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ACCOUNT WIDE ACHIEVEMENTS AND TITLES

  • Chaos2088
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    If we did get this, would want an account wide one and a character one.
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  • Septimus_Magna
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    Gamingdays wrote: »
    Simply no. I worked hard to get true genius on my sorc and as much as a pain it was to get it I don’t want the achievement devalued by just being able to put it on any toon. I could make a new toon and it suddenly has the title. It would just simply devalue it.

    Achievements and titles can be a separate thing, I agree titles should be reserved for just the characters that actually obtained the achievement.

    Killing X amount of monsters in dungeon Y or monster trophies could easily be account-wide.
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    Septimus Mezar - Altmer Sorcerer
    Septimus Rulanir - Orsimer Templar
    Septimus Desmoru - Khajiit Necromancer
    Septimus Iroh - Dunmer Dragon Knight
    Septimus Thragar - Dunmer Nightblade
    Septimus Jah'zar - Khajiit Nightblade
    Septimus Nerox - Redguard Warden
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  • Fischblut
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    A unique Soul Gem in the character selection screen that holds your account achievements with the optional ability to be placed on any character prior to loading into the game.

    I love this idea! :)

    As for my own suggestions, I would simply love to have all achievements account-wide, including titles.
    Or, at least let us purchase titles for our alts same as we can purchase skyshards. For example, if my one character has unlocked "Chaos Keeper" title, I should be able to officially buy this title for any of my other characters.

    The only reason why having alts is useful in ESO: crafting dailies (and all other dailies). In all other cases, playing many characters is wasted effort :/ If we think about achievements, alts currently don't contribute to the same goal.

    When I play GW2, every little thing I do on any character contributes to every achievement progress. I never think "which character should I play? Has he made progress in my needed achievement?" I simply play whatever character is in my mood, and don't worry about anything.
    In ESO, if I want some achievement, I need to think which of my characters has the most progress for that achievement. No matter if I'm in the mood of playing other character :'( It leads to mental pressure.

    I never do same achievement (those which reward skins and titles) on more than one character. If I got any dungeon trifecta on alt, neither my main character nor any other alt will go to that dungeon ever again :|
    One of my characters has no use for most of titles which she earned. But many of my alts would love to use those titles :/
    Ability to purchase titles after unlocking them would solve at least part of this problem <3
    interesting to see all the character, player skill mentions considering none whatsoever is really needed in a reality where you can buy carries for pretty much anything..

    Agree! These offers are widespread in every zone in game. When I see somebody with trial skin/title/mount, I never know how that person earned it. By gold or skill?
  • ApoAlaia
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    Personally I don't feel strongly about the achievements at all. I really don't mind either way. They make them account wide (along with motifs etc), fine. They leave it as it is? Fine too.

    The only thing that ground my gears was having to do the horse 'training' per character for six months and I am done with that in all 18 of them now so they can do as they effing please; however personally, even though it is no skin off my nose anymore, I think if that was gone yesterday it would be 5 years too late.
    Edited by ApoAlaia on April 29, 2021 10:24AM
  • Elsonso
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    remosito wrote: »
    JoDiMageio wrote: »
    That is a nope from me.

    I do not consider earning a title on my Warden healer being in any way equivalent to earning it on my Sorc DD or on my Argonian tank. Yes I and my teammates earned it, but it requires different skills, abilities, mindset, etc. for each toon you play.

    @JoDiMageio

    so if you respecc your warden healer to tank or dd you should loose the titles and achievements? In the end it requires different skills abilities, mindset.. and difference between healer on different classes is one trillion time smaller than those required to do it on same class but different roles...

    No. That is not how it works. This argument is a red herring. Changing a character's job does not change the character.

    Changing roles is nothing. The bigger question is whether ZOS should have even allowed Alliance, Race, Appearance, and Name changes without zeroing out related titles and achievements in the process.
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  • JoDiMageio
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    remosito wrote: »
    JoDiMageio wrote: »
    That is a nope from me.

