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ACCOUNT WIDE ACHIEVEMENTS AND TITLES
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gamma71✭✭✭✭We can buy sky shards from completions from are other chars why not titles? No way am I going to grind out another 5 star just for the title. I just want the option.
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Bobby's_UserID✭✭✭I think some achievements like black market mogul and the trophy achievements should be account wide.
Every title achievement like GS/GH/... should be character wide. You earned that on a specific char with a specific role, it doesn't mean you have that ability on another role (e.g. you earned GH on DPS, you might not be able to tank vCR+3, therefore you should't be able to show it on your tank until you've done it on tank).1 -
Thechuckage✭✭✭✭✭Ishtarknows wrote: »ZaroktheImmortal wrote: »Gamingdays wrote: »Simply no. I worked hard to get true genius on my sorc and as much as a pain it was to get it I don’t want the achievement devalued by just being able to put it on any toon. I could make a new toon and it suddenly has the title. It would just simply devalue it.
I don't see how it'd devalue it myself as you still earned said title I wouldn't be against this personally because the player who has it clearly earned it on at least one of their toons.
Some titles have greater status depending on what role you achieved them. A stack DD earning Bringer of Light (vcr+3) has a much easier job than a tank earning the same title. Being able to use the title on your baby tank that's only tanked normal trials for example gives a false impression of player ability in the role.
What happens when the DD from your scenario decides to make that character into a tank, with zero tanking experience? Player has earned it on that character, but not role.
The player in question would look like they had bought a carry, or explain that they had just respec'd with the same end result of being removed from group.2 -
Thechuckage✭✭✭✭✭Thechuckage wrote: »UGotBenched91 wrote: »I will never understand why people are against account-wide achievements. Why do you care if someone displays a title that they didn't get on that specific character? They still had to grind and work hard with a character to get that achievement.
A lot of this comes down to the fact that some players - perhaps predominantly from an action-based console background - believe everything is done by the player, while other players - perhaps predominantly from a RPG-based PC background - believe everything is done by the character. Another factor is that those who argue for account-wide achievements tend not to want to play their alts through normal progression but just have them instantly ready for "endgame", while those who argue for character-specific achievements want to play through the full game with their alts as equal characters.
Could you expound on the second half of that? Because I don't think anyone has asked for that. Or is asking for insta-50s.
This subject has been raised very many times, and a common theme is that people wanting account-wide achievements are levelling up alts to 50 in a few hours at e.g. dolmens in order to jump quickly to endgame but complain at the time it then takes to level up everything else that they feel they need, plus they don't want to have to repeat achievements which they've already done, so once one character has achieved something they want all the other characters to benefit automatically. Other players who are opposed to account-wide achievements aren't so concerned with endgame but want to progress all their characters individually through the game.
That was the point I was making, not that people are asking for insta-50s as such, they pretty much have that already. It's a quicker way of getting everything else that is the motivation for account-wide achievements and titles coupled with the desire not to repeat content they've already done - which conversely for many players is the whole point of having multiple characters.
Disagree with it being a common theme that powerlevelers are the majority of those who want account wide achieves.
Fail to see what leveling up all the other things they need (IE Fighters, Mages, Psijic guild etc etc) has to do with it. Players still have to complete tasks for skill unlocks. Have to level up skill lines. If you are imagining each account having all those guild lines unlock, all skill shards unlocked....that would be lunacy.
Some things just don't need repeating. Get killed by slaughterfish, kill 1000 skeletons, ghosts, zombies etcetcetc. Real game changers right there. /s5 -
Ceejengine✭✭✭Thechuckage wrote: »Ishtarknows wrote: »ZaroktheImmortal wrote: »Gamingdays wrote: »Simply no. I worked hard to get true genius on my sorc and as much as a pain it was to get it I don’t want the achievement devalued by just being able to put it on any toon. I could make a new toon and it suddenly has the title. It would just simply devalue it.
I don't see how it'd devalue it myself as you still earned said title I wouldn't be against this personally because the player who has it clearly earned it on at least one of their toons.
