UGotBenched91 wrote: »I will never understand why people are against account-wide achievements. Why do you care if someone displays a title that they didn't get on that specific character? They still had to grind and work hard with a character to get that achievement.
UGotBenched91 wrote: »I will never understand why people are against account-wide achievements. Why do you care if someone displays a title that they didn't get on that specific character? They still had to grind and work hard with a character to get that achievement.
tomofhyrule wrote: »
By the same token...
I mean is it really that hard? Hey thanks for spending X amount of hours grinding this tedious thing for this tedious title. Now do it 7 more times.
UGotBenched91 wrote: »I will never understand why people are against account-wide achievements. Why do you care if someone displays a title that they didn't get on that specific character? They still had to grind and work hard with a character to get that achievement.
Nirntrotter wrote: »Nirntrotter wrote: »Keep the rewards character bound, but an account wide achiev overview would be so, so helpful. Please ZOS release me from my DK prison
Your signature indicates you're on PC.
Kyoma's Global Achievements will do this.
I'm aware, but I would like an official version that includes the whole playersbase, even if anonymised by default. The fact that an addon developer could do it just reinforces that wish for me.
Sirona_Starr wrote: »So, I would hope all the people that are against account-wide achievements don't use account-wide cp, right? Otherwise, if you do, it's pretty hypocritical, to my way of thinking.
Sadly, there isn't much choice. It is impossible to separate the CP of the characters in the Champion System. If you have three glasses of water, and pour them into a bucket, you cannot separate the water back into the three glasses that they came from.
We can rally against changes we don't want before they become part of the game. Once they become part of the game, the time of rallying against them seems to be over. All that can be done is to rally against the next change on the same slippery slope.
UGotBenched91 wrote: »I will never understand why people are against account-wide achievements. Why do you care if someone displays a title that they didn't get on that specific character? They still had to grind and work hard with a character to get that achievement.
A lot of this comes down to the fact that some players - perhaps predominantly from an action-based console background - believe everything is done by the player, while other players - perhaps predominantly from a RPG-based PC background - believe everything is done by the character. Another factor is that those who argue for account-wide achievements tend not to want to play their alts through normal progression but just have them instantly ready for "endgame", while those who argue for character-specific achievements want to play through the full game with their alts as equal characters.
Sirona_Starr wrote: »Sirona_Starr wrote: »So, I would hope all the people that are against account-wide achievements don't use account-wide cp, right? Otherwise, if you do, it's pretty hypocritical, to my way of thinking.
Sadly, there isn't much choice. It is impossible to separate the CP of the characters in the Champion System. If you have three glasses of water, and pour them into a bucket, you cannot separate the water back into the three glasses that they came from.
We can rally against changes we don't want before they become part of the game. Once they become part of the game, the time of rallying against them seems to be over. All that can be done is to rally against the next change on the same slippery slope.
You don't have to assign CP to characters that haven't earned the cp. Just don't put the points in
Sirona_Starr wrote: »Sirona_Starr wrote: »So, I would hope all the people that are against account-wide achievements don't use account-wide cp, right? Otherwise, if you do, it's pretty hypocritical, to my way of thinking.
Sadly, there isn't much choice. It is impossible to separate the CP of the characters in the Champion System. If you have three glasses of water, and pour them into a bucket, you cannot separate the water back into the three glasses that they came from.
We can rally against changes we don't want before they become part of the game. Once they become part of the game, the time of rallying against them seems to be over. All that can be done is to rally against the next change on the same slippery slope.
You don't have to assign CP to characters that haven't earned the cp. Just don't put the points in
How do I know how many CP each character has earned so that I can put the correct number of points into the characters that have earned them?
Sirona_Starr wrote: »Sirona_Starr wrote: »So, I would hope all the people that are against account-wide achievements don't use account-wide cp, right? Otherwise, if you do, it's pretty hypocritical, to my way of thinking.
Sadly, there isn't much choice. It is impossible to separate the CP of the characters in the Champion System. If you have three glasses of water, and pour them into a bucket, you cannot separate the water back into the three glasses that they came from.
We can rally against changes we don't want before they become part of the game. Once they become part of the game, the time of rallying against them seems to be over. All that can be done is to rally against the next change on the same slippery slope.
You don't have to assign CP to characters that haven't earned the cp. Just don't put the points in
How do I know how many CP each character has earned so that I can put the correct number of points into the characters that have earned them?
Ringing_Nirnroot wrote: »I’d love to have godslayer on my crafter that gets killed by mudcrabs
No thank you. I play every alt as a separate character and like the current system as every alt has to work (hard) for their own achievements.
If we did get this, would want an account wide one and a character one.
I mean is it really that hard?
ZaroktheImmortal wrote: »Gamingdays wrote: »Simply no. I worked hard to get true genius on my sorc and as much as a pain it was to get it I don’t want the achievement devalued by just being able to put it on any toon. I could make a new toon and it suddenly has the title. It would just simply devalue it.
I don't see how it'd devalue it myself as you still earned said title I wouldn't be against this personally because the player who has it clearly earned it on at least one of their toons.
Ishtarknows wrote: »ZaroktheImmortal wrote: »Gamingdays wrote: »Simply no. I worked hard to get true genius on my sorc and as much as a pain it was to get it I don’t want the achievement devalued by just being able to put it on any toon. I could make a new toon and it suddenly has the title. It would just simply devalue it.
I don't see how it'd devalue it myself as you still earned said title I wouldn't be against this personally because the player who has it clearly earned it on at least one of their toons.
Some titles have greater status depending on what role you achieved them. A stack DD earning Bringer of Light (vcr+3) has a much easier job than a tank earning the same title. Being able to use the title on your baby tank that's only tanked normal trials for example gives a false impression of player ability in the role.
Thechuckage wrote: »UGotBenched91 wrote: »I will never understand why people are against account-wide achievements. Why do you care if someone displays a title that they didn't get on that specific character? They still had to grind and work hard with a character to get that achievement.
A lot of this comes down to the fact that some players - perhaps predominantly from an action-based console background - believe everything is done by the player, while other players - perhaps predominantly from a RPG-based PC background - believe everything is done by the character. Another factor is that those who argue for account-wide achievements tend not to want to play their alts through normal progression but just have them instantly ready for "endgame", while those who argue for character-specific achievements want to play through the full game with their alts as equal characters.
Could you expound on the second half of that? Because I don't think anyone has asked for that. Or is asking for insta-50s.