenay and is technically in the current Cyrodiil zone.

Yes, the city of Bravil is in the SE corner of the current Cyrodiil, complete with buildings, streets, etc. You used to be able to explore the city when the game first dropped, but ZOS promptly removed access to it with invisible walls. There are still a couple of places where you can "jump the fence," but actually entering Bravil instantly teleports you back to your Alliance base.

Syldras · January 10

Tornaad wrote: »

One of the new antiquities introduced in Necrom or the Infinite Archives is of a tower that is initially mistaken for the White Gold Tower.
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Antiquity_Furnishings
It is the Beacon of Tower Zero. The lore you can read from finding it the second time is "This isn't the White-Gold Tower. It's the Direnni Tower.

It's not new. I'm absolutely sure that I have collected that one at least one year ago, maybe even sooner. Also, that's just the tower on Balfiera where the tutorial takes place for a few years now.

The background picture of the announcement shows an old promo pic of Dominion, Pact and Covenant armies fighting in Cyrodiil, with the Whitegold Tower in the background. It's an old, recycled image, nothing more.

Elsonso · January 10

LunaFlora wrote: »

we'll probably only get one zone in cyrodiil instead of two this year.

I think we will get two zones, one Tamriel and one Oblivion. ("Adding to the Elder Scrolls lore on Daedric realms is something we take great pride in")

I am mixed on the more recent ESO Daedric planes. Apocrypha was pretty good. Deadlands failed to fully capture the vibe that had been established in TES 4, although the Atoll of Immolation does.

I want to add that they seem to be stuck in Shivering Isles mode, where Daedric realms have to have two sides to them. Mania, Dementia. Burn, Sever. Chroma Incognito, Endless Library. That made sense for Shivering Isles, but has become over used.

I am hoping that we see The Pits. Peryite just got dropped from the Necrom story. No one knows what that realm looks like, which is perfect for ZOS to play with. It is rumored to look like Deadlands, the TES 4 version, not the ESO version.

LunaFlora · January 10

Elsonso wrote: »

LunaFlora wrote: »

we'll probably only get one zone in cyrodiil instead of two this year.

I think we will get two zones, one Tamriel and one Oblivion. ("Adding to the Elder Scrolls lore on Daedric realms is something we take great pride in")

I am mixed on the more recent ESO Daedric planes. Apocrypha was pretty good. Deadlands failed to fully capture the vibe that had been established in TES 4, although the Atoll of Immolation does.

I want to add that they seem to be stuck in Shivering Isles mode, where Daedric realms have to have two sides to them. Mania, Dementia. Burn, Sever. Chroma Incognito, Endless Library. That made sense for Shivering Isles, but has become over used.

I am hoping that we see The Pits. Peryite just got dropped from the Necrom story. No one knows what that realm looks like, which is perfect for ZOS to play with. It is rumored to look like Deadlands, the TES 4 version, not the ESO version.

hey that's possible.
i was however referring to how i think we'll only get one cyrodiil zone, Colovia and not also Nibenay.
i was replying to someone thinking we're getting Bravil along with Skingrad.

and if we get a daedric realm again this year it could be anywhere.
maybe ithelia's realm? i think 2025 after we've actually met her makes more sense, but possible.

maybe Sanguine's realm as Plokun from the Gates of Oblivion event mentioned going there.
the Nords from the Disquiet Study delve quest also mention it.

Syldras · January 10

LunaFlora wrote: »

maybe Sanguine's realm as Plokun from the Gates of Oblivion event mentioned going there.
the Nords from the Disquiet Study delve quest also mention it.

Skingrad - wine - Sanguine

I think Ithelia's realm would be more probable, though.

Elsonso · January 10

LunaFlora wrote: »

and if we get a daedric realm again this year it could be anywhere.
maybe ithelia's realm? i think 2025 after we've actually met her makes more sense, but possible.

maybe Sanguine's realm as Plokun from the Gates of Oblivion event mentioned going there.
the Nords from the Disquiet Study delve quest also mention it.

True, but I think we can rule out Deadlands, Coldharbour, and Apocrypha. If we go to any of those realms, it will be a small new area or existing places.