Some titles have greater status depending on what role you achieved them. A stack DD earning Bringer of Light (vcr+3) has a much easier job than a tank earning the same title. Being able to use the title on your baby tank that's only tanked normal trials for example gives a false impression of player ability in the role.
What happens when the DD from your scenario decides to make that character into a tank, with zero tanking experience? Player has earned it on that character, but not role.
The player in question would look like they had bought a carry, or explain that they had just respec'd with the same end result of being removed from group.
I can guarantee you that if you earn any prestigious title as a DPS then swap to tank, you at a bare minimum know the movements and mechanics.
I've cleared hard stuff on my NB tank, then swapped to magblade DPS and had 0 struggle with doing it again.
Any player doing hard content knows their class like the back of their hand. You have to do research to get to that point to know what foods, attributes, enchants, how to maximize benefits from passives, etc, all things you need to succeed.
Not to mention outside of group content 99% of high quality players run hybrid builds anyway, so they're aware of their damage abilities, where to get mitigation, and what heals work best for what they're doing.
This idea that going from DPS -> Tank / heals or backwards is a whole new world is just out of left field. Like to get True Genius or CR+3 or vet HM BRF you need to know every single mech for every single boss + trash pull no matter what role you're in.
The only major hurdle to swapping from one to the other for anyone who remotely tryhards at ESO is farming primo / meta gear. Which to me, at least, is one of the most fun aspects of the game.Edited by Ceejengine on April 30, 2021 4:38PM3 -
Tandor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Thechuckage wrote: »Thechuckage wrote: »UGotBenched91 wrote: »I will never understand why people are against account-wide achievements. Why do you care if someone displays a title that they didn't get on that specific character? They still had to grind and work hard with a character to get that achievement.
A lot of this comes down to the fact that some players - perhaps predominantly from an action-based console background - believe everything is done by the player, while other players - perhaps predominantly from a RPG-based PC background - believe everything is done by the character. Another factor is that those who argue for account-wide achievements tend not to want to play their alts through normal progression but just have them instantly ready for "endgame", while those who argue for character-specific achievements want to play through the full game with their alts as equal characters.
Could you expound on the second half of that? Because I don't think anyone has asked for that. Or is asking for insta-50s.
This subject has been raised very many times, and a common theme is that people wanting account-wide achievements are levelling up alts to 50 in a few hours at e.g. dolmens in order to jump quickly to endgame but complain at the time it then takes to level up everything else that they feel they need, plus they don't want to have to repeat achievements which they've already done, so once one character has achieved something they want all the other characters to benefit automatically. Other players who are opposed to account-wide achievements aren't so concerned with endgame but want to progress all their characters individually through the game.
That was the point I was making, not that people are asking for insta-50s as such, they pretty much have that already. It's a quicker way of getting everything else that is the motivation for account-wide achievements and titles coupled with the desire not to repeat content they've already done - which conversely for many players is the whole point of having multiple characters.
Disagree with it being a common theme that powerlevelers are the majority of those who want account wide achieves.
Fail to see what leveling up all the other things they need (IE Fighters, Mages, Psijic guild etc etc) has to do with it. Players still have to complete tasks for skill unlocks. Have to level up skill lines. If you are imagining each account having all those guild lines unlock, all skill shards unlocked....that would be lunacy.
Some things just don't need repeating. Get killed by slaughterfish, kill 1000 skeletons, ghosts, zombies etcetcetc. Real game changers right there. /s
I said it's a common theme, you added the bit about powerlevelers being the majority.2 -
Thechuckage✭✭✭✭✭Thechuckage wrote: »Thechuckage wrote: »UGotBenched91 wrote: »I will never understand why people are against account-wide achievements. Why do you care if someone displays a title that they didn't get on that specific character? They still had to grind and work hard with a character to get that achievement.
A lot of this comes down to the fact that some players - perhaps predominantly from an action-based console background - believe everything is done by the player, while other players - perhaps predominantly from a RPG-based PC background - believe everything is done by the character. Another factor is that those who argue for account-wide achievements tend not to want to play their alts through normal progression but just have them instantly ready for "endgame", while those who argue for character-specific achievements want to play through the full game with their alts as equal characters.