    I do not consider earning a title on my Warden healer being in any way equivalent to earning it on my Sorc DD or on my Argonian tank. Yes I and my teammates earned it, but it requires different skills, abilities, mindset, etc. for each toon you play.

    @JoDiMageio

    so if you respecc your warden healer to tank or dd you should loose the titles and achievements? In the end it requires different skills abilities, mindset.. and difference between healer on different classes is one trillion time smaller than those required to do it on same class but different roles...

    @remosito

    While I understand what you are saying, this is a moot point. As @Elsonso stated, your argument is a red herring. The question is whether an achievement/title should be account-wide.

    That being said, I will still indulge an answer because why the heck not? With regards to your comment, personally, and this is simply my own feelings about the situation, whilst removing an achievement or title if you respec your toon would, indeed, be ridiculous, I would not feel like I earned the title, even on the same but respec-ed character, until I could complete the content again with the new configuration. I earned it as a warden healer, not a DD, not a tank.
    Edited by JoDiMageio on April 29, 2021 12:46PM
  • jle30303
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    Thing is, there are already some titles that go account-wide: the property titles (Lord, Lady, Count, etc.) for owning certain prestige properties. That is, the properties are account-wide, so any character on that account can visit that property to gain that title.

    And the achievements for decorating properties with certain numbers of certain types of furniture.

    I think that SOME things should be account-wide, and SOME things should be character-specific.

    Titles from clearing a particular dungeon in a certain way (e.g. Godslayer)? Character-specific. Even if that character has changed skills, CP and role, it's still the same *character*, another character should have to do the achievement again. Various other rewards such as skins that can be achieved the same way are already account-wide: keep the titles, at least, character-specific.

    There are some Holiday Event achievements, however, that either (a) should not be Achievements at all, or (b) should be account-wide, since only one toon can actually get them:

    - Jester's Festival Joke Popper (grants a Memento, which can only be granted once.)
    - Festive Noise Maker (grants a Memento, which can only be granted once).
    - Bare Bones Puppet (grants a Memento, which can only be granted once).

    In the case of the Bare Bones Puppet and its Skeletal Marionette, the current situation is doubly awful because it is impossible to even *acquire* the relevant parts once you already have the Marionette, since they changed from being tradable to being bound-on-acquisition, and they cannot even be generated by a person who has the Marionette. And since you can't ever get them on a second toon, you can't ever use them on a second toon.

    In the case of the other two, the recent Jester's festival showed them to be outrageously rare (while other stuff, that could do with being rarer, was waaaay too common. Certain pieces of Furniture, for example.)
  • Sirona_Starr
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    So, I would hope all the people that are against account-wide achievements don't use account-wide cp, right? Otherwise, if you do, it's pretty hypocritical, to my way of thinking. Or account-wide mementos, dyes, etc.
    Edited by Sirona_Starr on April 29, 2021 1:23PM
  • Agenericname
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    JoDiMageio wrote: »
    remosito wrote: »
    JoDiMageio wrote: »
    That is a nope from me.

    I do not consider earning a title on my Warden healer being in any way equivalent to earning it on my Sorc DD or on my Argonian tank. Yes I and my teammates earned it, but it requires different skills, abilities, mindset, etc. for each toon you play.

    @JoDiMageio

    so if you respecc your warden healer to tank or dd you should loose the titles and achievements? In the end it requires different skills abilities, mindset.. and difference between healer on different classes is one trillion time smaller than those required to do it on same class but different roles...

    @remosito

    While I understand what you are saying, this is a moot point. As @Elsonso stated, your argument is a red herring. The question is whether an achievement/title should be account-wide.

    That being said, I will still indulge an answer because why the heck not? With regards to your comment, personally, and this is simply my own feelings about the situation, whilst removing an achievement or title if you respec your toon would, indeed, be ridiculous, I would not feel like I earned the title, even on the same but respec-ed character, until I could complete the content again with the new configuration. I earned it as a warden healer, not a DD, not a tank.

