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Wood Elf/ Bosmer losing stealth passive, An open letter.

  • Tigerseye
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    i'm also annoyed at this change, for those of us who don't like playing beast races the wood elf was an attractive option, now it makes no difference if i'm a 9ft tall Nord or a 4ft tall Wood elf.

    One has to hope that this change was just to encourage players to make Khajiit for the update.

    I don't like being forced to do things.

    I tend to just wander off, eventually, if people try.
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    Wow this thread is huge! At this point ZOS is almost forced to do something with Bosmer racials. :)
  • Cundu_Ertur
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    There is brightest example such as Bioware. They were making best RPGs with Dragon Age:Origins and Mass Effect 2 as some pinnacle of art and success and then some smart-backside from EA decided to enforce coop in Mass Effect 3 and remade all game to be like Call of Duty.. results well-known -> Bioware is dead.

    I think what hurt ME3 the most was the dumbed down ending that didn't fit the rest of the story. Up until "Mr. Marauder Shields" it wasn't bad and seemed to be going to a satisfying conclusion. I think some exec somewhere was like, "derrrrrr, whutwhuzzat," so they dumbed it down way too much. I actually liked the co-op mode at times, but there were times where it did feel cash grabby. So long as you kept your wallet away most of the time it wasn't too bad. Even then they could have survived, until they handed off the IP to another bunch who had no clue what they were doing. Andromeda did more damage to Bioware than any other thing.
    Taking stealth away from the Bosmer is like taking magic away from the Altmer, making Nords allergic to mead, or making Orcs pretty.
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    There is brightest example such as Bioware. They were making best RPGs with Dragon Age:Origins and Mass Effect 2 as some pinnacle of art and success and then some smart-backside from EA decided to enforce coop in Mass Effect 3 and remade all game to be like Call of Duty.. results well-known -> Bioware is dead.

    I think what hurt ME3 the most was the dumbed down ending that didn't fit the rest of the story. Up until "Mr. Marauder Shields" it wasn't bad and seemed to be going to a satisfying conclusion. I think some exec somewhere was like, "derrrrrr, whutwhuzzat," so they dumbed it down way too much. I actually liked the co-op mode at times, but there were times where it did feel cash grabby. So long as you kept your wallet away most of the time it wasn't too bad. Even then they could have survived, until they handed off the IP to another bunch who had no clue what they were doing. Andromeda did more damage to Bioware than any other thing.

    Well, I agree that coop option was not bad, what is bad that overall game style was changed to "Space Marines". Of course we still have awesome characters in ME3 and I like majority of missions but after flawless ME1 and ME2 where all missions were in harmony and made sense, there were too much nonsense in ME3 story. Same nonsense as bosmer without stealth. Harmony and immersion are very fragile things. Several cracks in it and all the picture becomes murky.
    Andromeda actually not that bad game in last version of patch, especially comparing to what we have on the market now. It's huge and beautiful and there are a lot of great quests, though a lot of dumb quests too. But same can be said about ESO? ;)
  • Cundu_Ertur
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    Any relevant news from E3?
    Taking stealth away from the Bosmer is like taking magic away from the Altmer, making Nords allergic to mead, or making Orcs pretty.
  • MartiniDaniels
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    Any relevant news from E3?

    Nope. Cats and dragons. And more dragons! And even more dragons!
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    Any relevant news from E3?

    Not really. The next dlc is a dungeon dlc so I am not expecting race passive changes or a new stealth tree to be introduced.

    After that is a story dlc that was light on information about introducing any new gameplay elements. Although a dragon hunting group is being introduced (Origin of the emperor’s blades perhaps? I am not clear on their history.). The group would seem an unlikely candidate for a stealth tree introduction, but who knows.
    Edited by BlueRaven on June 10, 2019 4:32PM
  • thegreatme
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    Any relevant news from E3?

    Nope.

    So far no announcements of anything that seems related to any stealth trees or stealth-related DLC, or any acknowledgement about racial passives (not that I expected any). Just shiny cinematics and hype and "we increased server capacity for all the new players coming to ESO!" (meanwhile I'm lagging out the butt everywhere in Elswyer on my high end gaming pc :D )


    Elswyer honestly seems like a weird place for them to introduce some kind of stealth system all of a sudden when the Year of the Dragon is all about khajiit and dragons and charging headlong into a literal firefight. Not much point of stealth in that scenario, unless you just want to run away from all of that.


    Personally I wouldn't mind some future stealth DLC where you're helping Nocturnal or something, instead of trying to stop her from destroying the world or whatever other nonsense. It would make sense to introduce stealth along with Nocturnal content, maybe some start to the Nightingales or something since I don't believe they were part of the Thieves DLC? (didn't finish it yet but someone said there was nothing about Nightingales, probably because there's only a few at any given time).

    But I doubt that's going to happen any more than my much-desired Reachman-sided content some niche people have been asking for since before launch and told wasn't probably ever going to happen.
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    Give Bosmer their stealth back you cowards

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  • BlueRaven
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    Any relevant news from E3?

    Follow up, they have an article.

    https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/56433
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    BlueRaven wrote: »
    Any relevant news from E3?

    Follow up, they have an article.

    https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/56433

    I had watched the stream; my meaning was more if anyone had actually gone there and talked to someone like you had a few months back in Boston.

    Who else cringed every time the stream broke into the "Hey, we're gamers too and we appreciate your feedback" agitprop? LOL yeah, right. 76 pages and all we got is a box full of nothin'.

    edit to add: not to mention the several threads in PTS when the changes first showed up in PTS-land, and Character Mechanics before that when they were first previewed.

    I did not cringe as much as I did an eye roll.

    (I do not want to stray too much into other topics here but when they said how nice the fallout 76 community was and that they listened to the feedback, all I could think about were the wide reports of greifing and community cries for a pure PvE experience. Instead they keep making new PvP experiences and catering to that crowd. Is that a trend?)

    I was hoping to see an interview somewhere after the show about eso. I would love to see what they have planned for that dlc in the fall. (The news of a dungeon dlc this August was a bit of a disappointment to me really.) I keep having hope for some good news.
    Edited by BlueRaven on June 11, 2019 2:45PM
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