Could you expound on the second half of that? Because I don't think anyone has asked for that. Or is asking for insta-50s.
This subject has been raised very many times, and a common theme is that people wanting account-wide achievements are levelling up alts to 50 in a few hours at e.g. dolmens in order to jump quickly to endgame but complain at the time it then takes to level up everything else that they feel they need, plus they don't want to have to repeat achievements which they've already done, so once one character has achieved something they want all the other characters to benefit automatically. Other players who are opposed to account-wide achievements aren't so concerned with endgame but want to progress all their characters individually through the game.
That was the point I was making, not that people are asking for insta-50s as such, they pretty much have that already. It's a quicker way of getting everything else that is the motivation for account-wide achievements and titles coupled with the desire not to repeat content they've already done - which conversely for many players is the whole point of having multiple characters.
Disagree with it being a common theme that powerlevelers are the majority of those who want account wide achieves.
Fail to see what leveling up all the other things they need (IE Fighters, Mages, Psijic guild etc etc) has to do with it. Players still have to complete tasks for skill unlocks. Have to level up skill lines. If you are imagining each account having all those guild lines unlock, all skill shards unlocked....that would be lunacy.
Some things just don't need repeating. Get killed by slaughterfish, kill 1000 skeletons, ghosts, zombies etcetcetc. Real game changers right there. /s
I said it's a common theme, you added the bit about powerlevelers being the majority.
And I quote "This subject has been raised very many times, and a common theme is that people wanting account-wide achievements are levelling up alts to 50 in a few hours at e.g. dolmens in order to jump quickly to endgame but complain at the time it then takes to level up everything else that they feel they need"
So taking an uncharitable reading of what you said its everyone who wants account wide. And are power levelers. People painting with large brushes then throwing stones...there has to be a couple more metaphors to shoehorn in there.4 -
Thechuckage✭✭✭✭✭Ceejengine wrote: »Thechuckage wrote: »Ishtarknows wrote: »ZaroktheImmortal wrote: »Gamingdays wrote: »Simply no. I worked hard to get true genius on my sorc and as much as a pain it was to get it I don’t want the achievement devalued by just being able to put it on any toon. I could make a new toon and it suddenly has the title. It would just simply devalue it.
I don't see how it'd devalue it myself as you still earned said title I wouldn't be against this personally because the player who has it clearly earned it on at least one of their toons.
Some titles have greater status depending on what role you achieved them. A stack DD earning Bringer of Light (vcr+3) has a much easier job than a tank earning the same title. Being able to use the title on your baby tank that's only tanked normal trials for example gives a false impression of player ability in the role.
What happens when the DD from your scenario decides to make that character into a tank, with zero tanking experience? Player has earned it on that character, but not role.
The player in question would look like they had bought a carry, or explain that they had just respec'd with the same end result of being removed from group.
I can guarantee you that if you earn any prestigious title as a DPS then swap to tank, you at a bare minimum know the movements and mechanics.
I've cleared hard stuff on my NB tank, then swapped to magblade DPS and had 0 struggle with doing it again.
Any player doing hard content knows their class like the back of their hand. You have to do research to get to that point to know what foods, attributes, enchants, how to maximize benefits from passives, etc, all things you need to succeed.
Not to mention outside of group content 99% of high quality players run hybrid builds anyway, so they're aware of their damage abilities, where to get mitigation, and what heals work best for what they're doing.
This idea that going from DPS -> Tank / heals or backwards is a whole new world is just out of left field. Like to get True Genius or CR+3 or vet HM BRF you need to know every single mech for every single boss + trash pull no matter what role you're in.
The only major hurdle to swapping from one to the other for anyone who remotely tryhards at ESO is farming primo / meta gear. Which to me, at least, is one of the most fun aspects of the game.
I agree with you and find the notion that the title does anything other than denote player skill is silly. Will a DK main be great on a necro, maybe. Regardless, if the player isn't up to the task they will get booted from the group.4 -
Kidgangster101✭✭✭✭✭
✭No why do we want to turn achievements into participation rewards?
How are they participation awards? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 You guys are crazy if you think a title is end all be all on anything.