They said that the story for 2024 would extend 2023, and so that is why I suggested Peryite. We were more engaged with Vaermina, but she is a character that we have already interacted with in other stories. We have been to small areas of Quagmire, and honestly, I can live for a long time before needing to going back. I am not a big Vaermina fan.

As for Ithelia, there are possible outcomes to consider. ZOS invented new lore and they can go anywhere they want. However, for the purpose of continuity with previous games, I would hope they temper this and not try to create a new Big Bad. That comes with contradictions that poor Scruut would have to clean up.

The_Saint · January 10

I dont know if i want to interupt Lyris and Sai in there honeymoon in Skingrad

RaddlemanNumber7 · January 10

The_Saint wrote: »

I dont know if i want to interupt Lyris and Sai in there honeymoon in Skingrad

For the 10th anniversary I hope we'll be seeing all the 5 companions in some form or another.

ArchangelIsraphel · January 10

Lugaldu wrote: »

The neck collar, which was first interpreted as a musical instrument, is reminiscent of the neck collars worn by some Golden Saints. We meet them in Fargrave, but where do we meet them too? On the Shivering Isles of course! And if we go to Skingrad, it's not far to Bravil, where we know there is a portal (or will be one time)...

We also encounter the Golden Saints in one of the public dungeons in the Necrom chapter. They are also scattered across Cyrodiil at various points along roadways.

I like the idea of getting Skingrad and Bravil- I do hope you're right. As a huge fan of Cyrodiil I've been craving some more lore in that regard.

(As a side note- I REALLY really hope that stained glass window becomes an antiquity or a collectable in game. I need it.)

SpacemanSpiff1 · January 10

Lugaldu wrote: »

The neck collar, which was first interpreted as a musical instrument, is reminiscent of the neck collars worn by some Golden Saints. We meet them in Fargrave, but where do we meet them too? On the Shivering Isles of course! And if we go to Skingrad, it's not far to Bravil, where we know there is a portal (or will be one time)...

that's the Silken Ring cuirass (along with silken ring shoulders and divine prosecution helmet)

Muizer · January 10

Well for me everything is fine as long as it doesn't have Sheogorath in it. I mean I know he's supposed to be an irritating sob whose laughing at his own poor jokes is agonizing and I actually like Ricky Gervaise in "The Office", but ZOS sheogorath takes it to a level where it actually becomes infuriating.

lillybit · January 10

RaddlemanNumber7 wrote: »

The_Saint wrote: »

I dont know if i want to interupt Lyris and Sai in there honeymoon in Skingrad

For the 10th anniversary I hope we'll be seeing all the 5 companions in some form or another.

I really hope the don't bring back the prophet - if they get a new voice actor in they'll most likely redo all the old dialogue too and that would make me cry 😢

MrCray78 · January 10

Syldras wrote: »

Animar111 wrote: »

It’s definitely mage related I would say, spell crafting may play a part.
Maybe the stained glass represents a combination of some sort like a spell crafting source pool centred.
And the tree looks like the Skyrim symbol Breathing water which leads me to believe they may introduce water magic skill line.
They are all rotating a centre piece which to me means combine each spell to make your own.
That’s which leads me to believe spell crafting especially with the other symbols.
Hero or villain maybe water based origin

So, what spell do I get if I combine Hermaeus Mora, a lamp and the Skingrad crest? "Summon blood-sucking tentacled lamp"?

Don't tell me it wouldn't be terrifying to get such a thing thrown at your face!

Lamp is for "The Order of The Lamp"
HermaMora is for him
And Skingrad Crest is for Skingrad 🐱🐱🐱

Elsonso · January 10

MrCray78 wrote: »

Syldras wrote: »

Animar111 wrote: »

It’s definitely mage related I would say, spell crafting may play a part.
Maybe the stained glass represents a combination of some sort like a spell crafting source pool centred.
And the tree looks like the Skyrim symbol Breathing water which leads me to believe they may introduce water magic skill line.
They are all rotating a centre piece which to me means combine each spell to make your own.
That’s which leads me to believe spell crafting especially with the other symbols.
Hero or villain maybe water based origin

So, what spell do I get if I combine Hermaeus Mora, a lamp and the Skingrad crest? "Summon blood-sucking tentacled lamp"?