    PvP and arenas often utilize different skills and abilities than group PvE. You can tank vCR and then run vMA. Your Flawless Conq or Stormproof would have still been earned and a valid achievement even though you most likely respec'd to run it. Or you didnt, you're just a beast, and the conjecture of us mortals doesnt mean much to you anyway. They're all abilities within the tool kit of that character. I dont think that simply because its not the same spec that it wasnt earned.

    I'm not sure how I feel about account wide achievements. Id like to be able to see them, and I understand the debate from the trial trifecta perspective.
  • Diva_Naoko
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    Sidonius wrote: »
    Oh yeah cool and if this happens I want all my titles, achievements and champion points added to my alt accounts with the same argument that I as the player have earned them.

    Same for over on the EU server.

    I don't understand. Is this sarcasm? You already have all your champion points on all your alts; you only need to allocate them. Champion points are account wide. The OP is asking for titles and achievements to become account wide. I agree with OP.

    Also, some are arguing that account wide achievements would make alts useless. I don't think so. For example, stealth and justice achievements, including many from TG and DB are easier done on an purposely built and spec'd alt, unless your main is a NB thief/murderer from the start. Alts can specialise on certain aspects of dlc content and all contribute for the overall acc achievements. Having to build an alt for practice and then going in with the main for the achievement is twice the work.
  • Elsonso
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    So, I would hope all the people that are against account-wide achievements don't use account-wide cp, right? Otherwise, if you do, it's pretty hypocritical, to my way of thinking.

    Sadly, there isn't much choice. It is impossible to separate the CP of the characters in the Champion System. If you have three glasses of water, and pour them into a bucket, you cannot separate the water back into the three glasses that they came from.

    We can rally against changes we don't want before they become part of the game. Once they become part of the game, the time of rallying against them seems to be over. All that can be done is to rally against the next change on the same slippery slope.

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  • JoDiMageio
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    JoDiMageio wrote: »
    remosito wrote: »
    JoDiMageio wrote: »
    That is a nope from me.

    I do not consider earning a title on my Warden healer being in any way equivalent to earning it on my Sorc DD or on my Argonian tank. Yes I and my teammates earned it, but it requires different skills, abilities, mindset, etc. for each toon you play.

    @JoDiMageio

    so if you respecc your warden healer to tank or dd you should loose the titles and achievements? In the end it requires different skills abilities, mindset.. and difference between healer on different classes is one trillion time smaller than those required to do it on same class but different roles...

    @remosito

    While I understand what you are saying, this is a moot point. As @Elsonso stated, your argument is a red herring. The question is whether an achievement/title should be account-wide.

    That being said, I will still indulge an answer because why the heck not? With regards to your comment, personally, and this is simply my own feelings about the situation, whilst removing an achievement or title if you respec your toon would, indeed, be ridiculous, I would not feel like I earned the title, even on the same but respec-ed character, until I could complete the content again with the new configuration. I earned it as a warden healer, not a DD, not a tank.

    PvP and arenas often utilize different skills and abilities than group PvE. You can tank vCR and then run vMA. Your Flawless Conq or Stormproof would have still been earned and a valid achievement even though you most likely respec'd to run it. Or you didnt, you're just a beast, and the conjecture of us mortals doesnt mean much to you anyway. They're all abilities within the tool kit of that character. I dont think that simply because its not the same spec that it wasnt earned.

    I'm not sure how I feel about account wide achievements. Id like to be able to see them, and I understand the debate from the trial trifecta perspective.


    I think I might have been misunderstood. Different achievements with different specs on the same toon is not the issue for me - finishing vMA on a healer or tank build is not exactly setting yourself up for success (and comparing solo achievements to group achievements is apples and oranges, imo). It was a comment about the same (group) title but respecced, which didn't even talk to my original point in the first place (my bad for addressing the red herring).