Have you achieved maelstrom vet no death run? Me answering no wait let me get on MY toon that does....... Think of how that sounds.
ME AS THE PERSON gets said achievement, but ME AS THE PLAYER having to torture myself getting it on all my toons......... It literally makes no sense because I CONTROL my toons. My toons didn't earn it...... I EARNED THE TITLE.
When my toon solos it without me having to input anything then THEY EARNED THE TITLE.7 -
Oreyn_Bearclaw✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Don't know how many times I have posted this.
Step 1. Leave character achievement pages exactly how they are.
Step 2. Add an account wide achievement page that shows total progress (achievement points) of the account.
Step 3. Do not add titles to the account wide page so we dont have level 10 GOs and Flawless Conquerors running around.
Everyone wins. There is no downside. If you play a lot of alts, great, you dont feel like you are stuck on one toon. If you like all your characters to be treated separately, again, no issue because you still have your character page.
My playtime would quadruple overnight if they did this. I stopped chasing achievements long ago because they arent account wide.5 -
iksde✭✭✭✭Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »Step 3. Do not add titles to the account wide page so we dont have level 10 GOs and Flawless Conquerors running around.
while Im indifferent about titles this itself is asking for also locking skins, personalities, costumes, mounts etc, could be also dyes to be able to use only on character which earned them
why every time in topics like this titles are so big taboo but nobody is talking about already account wide rewards which I mentioned why nobody is talking here they would get this disabled on characters which didnt earn them2 -
TelvanniWizard✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »Don't know how many times I have posted this.
Step 1. Leave character achievement pages exactly how they are.
Step 2. Add an account wide achievement page that shows total progress (achievement points) of the account.
Step 3. Do not add titles to the account wide page so we dont have level 10 GOs and Flawless Conquerors running around.
Everyone wins. There is no downside. If you play a lot of alts, great, you dont feel like you are stuck on one toon. If you like all your characters to be treated separately, again, no issue because you still have your character page.
My playtime would quadruple overnight if they did this. I stopped chasing achievements long ago because they arent account wide.
Exactly this. They just have to add a new page in the Journal tab with the account achievements and it would be solved. No account wide unlocks, just a way to see global progress.1 -
Tandor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Thechuckage wrote: »Thechuckage wrote: »Thechuckage wrote: »UGotBenched91 wrote: »I will never understand why people are against account-wide achievements. Why do you care if someone displays a title that they didn't get on that specific character? They still had to grind and work hard with a character to get that achievement.
A lot of this comes down to the fact that some players - perhaps predominantly from an action-based console background - believe everything is done by the player, while other players - perhaps predominantly from a RPG-based PC background - believe everything is done by the character. Another factor is that those who argue for account-wide achievements tend not to want to play their alts through normal progression but just have them instantly ready for "endgame", while those who argue for character-specific achievements want to play through the full game with their alts as equal characters.
Could you expound on the second half of that? Because I don't think anyone has asked for that. Or is asking for insta-50s.
This subject has been raised very many times, and a common theme is that people wanting account-wide achievements are levelling up alts to 50 in a few hours at e.g. dolmens in order to jump quickly to endgame but complain at the time it then takes to level up everything else that they feel they need, plus they don't want to have to repeat achievements which they've already done, so once one character has achieved something they want all the other characters to benefit automatically. Other players who are opposed to account-wide achievements aren't so concerned with endgame but want to progress all their characters individually through the game.
That was the point I was making, not that people are asking for insta-50s as such, they pretty much have that already. It's a quicker way of getting everything else that is the motivation for account-wide achievements and titles coupled with the desire not to repeat content they've already done - which conversely for many players is the whole point of having multiple characters.
Disagree with it being a common theme that powerlevelers are the majority of those who want account wide achieves.
Fail to see what leveling up all the other things they need (IE Fighters, Mages, Psijic guild etc etc) has to do with it. Players still have to complete tasks for skill unlocks. Have to level up skill lines. If you are imagining each account having all those guild lines unlock, all skill shards unlocked....that would be lunacy.