Don't tell me it wouldn't be terrifying to get such a thing thrown at your face!

Lamp is for "The Order of The Lamp"
HermaMora is for him
And Skingrad Crest is for Skingrad 🐱🐱🐱

I hope that they are not going to be using a common lantern as a symbol for the Order of the Lamp.

Wolf_Eye · January 10

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LunaFlora wrote: »

maybe Sanguine's realm as Plokun from the Gates of Oblivion event mentioned going there.
the Nords from the Disquiet Study delve quest also mention it.

I really really want to go to Partyland.

Everybody, let's all go to Partyland. It will be fun.

There will be booze. And food. And terrible death more booze. And Skooma.

And terrifying addictions that trap you forever in Sanguine's realm did I mention more booze?

Seriously, even though Sanguine doesn't seem particularly interested in "taking over the world" or "destroying the world" or any of the other grandiose ideas that some other Princes have, I still maintain that his realm would still have some interesting stories to be told. They would just probably be on a more personal level, and not an "end of the world" level.

And as the Prince of Temptations, those temptations may not necessarily be limited to "traditional" ones (booze/skooma/etc), but could also be something like "Try to not be tempted into mass murdering a village all because you're a werewolf". Sanguine is about ALL impulses and temptations, even the "unconventional" ones.

Syldras · January 10

MrCray78 wrote: »

Lamp is for "The Order of The Lamp"
HermaMora is for him
And Skingrad Crest is for Skingrad 🐱🐱🐱

Do I have to mark jokes as jokes from now on?

Elsonso wrote: »

I hope that they are not going to be using a common lantern as a symbol for the Order of the Lamp.

Would an uncommon lantern be sufficient?

Elsonso · January 10

Syldras wrote: »

MrCray78 wrote: »

Lamp is for "The Order of The Lamp"
HermaMora is for him
And Skingrad Crest is for Skingrad 🐱🐱🐱

Do I have to mark jokes as jokes from now on?

Elsonso wrote: »

I hope that they are not going to be using a common lantern as a symbol for the Order of the Lamp.

Would an uncommon lantern be sufficient?

I think so. Common is just so, every day.

zaria · January 10

LunaFlora wrote: »

Lugaldu wrote: »

The neck collar, which was first interpreted as a musical instrument, is reminiscent of the neck collars worn by some Golden Saints. We meet them in Fargrave, but where do we meet them too? On the Shivering Isles of course! And if we go to Skingrad, it's not far to Bravil, where we know there is a portal (or will be one time)...

skingrad is actually quite far from Bravil, in eso.
Bravil is in Nibenay and is technically in the current Cyrodiil zone.
though it could be in a future Nibenay zone north of Blackwood.

Skingrad would be in the western unreleased zone and Bravil in the eastern unreleased zone.

edit to add:
we'll probably only get one zone in cyrodiil instead of two this year.

Bravil is on the Cyrodil map just west of the AD gate of Mnem.
Now its a bit of an unfair position for an PvP area as its so inside AD zone, looks like the only entrance would be behind gate of Mnem. Yes You have Corrol and Cheydinhal but they are not so far inside zones.

Billium813 · January 10

Bear we me on this... what if you view the image in 3 dimensions rather then a flat image?

Fargrave is called the Celestial Palanquin; which is just a fancy way of calling it a conduit, or transport vessel. If you stand everything up, it looks like sides of the inner circle form the side of a carriage. The 4 trees also take place as palanquin carriers, one at each post (4 seasons?). And at either end there are the Fargrave portals, connected to two Daedric Lords at one end. At the sides of the palanquin are Skingrad and the Mage's Guild; observers connected to the Falinesti, referenced by the seasonal trees and Valenwood.

It seems like some sort of conduit between Mephala and Hermaeus Mora are going to use Falinesti as a conduit to attack the other side. And Skingrad and the Mage's Guild caught between, possibly trying to stop it having sway over the Falinesti in Tamriel, that prop up the Fargrave conduit.

I just wish I could figure out the other 2 symbols. I KNOW I've seen the spade shaped, lattice symbol somewhere...