    My (original) point is - if I earn Godslayer on my Warden healer, then no, I don't think that other toons should be able to wear the title, regardless of class or role. I earned it as a Warden healer. But that's just how I feel about it :)
  • tmbrinks
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    Lots of people stating opinions as facts, and telling everybody who doesn't agree with their opinion that "you're wrong!"

    Definitely not going to convince anybody to change their mind that way...

    Considering none of the other 2 million threads on the same topic have changed anything either...

    This game decided to go with character-based achievements. Other games have gone with account-based achievements. It is what it is. No amount of belittling and yelling at each other is going to change that.
    Tenacious Dreamer - Hurricane Herald - Godslayer - Dawnbringer - Gryphon Heart - Tick Tock Tormenter - Immortal Redeemer - Dro-m'Athra Destroyer
    The Unchained - Oathsworn - Bedlam's Disciple - Temporal Tempest - Curator's Champion - Fist of Tava - Invader's Bane - Land, Air, and Sea Supremacy - Zero Regrets - Battlespire's Best - Bastion Breaker - Ardent Bibliophile - Subterranean Smasher - Bane of Thorns - True Genius - In Defiance of Death - No Rest for the Wicked - Nature's Wrath - Undying Endurance - Relentless Raider - Depths Defier - Apex Predator - Pure Lunacy - Mountain God - Leave No Bone Unbroken - CoS/RoM/BF/FH Challenger
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  • remosito
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    Elsonso wrote: »
    remosito wrote: »
    JoDiMageio wrote: »
    That is a nope from me.

    I do not consider earning a title on my Warden healer being in any way equivalent to earning it on my Sorc DD or on my Argonian tank. Yes I and my teammates earned it, but it requires different skills, abilities, mindset, etc. for each toon you play.

    @JoDiMageio

    so if you respecc your warden healer to tank or dd you should loose the titles and achievements? In the end it requires different skills abilities, mindset.. and difference between healer on different classes is one trillion time smaller than those required to do it on same class but different roles...

    No. That is not how it works. This argument is a red herring. Changing a character's job does not change the character.

    Changing roles is nothing. The bigger question is whether ZOS should have even allowed Alliance, Race, Appearance, and Name changes without zeroing out related titles and achievements in the process.

    not a red herring at all. just applying posters argumentation to case of specc change and see if he is consistent.

    and he actually is. hat off. consistent this way is rare.
    ShutYerTrap (selectively mute NPC dialogues (stuga, companions); displayleads (antiquity leads location); UndauntedPledgeQueuer (small daily undaunted dungeon queuer window)
  • remosito
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    JoDiMageio wrote: »
    JoDiMageio wrote: »
    remosito wrote: »
    JoDiMageio wrote: »
    That is a nope from me.

    I do not consider earning a title on my Warden healer being in any way equivalent to earning it on my Sorc DD or on my Argonian tank. Yes I and my teammates earned it, but it requires different skills, abilities, mindset, etc. for each toon you play.

    @JoDiMageio

    so if you respecc your warden healer to tank or dd you should loose the titles and achievements? In the end it requires different skills abilities, mindset.. and difference between healer on different classes is one trillion time smaller than those required to do it on same class but different roles...

    @remosito

    While I understand what you are saying, this is a moot point. As @Elsonso stated, your argument is a red herring. The question is whether an achievement/title should be account-wide.

    That being said, I will still indulge an answer because why the heck not? With regards to your comment, personally, and this is simply my own feelings about the situation, whilst removing an achievement or title if you respec your toon would, indeed, be ridiculous, I would not feel like I earned the title, even on the same but respec-ed character, until I could complete the content again with the new configuration. I earned it as a warden healer, not a DD, not a tank.

    PvP and arenas often utilize different skills and abilities than group PvE. You can tank vCR and then run vMA. Your Flawless Conq or Stormproof would have still been earned and a valid achievement even though you most likely respec'd to run it. Or you didnt, you're just a beast, and the conjecture of us mortals doesnt mean much to you anyway. They're all abilities within the tool kit of that character. I dont think that simply because its not the same spec that it wasnt earned.