Some things just don't need repeating. Get killed by slaughterfish, kill 1000 skeletons, ghosts, zombies etcetcetc. Real game changers right there. /s
I said it's a common theme, you added the bit about powerlevelers being the majority.
And I quote "This subject has been raised very many times, and a common theme is that people wanting account-wide achievements are levelling up alts to 50 in a few hours at e.g. dolmens in order to jump quickly to endgame but complain at the time it then takes to level up everything else that they feel they need"
So taking an uncharitable reading of what you said its everyone who wants account wide. And are power levelers. People painting with large brushes then throwing stones...there has to be a couple more metaphors to shoehorn in there.
To clarify, I'm not saying all those who argue for account-wide achievements are power-levellers or even most of them, just that people raise that issue as a common theme every time this topic comes up. Maybe I should have said "some" people, perhaps that would have avoided any misunderstanding.0 -
Sheezabeast✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It boggles my mind how people don't understand the principle of earning a title. You perform a feat on a character, you earn it for them. It is a time investment. A commitment to the achievement. What about that, entitles you, to having that freely given to all your other characters? You earn it on each character, it is an achievement, a title.....how entitled do you have to be to think because you earn it once on one character, that everyone else should just have it given to them? That is the epitome of 'everyone gets a trophy'.Grand Master Crafter, Beta baby who grew with the game. PC/NA. @Sheezabeast if you have crafting needs!3 -
ThreeXB✭✭✭✭Account wide achievements couldn't work unless everything was Account wide including skills, levels, crafting, pvp rank, guild lines, quest lines, skyshards ....everything has achievements tied to itEdited by ThreeXB on April 30, 2021 8:51PM1 -
achoo420✭✭✭Just another quick argumentative point I'd like to make. If they were to make account wide achievements and titles it would get rid of the annoyance of having to switch to the character that has the achievement to be able to buy achievement furnishings from vendors. Also the game is pretty much already based on account away making alternate characters worth playing more. Everything about the game is showing off what your account has accomplished or obtained through adventuring.3
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Tandor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Sheezabeast wrote: »It boggles my mind how people don't understand the principle of earning a title. You perform a feat on a character, you earn it for them. It is a time investment. A commitment to the achievement. What about that, entitles you, to having that freely given to all your other characters? You earn it on each character, it is an achievement, a title.....how entitled do you have to be to think because you earn it once on one character, that everyone else should just have it given to them? That is the epitome of 'everyone gets a trophy'.
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I think the reason for that is partly because we're responding to a specific argument relating to achievements and titles, and partly because we recognise that the status quo represents an acceptable compromise between those who'd like everything to be account-wide and those who'd prefer everything to be character-specific. It doesn't need to be all one way or the other, presumably that's why those wanting account-wide achievements and titles aren't arguing for e.g. quest xp to be account-wide too even if they believe that it's the player who completed the quest and not the character which is the logical extension of what some claim in respect of achievements and titles. There's a balance at the moment and while some want it shifted more towards the account-wide side of the argument others on the character-specific side are happy with leaving the balance where it is. That at least is my take on it, others may have other reasons.
It's also in my case nothing to do with being affected by what the player standing near me is up to, I'm not a competitive player and such comparisons are of no interest to me. For me it's also critically about the effect on my characters and the way I play them. They're all equal and individual and each one ploughs his own furrow in the game, I don't want them all lumped into one account-wide collection of achievements although I'm wholly in favour of having an account-wide summary of the achievements on the account and which character(s) earned them.Edited by Psiion on May 1, 2021 12:14AM3 -
iksde✭✭✭✭Sheezabeast wrote: »It boggles my mind how people don't understand the principle of earning a title. You perform a feat on a character, you earn it for them. It is a time investment. A commitment to the achievement. What about that, entitles you, to having that freely given to all your other characters? You earn it on each character, it is an achievement, a title.....how entitled do you have to be to think because you earn it once on one character, that everyone else should just have it given to them? That is the epitome of 'everyone gets a trophy'.