    I'm not sure how I feel about account wide achievements. Id like to be able to see them, and I understand the debate from the trial trifecta perspective.


    I think I might have been misunderstood. Different achievements with different specs on the same toon is not the issue for me - finishing vMA on a healer or tank build is not exactly setting yourself up for success (and comparing solo achievements to group achievements is apples and oranges, imo). It was a comment about the same (group) title but respecced, which didn't even talk to my original point in the first place (my bad for addressing the red herring).

    My (original) point is - if I earn Godslayer on my Warden healer, then no, I don't think that other toons should be able to wear the title, regardless of class or role. I earned it as a Warden healer. But that's just how I feel about it :)

    hats off. consistent like that seems rare.

    this is all just how we feel about it. it's not like there is an objective truth, right/wrong to it.

    I have my accumulated accountwide achievements overview and points. thanks to an addon i modified. all i ever wanted. dont care about titles...
    ShutYerTrap (selectively mute NPC dialogues (stuga, companions); displayleads (antiquity leads location); UndauntedPledgeQueuer (small daily undaunted dungeon queuer window)
  • JoDiMageio
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    remosito wrote: »
    JoDiMageio wrote: »
    JoDiMageio wrote: »
    remosito wrote: »
    JoDiMageio wrote: »
    That is a nope from me.

    I do not consider earning a title on my Warden healer being in any way equivalent to earning it on my Sorc DD or on my Argonian tank. Yes I and my teammates earned it, but it requires different skills, abilities, mindset, etc. for each toon you play.

    @JoDiMageio

    so if you respecc your warden healer to tank or dd you should loose the titles and achievements? In the end it requires different skills abilities, mindset.. and difference between healer on different classes is one trillion time smaller than those required to do it on same class but different roles...

    @remosito

    While I understand what you are saying, this is a moot point. As @Elsonso stated, your argument is a red herring. The question is whether an achievement/title should be account-wide.

    That being said, I will still indulge an answer because why the heck not? With regards to your comment, personally, and this is simply my own feelings about the situation, whilst removing an achievement or title if you respec your toon would, indeed, be ridiculous, I would not feel like I earned the title, even on the same but respec-ed character, until I could complete the content again with the new configuration. I earned it as a warden healer, not a DD, not a tank.

    PvP and arenas often utilize different skills and abilities than group PvE. You can tank vCR and then run vMA. Your Flawless Conq or Stormproof would have still been earned and a valid achievement even though you most likely respec'd to run it. Or you didnt, you're just a beast, and the conjecture of us mortals doesnt mean much to you anyway. They're all abilities within the tool kit of that character. I dont think that simply because its not the same spec that it wasnt earned.

    I'm not sure how I feel about account wide achievements. Id like to be able to see them, and I understand the debate from the trial trifecta perspective.


    I think I might have been misunderstood. Different achievements with different specs on the same toon is not the issue for me - finishing vMA on a healer or tank build is not exactly setting yourself up for success (and comparing solo achievements to group achievements is apples and oranges, imo). It was a comment about the same (group) title but respecced, which didn't even talk to my original point in the first place (my bad for addressing the red herring).

    My (original) point is - if I earn Godslayer on my Warden healer, then no, I don't think that other toons should be able to wear the title, regardless of class or role. I earned it as a Warden healer. But that's just how I feel about it :)

    hats off. consistent like that seems rare.

    this is all just how we feel about it. it's not like there is an objective truth, right/wrong to it.

    I have my accumulated accountwide achievements overview and points. thanks to an addon i modified. all i ever wanted. dont care about titles...

    Thanks!

    As a side note, I don't care about titles, either. Unless they fit with the RP back story I have for my toon. :) It's the principle here that I think is important.
  • Hallothiel
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    Kwoung wrote: »
    Gamingdays wrote: »
    Simply no. I worked hard to get true genius on my sorc and as much as a pain it was to get it I don’t want the achievement devalued by just being able to put it on any toon. I could make a new toon and it suddenly has the title. It would just simply devalue it.

    That seems an odd way of looking at it, since you are the one that earned the achievement, not the toon.

    Nope. Was me + whatever toon got the achievement.
    Done vMoL on my main stamblade, now working towards getting same title for sorc. But would not be anywhere near able to attempt that on my magcro, or stamdk. Different characters with different abilities & skills I have had to ‘master’ (or am in process of doing so)
    Really would hate having achievements account wide. Would actually make them rather pointless.
  • Hallothiel
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    remosito wrote: »
    interesting to see all the character, player skill mentions considering none whatsoever is really needed in a reality where you can buy carries for pretty much anything..

    Not everyone does this, you know. Some like to get there the old fashioned way.
  • AlnilamE
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    Ceejengine wrote: »
    I'd like to see it. I have yet to see an argument against it that has any merit.

    "I earned the title on my main, if my alt had the title it would be devalued. " negative. Accounts that aren't good enough to earn true genius don't have true genius. If it's an RP thing, then don't use the title and don't force your RP on me.

    "I earned it on x character that requires different abilities and mindset. " It doesn't. If you're good enough to get a title on one class, you can get it on another.

    "If account achievements become account wide then I want my achieves on all my alt accounts." Comparing apples to oranges. Also, with this logic, why stop at achieves? How about that account wide bank? Should they remove that? Or account wide craft bag? Or dye unlocks? Or motif unlocks? Mount unlocks? Assistant unlocks? Or the actual real progress, account wide CP? Should players actually be required to grind CP on each individual character?

    Like actual, game-affecting stuff is account wide. If you're against achievements then by that logic we shouldn't have anything account wide.

    And I can promise you if half those things go, you'll see players skiddaddling in droves.

    One of my favorite things about the game is I can have 1 dude that I gather stuff on, and then my alts get to play around with those toys.

    "The player and the character are two separate entities. It requires effort from both to unlock achievements." Nope, my guy won't even move unless I make him. Those clutch heals he does? 100% me. His perfect timing w/ shields, rolls & blocks? Also all me.

    "If achievements were account wide, I wouldn't have character- specific records of which char did which achievement." Says who? They can add a "completed by x on x." You could even tab your alts for credit in redoing the achievements.

    "I want to repeat achieves." See above.

    Well, if it's all you, you can earn any achievement on any character, right? So just pick and "achiever" and play that one until the achievements are earned.

    Your last two arguments are entirely dependent on how the system is set up.

    GW2, for example, doesn't track who did what, except for achievements that are class specific, so to get them all you need to complete them on every class.

    So ZOS could create a Tik-Tok Tormentor (and others) achievement for every class, and then create a "master achievement" for when you get it at least once on each class.
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  • Nirntrotter
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    Keep the rewards character bound, but an account wide achiev overview would be so, so helpful. Please ZOS release me from my DK prison :s
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  • tmbrinks
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    Keep the rewards character bound, but an account wide achiev overview would be so, so helpful. Please ZOS release me from my DK prison :s

    Your signature indicates you're on PC.

    Kyoma's Global Achievements will do this.
    Tenacious Dreamer - Hurricane Herald - Godslayer - Dawnbringer - Gryphon Heart - Tick Tock Tormenter - Immortal Redeemer - Dro-m'Athra Destroyer
    The Unchained - Oathsworn - Bedlam's Disciple - Temporal Tempest - Curator's Champion - Fist of Tava - Invader's Bane - Land, Air, and Sea Supremacy - Zero Regrets - Battlespire's Best - Bastion Breaker - Ardent Bibliophile - Subterranean Smasher - Bane of Thorns - True Genius - In Defiance of Death - No Rest for the Wicked - Nature's Wrath - Undying Endurance - Relentless Raider - Depths Defier - Apex Predator - Pure Lunacy - Mountain God - Leave No Bone Unbroken - CoS/RoM/BF/FH Challenger
    65,385 achievement points
  • AlnilamE
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    Keep the rewards character bound, but an account wide achiev overview would be so, so helpful. Please ZOS release me from my DK prison :s

    Honestly, I'd rather they introduce class change tokens before they create account-wide achievements, outside of an overview like the PC addon allows for. I'm ok with that.
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    Sidonius wrote: »
    Oh yeah cool and if this happens I want all my titles, achievements and champion points added to my alt accounts with the same argument that I as the player have earned them.