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I think the reason for that is partly because we're responding to a specific argument relating to achievements and titles, and partly because we recognise that the status quo represents an acceptable compromise between those who'd like everything to be account-wide and those who'd prefer everything to be character-specific. It doesn't need to be all one way or the other, presumably that's why those wanting account-wide achievements and titles aren't arguing for e.g. quest xp to be account-wide too even if they believe that it's the player who completed the quest and not the character which is the logical extension of what some claim in respect of achievements and titles. There's a balance at the moment and while some want it shifted more towards the account-wide side of the argument others on the character-specific side are happy with leaving the balance where it is. That at least is my take on it, others may have other reasons.
It's also in my case nothing to do with being affected by what the player standing near me is up to, I'm not a competitive player and such comparisons are of no interest to me. For me it's also critically about the effect on my characters and the way I play them. They're all equal and individual and each one ploughs his own furrow in the game, I don't want them all lumped into one account-wide collection of achievements although I'm wholly in favour of having an account-wide summary of the achievements on the account and which character(s) earned them.
as for titles as I really dont care to much like even for rest collectibles anyway...I see titles same way here as collectibles, if they was account wide then same as collectibles like skins, personalities etc you can just not use it until you get this as for sure with account wide achievs it would be, atleast should be with marker if you have done this ont his character or not
to your 2nd part I will reply with someones idea at start of this thread I have seen - and soulgem binding souls of characters you want - nice addition for people wanting account wide achievs while at once not forcing people who dont want it, just poeple who would want this could bind souls fo characters they want, sounds simple solution with at once also immersive someho as with binding souls with special soulgem for that, isnt it?Edited by Psiion on May 1, 2021 12:15AM2 -
Lord_Wrath✭✭✭✭✭I am for global achievements, except for crafting and notable combat achievements. Like pvp, dungeons, trials. The nitty gritty dumb zone achievements should be global.1300+ CP | Lørd Wrath | - Sorcerer - Palatine - Grand Master Crafter - 30000 Achievement Points
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skooma_dealer✭✭✭Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »Step 3. Do not add titles to the account wide page so we dont have level 10 GOs and Flawless Conquerors running around.
while Im indifferent about titles this itself is asking for also locking skins, personalities, costumes, mounts etc, could be also dyes to be able to use only on character which earned them
why every time in topics like this titles are so big taboo but nobody is talking about already account wide rewards which I mentioned why nobody is talking here they would get this disabled on characters which didnt earn them
I find it very funny, actually. They always ignore this point.
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Sheezabeast✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭skooma_dealer wrote: »Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »Step 3. Do not add titles to the account wide page so we dont have level 10 GOs and Flawless Conquerors running around.
while Im indifferent about titles this itself is asking for also locking skins, personalities, costumes, mounts etc, could be also dyes to be able to use only on character which earned them
why every time in topics like this titles are so big taboo but nobody is talking about already account wide rewards which I mentioned why nobody is talking here they would get this disabled on characters which didnt earn them
I find it very funny, actually. They always ignore this point.
Because there is a big difference between you, as a player, getting a reward for your account as a whole, to you, the player, and you, playing your character, getting a reward for your character, that you are playing. Your character and your entire account are two different things!!Grand Master Crafter, Beta baby who grew with the game. PC/NA. @Sheezabeast if you have crafting needs!1 -
Thechuckage✭✭✭✭✭Sheezabeast wrote: »It boggles my mind how people don't understand the principle of earning a title. You perform a feat on a character, you earn it for them. It is a time investment. A commitment to the achievement. What about that, entitles you, to having that freely given to all your other characters? You earn it on each character, it is an achievement, a title.....how entitled do you have to be to think because you earn it once on one character, that everyone else should just have it given to them? That is the epitome of 'everyone gets a trophy'.
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I think the reason for that is partly because we're responding to a specific argument relating to achievements and titles, and partly because we recognise that the status quo represents an acceptable compromise between those who'd like everything to be account-wide and those who'd prefer everything to be character-specific. It doesn't need to be all one way or the other, presumably that's why those wanting account-wide achievements and titles aren't arguing for e.g. quest xp to be account-wide too even if they believe that it's the player who completed the quest and not the character which is the logical extension of what some claim in respect of achievements and titles.