    Same for over on the EU server.

    I don't understand. Is this sarcasm? You already have all your champion points on all your alts; you only need to allocate them. Champion points are account wide. The OP is asking for titles and achievements to become account wide. I agree with OP.

    Also, some are arguing that account wide achievements would make alts useless. I don't think so. For example, stealth and justice achievements, including many from TG and DB are easier done on an purposely built and spec'd alt, unless your main is a NB thief/murderer from the start. Alts can specialise on certain aspects of dlc content and all contribute for the overall acc achievements. Having to build an alt for practice and then going in with the main for the achievement is twice the work.

    They meant alt ACCOUNTS, not alt characters.

    Some players have multiple accounts for a variety of reasons, like wanting to have more characters.
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    The only reason why having alts is useful in ESO: crafting dailies (and all other dailies). In all other cases, playing many characters is wasted effort :/ If we think about achievements, alts currently don't contribute to the same goal.

    Totally and fundamentally disagree with this.

    I have 18 characters. Play them all; some more than others, some I am more proficient on than others, but do play them all. Stops things becoming dull. They are not just there to do dailies.

    And whilst my main generally has all the achievements, the alts don’t, because I haven’t done those achievements on that character. And I prefer it that way.
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    n3fieu wrote: »
    I mean is it really that hard? Hey thanks for spending X amount of hours grinding this tedious thing for this tedious title. Now do it 7 more times.

    Oh boy, oh boy... why didn't you listen to Sir Cadwell? He make it quite clear, that everytime you are starting a new adventure in Tamriel, nobody remembers what your achievements were... ;)
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    Fischblut wrote: »
    A unique Soul Gem in the character selection screen that holds your account achievements with the optional ability to be placed on any character prior to loading into the game.

    I love this idea! :)

    As for my own suggestions, I would simply love to have all achievements account-wide, including titles.
    Or, at least let us purchase titles for our alts same as we can purchase skyshards. For example, if my one character has unlocked "Chaos Keeper" title, I should be able to officially buy this title for any of my other characters.

    The only reason why having alts is useful in ESO: crafting dailies (and all other dailies). In all other cases, playing many characters is wasted effort :/ If we think about achievements, alts currently don't contribute to the same goal.

    When I play GW2, every little thing I do on any character contributes to every achievement progress. I never think "which character should I play? Has he made progress in my needed achievement?" I simply play whatever character is in my mood, and don't worry about anything.
    In ESO, if I want some achievement, I need to think which of my characters has the most progress for that achievement. No matter if I'm in the mood of playing other character :'( It leads to mental pressure.

    I never do same achievement (those which reward skins and titles) on more than one character. If I got any dungeon trifecta on alt, neither my main character nor any other alt will go to that dungeon ever again :|
    One of my characters has no use for most of titles which she earned. But many of my alts would love to use those titles :/
    Ability to purchase titles after unlocking them would solve at least part of this problem <3
    interesting to see all the character, player skill mentions considering none whatsoever is really needed in a reality where you can buy carries for pretty much anything..

    Agree! These offers are widespread in every zone in game. When I see somebody with trial skin/title/mount, I never know how that person earned it. By gold or skill?

    Thank you, & yes GW2 is great like that.
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    Wolfpaw wrote: »
    Fischblut wrote: »
    A unique Soul Gem in the character selection screen that holds your account achievements with the optional ability to be placed on any character prior to loading into the game.