That last part right there, I think that is our (personal) sticking point. I haven't seen anyone asking for quest XP to be shared. That would be quite literally game breaking. Nor skyshards, dungeon clears or the XP from anything.
Just simply the recognition that you completed task (insert here) in the past. Instead of going thru on each individual alt and doing the same tasks again. Running thru the dungeons, stories is part of playing the game. I'm pretty sure majority of players DONT want to not play the game. And if they really want the unlocks for no work, there is the crown store.
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Thechuckage✭✭✭✭✭Account wide achievements couldn't work unless everything was Account wide including skills, levels, crafting, pvp rank, guild lines, quest lines, skyshards ....everything has achievements tied to it
Dyes, CP, costumes, mounts and mementos would all like a word with you. So no, they are not inextricably tied to one another.3 -
iksde✭✭✭✭Sheezabeast wrote: »skooma_dealer wrote: »Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »Step 3. Do not add titles to the account wide page so we dont have level 10 GOs and Flawless Conquerors running around.
while Im indifferent about titles this itself is asking for also locking skins, personalities, costumes, mounts etc, could be also dyes to be able to use only on character which earned them
why every time in topics like this titles are so big taboo but nobody is talking about already account wide rewards which I mentioned why nobody is talking here they would get this disabled on characters which didnt earn them
I find it very funny, actually. They always ignore this point.
Because there is a big difference between you, as a player, getting a reward for your account as a whole, to you, the player, and you, playing your character, getting a reward for your character, that you are playing. Your character and your entire account are two different things!!
and we all can say 1 character on which we have unlocked an skin or personality for vet dung challenge of nodeath, speedrun and hm is earned by this one character yes?
as if we have and speedrun on 1 characer, hm on another and on another one nodeath these dont stack and doesnt unlock this skin/personality on account, to get this unlocked you need all these chal;lenges to be done on 1 character, not split between characters so this mean this 1 character have earned this skin or orther collectible whcih got unlocked account wide for other character which didnt earn this
so no, after all all these account unlockables are no different that titles if looking from immersion side of view, your alts without achiev for these challenges didnt earn these collectibles and very possible they even never did a step into instance from which are these challenge rewards
you say it is bad to run with 1lvl characer with godslayer title and not immersive becasue this character didnt earn this right? then explain me how will you feel and what will you do to players you would meet who will be let say 10lvl or under, so not able to enter to veteran content and wear skin from an vet trial or vet dlc dung challenger achiev with personality from other vet dlc dung challenger, sitting on mount gained from earning god slayer title while wearing emperors regalia for becomming emperor in cyrodil - impossible for fres 10lvl or under characters and still able to wear along with having used ""Grand Overlord's Brass" dye on costume and weapon for gaining 49 pvp rank along with using Skyforge Smith Hammer for gaining Grand Master Crafter title
how much differen is hard earned title for vet endgame from all other collectibles from also hard vet endgame? to get all these collectibles you had to get firstly all sets of achievements on single character rather tha have split these achievies between few characters...like all nodeaths on 1 character, speedruns on other etc
you have same with many titles to earn, you have to get few achievements in order to get this title, sam as with collectibles, all need to be done on same single character in order to get these rewards3 -
Sheezabeast✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭^ I am going to say this with as much politeness and kindness as I can. Could someone in the OP's native language, please summarize what they are trying to convey in this post? I am struggling to understand what they are saying in it.Grand Master Crafter, Beta baby who grew with the game. PC/NA. @Sheezabeast if you have crafting needs!0 -
Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭maybe if they allowed ALL achievements AND Titles to be on all your characters, once you hit level 50.
i think thats sounds fair.
hopefully that would satisfy everyone, cause i really want this, and so do many others.
Edited by Gilvoth on May 1, 2021 10:35PM1 -
Psiion✭✭✭✭Greetings,
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n3fieu✭✭Sheezabeast wrote: »^ I am going to say this with as much politeness and kindness as I can. Could someone in the OP's native language, please summarize what they are trying to convey in this post? I am struggling to understand what they are saying in it.
Ask one of the other commenters in this 4 page discussion, apparently your the only one who didn’t get the memo.
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