    I love this idea! :)

    As for my own suggestions, I would simply love to have all achievements account-wide, including titles.
    Or, at least let us purchase titles for our alts same as we can purchase skyshards. For example, if my one character has unlocked "Chaos Keeper" title, I should be able to officially buy this title for any of my other characters.

    The only reason why having alts is useful in ESO: crafting dailies (and all other dailies). In all other cases, playing many characters is wasted effort :/ If we think about achievements, alts currently don't contribute to the same goal.

    When I play GW2, every little thing I do on any character contributes to every achievement progress. I never think "which character should I play? Has he made progress in my needed achievement?" I simply play whatever character is in my mood, and don't worry about anything.
    In ESO, if I want some achievement, I need to think which of my characters has the most progress for that achievement. No matter if I'm in the mood of playing other character :'( It leads to mental pressure.

    I never do same achievement (those which reward skins and titles) on more than one character. If I got any dungeon trifecta on alt, neither my main character nor any other alt will go to that dungeon ever again :|
    One of my characters has no use for most of titles which she earned. But many of my alts would love to use those titles :/
    Ability to purchase titles after unlocking them would solve at least part of this problem <3
    interesting to see all the character, player skill mentions considering none whatsoever is really needed in a reality where you can buy carries for pretty much anything..

    Agree! These offers are widespread in every zone in game. When I see somebody with trial skin/title/mount, I never know how that person earned it. By gold or skill?

    Thank you, & yes GW2 is great like that.

    GW2 has an insane amount of achievements though. Every time I start looking at them I get PTSD and nope right out of that bs.
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    AlnilamE wrote: »
    An account overview would be ok.

    But I want to be able to repeat achievements on alts. Otherwise, what's the point of alts?

    Also, consider that in games that have account-wide achievements, like GW2, the achievements are A LOT more grindy.

    So if you think looting 1000 chests took a long time, you'd be looking at 10k or even 50k.

    Killing 100 atronachs in vet CoA2? Make that 1000 now.

    Because whether it's repeating the achievement on an alt or making it harder on your account, they will keep you playing.

    I agree with all of that, plus there are some achievements that I don't want on all my characters. For example, I don't want my lawful good templar landed with Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood achievements just because my nightblade assassin earned them.

    I understand why those who play "a main plus alt toons" want to rush from the character creation screen to fully levelled, geared and skilled status on the alts via the Alik'r dolmen and the Crown Store purely for what they consider to be endgame, but very many players have "multiple characters" they play fully as equal individuals throughout what they consider to be a role-playing game and for them account-wide achievements would be terrible.

    As for titles, it's more generally accepted that they are earned by individual characters although there are still a few players who think that if they've topped a leaderboard etc with a character from one class it should be presented as if they've also done it with characters of other classes. I don't agree.

    I'm all in favour of an account overview that shows all the achievements and titles on the account and which characters have earned them.
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    tmbrinks wrote: »
    Keep the rewards character bound, but an account wide achiev overview would be so, so helpful. Please ZOS release me from my DK prison :s

    Your signature indicates you're on PC.

    Kyoma's Global Achievements will do this.

    I'm aware, but I would like an official version that includes the whole playersbase, even if anonymised by default. The fact that an addon developer could do it just reinforces that wish for me.
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    Just to add to my last post, if there was an account overview of achievements and titles then there would be scope for some additional account-based achievements and titles. For example, if one character has earned "Master Angler" then the other characters wouldn't have that title but the account overview would show which character had earned it. However, if say 8 or more characters on the account had earned "Master Angler" then the account would gain the title "Grandmaster Angler" and the 8 or more characters that had contributed to that title would be able to display it. That would provide an additional incentive to run achievements and titles on multiple characters with additional rewards for those who did so, without taking away anything from those who only wanted to run them on a single character.
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    I would go as far as implementing account profiles that we can earn badges/titles/whatever frills for. So much stuff is already tied to our @, might as well go the whole mile.
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